Who said UVa engineering is not strong?

Colleges & Universities University of Virginia
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<p>Please see the below link.
<a href=“http://www.seas.virginia.edu/enews/enews_july06/tristatedeans.html[/url]”>http://www.seas.virginia.edu/enews/enews_july06/tristatedeans.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Now, that’s great to know - UVA’s, VCU’s and VA Tech’s(!) Engineering School Deans are all UVA grads.</p>

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<p>And hilarious to know.</p>

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<p>Yeah, I love what Dean Aylor said:</p>

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<p>OR does it mean that UVA Engineering grads lean towards academics and not ‘true’ engineering fields. People always say UVA Eng is more theoretical while VT is more hands on. True? When we were there for an Info Session, the AD COM rep was an Engineering alum and yet a few yrs lafter graduating, quit the Engineering job to return to UVA to be an Ad Com Officer. Just another way to ponder on this…no offense meant!</p>

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<p>I know plenty of people who have engineering jobs you graduated from UVA. UVA’s take on engineering gives its graduates to discover and invent new ways rather than just “train” them like Tech. I still say the VCU has an excellent BME program.</p>

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<p>i would definately think that UVa’s engineering grads for the most part arn’t actually P.E.'s.</p>

<p>engineering, like math, is a great major for learning and using logic. which works great in the business world.</p>

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Wonderful post!</p>

<p>UVA definitely teaches the application of theory, but I think students here see applications far beyond the bench for what they learn. </p>

<p>The [solar powered car](<a href=“http://www.uvasolarcar.com/”>http://www.uvasolarcar.com/&lt;/a&gt;) and [url=<a href=“http://www.ecomod.virginia.edu/]Eco-Mod[/url”>http://www.ecomod.virginia.edu/]Eco-Mod[/url</a>] projects show that we don’t have a strictly theory based education here.

I like have Stacey here. While I love talking about the engineering program, she can share her actual experiences with it.</p>

<p>Oh, and while she had a job in the field, her everyday job wasn’t as heavy on engineering as you’d think. This is something you tinkering types might want to think about…a lot of your time in the real world will be spent writing proposals and talking about the marketing, finance, and management of a project. Don’t shy away from business and communications classes if you are headed for engineering school!</p>

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<p>We do a lot of application of theory in the E-school. As I said before, we are not trained into learning the application but learning the theory to change and invent. If I was only learning theory, then I wouldn’t be here. Just in my first year, I worked on a robotics team, created a media player program, and did some integrated circuit analysis. Professors are doing research all the time in UVA. Volunteer to work with them and gain some knowledge and a little cash. </p>

<p>DeanJ brought up a good point about the real world in engineering. Engineering is a lot more than machines and numbers. It has a good portion of presentation The Science, Technology, and Society department is proof positive that engineers do need communication and presentation skills for the business. There is a reason why the most popular minor or major to double with engineering is economics and one third of Darden’s students are engineers.</p>

<p>I had a few friends in solar car. According to them, there weren’t many fond memories. I can’t remember why though…</p>

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I think this might be part of the reason SEAS has a business minor now (I think this is the first or second year for the program). I see that as a sign that our students don’t just want to be the cog in the wheel.</p>

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<p>jags, I think the electrical, chemical, civil, and mechanical engineers who took the PE exam would argue that they were, in fact, professional engineers. Now for the 100 or so systems engineers who graduate every year, then work will be more like a cross between engineering and business. </p>

<p>I can’t argue with the value of combining business skills with engineering–only profitable designs are worth considering. That having been said, there are many people who work on proposals (and rewrite proposals, and review proposals, and red-team proposals, and…) Not all of them are engineers. But, for the technical proposal–the estimate of what the company can do and how many man-hours it will take–one draws from the quantitative skills one learns in engineering school.</p>

<p>And, of course, there’s all that work you have to do after you actually get the contract. They don’t do much stress load calculations in economics class, for example. The bridge still has to stay up. People get real picky about that.</p>

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<p>i never said that all of uva’s engineering graduates weren’t p.e.'s. for all i know, every single uva engineering grad takes the pe exam and passes. my father took the p.e. exam and is a pe. but that doesn’t mean he practitioning engineer, he’s a lawyer.</p>

<p>I was simply making the observation that uva’s engineering school offers opportunities outside of being a p.e - and that uva’s less practical and more theoretical approach may facilitate that.</p>

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<p>You know, I looked carefully at the VCU website to see Dean Jamison’s Bio. Here’s what it says:</p>

<p>Professor Jamison received his BS in Engineering Mechanics and Ph.D. in Materials Engineering Science from Virginia Tech. After a post-doctoral fellowship at the University of Bath, England, he was Associate Professor of Mechanical Engineering at the U.S. Naval Academy. </p>

<p>Hmmm. How odd. Be careful before you claim “bragging rights” with your Tech brethren. (I may have saved everybody the price of a bar-bet!)</p>

<p>Okay, jags, peace. I agree that UVa’s e-school has a much less ‘vocational’ flavor. And, as an “engineer” not working as a professional engineer myself, I take your point. I’ve not seen the numbers, but I would guess that less than half the people with undergraduate degrees from engineering schools are working as professional engineers. Mostly that’s because opportunities abound for a technically-trained manager.</p>

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<p>A link: <a href=“http://www.mse.uiuc.edu/faculty/Jamison.html[/url]”>http://www.mse.uiuc.edu/faculty/Jamison.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Note that this is from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign–Dr. Jamison’s previous gig. It would not be the first time somebody confused Virginia’s two prominent universities. Or, it could be accurate. Tread lightly.</p>

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<p>You know, I just checked Hoosonline.com, UVA’s alumni database, and Russell Jamison is shown as having gotten his MS in Engineering from UVa in 1972.</p>

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<p>Hmmm. So, I’m guessing that he’s BOTH a candy mint and a breath mint. This doesn’t make the ‘trifecta’ news wrong, but it does weaken the evidence for the hypothesis that UVa’s engineering school provides something ‘special’ (not available elsewhere, like Tech).</p>

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<p>I don’t think any hypothesis was ever made that the leadership fostered at UVa is necessarily unique. What the article does say is…</p>

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<p>This is true by the fact that UVA’s, Tech’s, and VCU’s Engineering Deans are all UVa grads. Plus, there are many other UVa Engineering grads who have become leaders in numerous companies. For example, Gene Lockhart, who’s the former president of Mastercard, and Tim Koogle, who’s the former president of Yahoo are both UVa Engineering grads (and incidentally 1st year roommates).</p>

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<p>I don’t know if this was ever reported anywhere, but this summer, UVa won the Phase One System on Chip (SoC) Design Challenge. 2nd place was Harvard. I think this speaks well for UVa Engineering.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.src.org/SoC_contest/Default.asp?bhcp=1[/url]”>http://www.src.org/SoC_contest/Default.asp?bhcp=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;