Who else hates Apple and VW ads?

<p>I never enjoyed it’s…“simplicized” gui…from it’s beginnings until now. Back then it was a 1 button mouse (what the **** was up with that ****, so useless), and you couldn’t customize system options as much.</p>

<p>But most of my beef lies in it’s lack of gaming capability, and the decision to use Intel chips was a good start, but not enough. Gaming = PC.</p>

<p>firewalker,</p>

<p>That’s great for YOU, but gaming is not the only use for a PC. </p>

<p>And the “simple” GUI is a joy to work with. Why should a UI be more complicated than it has to be? Just to satisfy some slashdotters’ cravings for nerdsmanship? Pfft. I bet I can do more with my Mac in terms of productivity than you’d think. Underneath the slick Aqua veneer lies a powerful OS that can do a lot more than most people realize.</p>

<p>Besides, with Aero, you’ll just be another Mac user, but running over BIOS. ;)</p>

<p>Besides, who says you can’t straddle the fence, and have a Wintel desktop and a Mac notebook? Believe me, it’s pretty nice in my less-than-rigid world.</p>

<p>“Just to satisfy some slashdotters’ cravings for nerdsmanship?”</p>

<p>Scoff all you want, Apple doesn’t fool me with their shameless “hipness” image promotion. You know how techies operate. We want the good stuff.</p>

<p>Notice how all the techies in the thread vouched for PC…there’s a reason behind that. lol.</p>

<p>firewalker,</p>

<p>First of all, I’m probably just as much a techie as you are…or even moreso. I was BBSing it up back in the days of Prodigy, discovering the overclocking capabilities of the old AMD K6s, and building desktops for profit probably long before you did.</p>

<p>And there are plenty of techies with street cred that enjoy Macs. </p>

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<p>Self-aggrandizing much? Sheesh.</p>

<p>They mustve gotten to you. What a shame :)</p>

<p>Either that or you somehow developed a sense of complacency.</p>

<p>firewalker,</p>

<p>You seem to be missing my point: I am comfortable in both worlds. I enjoy my MacBook Pro for different reasons than my Wintel.</p>

<p>Funny thing is, I’ve seen some way more personal attacks than those two feeble attempts at it. (#27+#28)…
Especially when you insinuated SOMETHING with, “Just to satisfy some slashdotters’ cravings for nerdsmanship?”</p>

<p>But yes, I understand your point.</p>

<p>firewalker,</p>

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<p>Alright :)</p>

<p>Now that that’s cleared…</p>

<p>I have complaints about Macs. No doubt. In fact, I think that it’s fair to complain about the gaming issue. However, for many of us who don’t have the time, money, or inclination to spend much time gaming on a PC (my XBox 360 handles most of those needs), the video performance issue is somewhat null.</p>

<p>But to say that Macs are just outright trash? I dunno…it reeks of “nyah nyah”-style silliness.</p>

<p>Actually, marketshare IS important when your looking for parts. Whenever my friends’ Macs have hardware problems, they have to go to an Apple store, let them order hardware, and have you a few days without a computer, or overnight hardware and call me to put it in.</p>

<p>With PCs, I can go to a local store, buy a piece of hardware, and pop it in in within a matter of 2 hours. </p>

<p>Now, the latter may not sound like a big deal for an ordinary home computer, but for a work computer or corporate server, that can make a world of difference (I still rememeber when my dad had to replace an international printing server at his job at TransUnion. If it had been 4+ hours without it, the other servers would have backlogged and had so much trouble). That’s one of the reasons why PCs still dominate corporate marketplace.</p>

<p>But, like I said, I like PCs more due to their variety (this can also be said to be a disadvantage, but still… I like it when I win in pricing wars).</p>

<p>Now, I like Mac OS X (not the versions before that, though). Anything before OS X was crap, sorry to say. Those OSes were HORRIBLY unstable. However, Apple made a good UNIX-based Mac OS, and I like it. I run OSX86 on my PC as well as Vista and Gentoo (I must say: I like Vista better than OSX, but Linux is STILL THE SUPREME).</p>

<p>And, I can’t believe you brought up BBSing, UCLAri. God, that takes me back… you used Prodigy, also? We also had Compuserve for a while. G’times.</p>

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<p>Prodigy FTW. </p>

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<p>Keep in mind that about 99% of people don’t want to bother with hardware. And let’s be honest here: all but a slim few have NO desire to open up and muck around in a notebook computer. Especially one under warranty.</p>

<p>Like I said, I run Wintel desktops all the time. And I build 'em, too. But for a notebook computer, I think a Mac is a fine solution. The only other brand I’d run is Lenovo.</p>

<p>And really, outside of the iMacs, it’s not that hard to find Mac hardware. No worse than finding a specific motherboard from a manufacturer you like, in my opinion. </p>

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<p>Agreed. But I’m not running a server. I’m running a notebook. </p>

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<p>I think, pound for pound, the MacBook vanilla offers tons of value if you add in the software, Apple support, etc. </p>

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<p>Depends. Some iterations were better than others relative to the options available. I’d take most previous Mac OSes over Windows 3.11 or even 95. Don’t even get me started on Me. Ugh.</p>

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<p>COUGH SLASHDOTTER COUGH. Oh, sorry, had nerd dust stuck in my throat. ;)</p>

<p>*scoffs ;)</p>

<p>errrrr PC Laptops explode only with those recalled sony batteries, where as macs… well are macs</p>

<p>not true. 2001 a sony laptop erupted in flames, the battery was still intact.</p>

<p>Those Mac ads kinda show the desperation that Apple has gotten themselves into with their line of personal computers. And it seems that they embarass the Mac users and only make Windows users more adamant against getting a Mac, so where’s the good?</p>

<p>Question, Where would Apple be today without the iPod?</p>

<p>Well, where would PC’s be without Bill Gates? Can’t argue what-ifs.</p>