<p>Roonil_Wazlib, you’ll find that even most fundamentalists believe in microevolution. It’s macroevolution that they have a problem with, and that’s not something encountered on a day to day basis, unless you’re an evolutionary biologist.</p>
<p>What scares me more is their major in biology education.</p>
<p>i have a friend there (well…my sister has a friend there).
apparently girls and guys aren’t allowed to walk on the same side of the street together.</p>
<p>Their major in biology education is probably aimed at getting more biology teachers for their elementary/middle/high schools - also, its not as if teachers have complete control over their classrooms (they run into some serious issues if they teach creationism in a public school)</p>
<p>apumic- Evolution and the creation of the earth play a huge roll in biology, since life forms today are a) still evolving and b)you need to understand where something came from in order to understand how it works fully. Evolution is not just a theory, but a fact. </p>
<p>unpolloloco- If they can’t teach creationism in a public school and all they have studied is creationism, it will greatly limit what they can teach in the classroom unless they work in a Christian private school. </p>
<p>The fact is, they teach young-earth creationism <a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_Creationism[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_Creationism</a>
You’d think that would limit what they can learn about history too, since humans have been around much longer than 6,000 years.</p>
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<p>WRONG! We learned about evolution at my Christian private school. In fact, if I remember correctly, we didn’t cover Creationism in advanced biology, but instead in Bible class.</p>
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<p>Leave your annoying hatred for liberals out of the discussion. Please, you just look foolish. Instead, let’s focus on how ridiculous this school is. The rules have already been presented, and the school mandates rules that would make someone think they are in the 1400s state of mind(and not far ahead technology wise since almost every use of it is banned). This school MANDATES a conservative lifestyle on its (mostly) brainwashed students, becuase of the obviousness that no one but a brainwashed person would willingly go there. These people are trying to separate themselves from the rest of the world and how it really is by banning anything they see as evil(naturally Abercrombie fits in this category). PLEASE. There is no reason to respect the idiocy that is Bob Jones University.</p>
<p>Vail- that even further proves my point, many Christian private schools do teach evolution but the few schools that do teach creationism tend to be Christian and private. They would have to find a school like Bob Jones to teach at.</p>
<p>Huey, I’m not so sure you’re in a position to disregard other people’s opinions as ridiculous after that joke of a post. </p>
<p>Not everyone believes the same things. I know people who willingly don’t watch movies with ratings over PG, have never said a curse word in their lives, and are even waiting to kiss until they’re married. It may seem weird to most people, but there are folks who choose lifestyles like the one these universities enforce.</p>
<p>Friends and I are considering road-tripping to Florida after graduation. If we do, Bob Jones University will be a stop - for a tour. xD</p>
<p>check out Pensacola Christian College…now, they make BJU look liberal</p>
<p>Katho, if someone wants to do that stupid crap, I’m not going to stop them. Please tell me why I should respect their decision and not mock it? Going to a college that treats you like a 3 year old is a STUPID thing to do…no matter how you want to spin it, it’s a stupid thing to do.</p>
<p>HueyFreeman, what gives you the right to mock anyone’s lifestyle or the decisions they make in life? I don’t agree with the rules the school has but like it has been said obviously there are people who do agree with them and it fits them perfect. No human is the same. If it’s one thing that bothers me is people who feel the need to mock other people because they choose to live differently. I’m even much of a religious person but I have many friends who are. And in fact I know a couple of people in my apartment building who are religious and they are some of the best people I know. They may not go to BJU but with the decisions they make they follow a very conservative way of living. And I see no problem with that. Am I to make fun of them because they live differently than I do? Just live and let live. If someone chooses to believe something or to live a certain way I’m in no position to judge them so long as they are not harming me or any other person. I don’t even see where respect comes into play in this.</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s stupid for them to live like that. The only problem I have with people living that sort of lifestyle is that a good number of them tend to be very judgmental of those who don’t. Other than that, I don’t care how they choose to entertain themselves or whatever.</p>
<p>I may chuckle about some of the rules, but I’m certainly not arrogant enough to believe that my lifestyle choices are the only ones not worth mocking.</p>
<p>if someone wants to go there, who are you all to judge whether it’s right or wrong?</p>
<p>This exact thread has happened like 50 times before on College Confidential, and the conversation has literally gone the same way every time. People laugh at the absurdity of what goes on at BJU, people with no sense of humor bash “liberal hypocrisy,” other people start saying, “Hey, if that’s how they want to live it’s their own life,” etc etc. To the people that get all offended at threads like this - why does this have to become a political issue? Why is it “liberal hypocrisy?” The fact that this institution and similar institutions (I’m thinking Patrick Henry in particular) essentially brainwash young people in the hopes of creating new generations worse than the current Falwells and Robertsons isn’t something to be derided? The fact that this is a place that restricts thought and opinion and had a BAN on interracial dating until 2000 (only lifted due to enormous political pressure after Bush spoke there during the 2000 campaign and it became a big controversy) isn’t worthy of contempt? The stated goal of these places is to overrun the country with people who think like them - who will destroy America’s place in the world by destroying science and will bring us 100 more Iraqs because that’s what they think a 2,000 year old book is telling them to do. I of course have my own unique views but overall I consider myself a strong liberal and am proud of it. You use the term in the way that the far right has popularized over the last 20 years - as some sort of a synonym for evil. Well, if it’s “evil” to oppose ideas that should be completely abhorrent to any modern person of the secular humanist tradition - or any other tradition anyone wants to consider themselves a part of that actually has any sort of regard for human rights, human, and ACTUAL human progress that we have only begun to achieve by casting off (in reality only beginning to very slightly cast off) ALL religion - then I’ll gladly consider myself “evil,” a “liberal hypocrite,” and any other divisive, politically useful words that you can throw at me.</p>
<p>As for BJU, they have a right to exist and do whatever they want, just like everyone else in this country, and “liberal hypocrites” (Vail’s word, though I welcome any conservatives, libertarians, and anyone else that doesn’t feel bound by some narrow politically affiliation and is also horrified by BJU, PCC and company) have a right to express their repugnance at a disgusting ideology. I have two words for BJU - “fantasy world.”</p>
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<p>Not necessarily. Evolution doesn’t even take up that much time in a high school biology class. And besides, if they precede all of their sentences with phrases like “evolutionary biologists teach” or “according to the theory of evolution”, they could teach the stuff to the children without ever having to admit that they themselves don’t believe it. </p>
<p>And whether or not you want to believe it, people can get what you would call “secular” jobs after graduating a Christian high school/university. Now, I know this might come as a shock to you, since you admitted yourself that you don’t like to deal with these types of people in life, but I guess you’ll have to live with it, now won’t you?</p>
<p>Thanks katho11 for defending me, I appreciate that.</p>
<p>Atleast Xanatos gets it.</p>
<p>It’s not about mocking their “lifestyle choices”. I don’t make fun of conservative people, because it’s not always ridiculous to me. However, Bob Jones University is a joke that deserves mocking. If a kid is stupid enough to want to be there, they deserve to be mocked. As for “living and let live”, is that not what I’m doing? I’m not going and protesting Bob Jones existence or at the school going around making fun of everyone, but in a thread that is making fun of a school some people just can’t handle it. If you want to respect idiocy go ahead, but I certainly won’t.</p>
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<p>And you forgot the last ingredient. Moonbats who come here and try to Cliffs Note the entire topic by appearing to remain “unbiased” at first before quickly degenerating into a liberal temper tantrum. That’s where you come in, Xanatos.</p>
<p>Lets be real. I bet Bob Jones is full of a whole bunch of undercover ho’s that are religious in public but have threesomes on the pews when no one is looking. I bet some people know this and that is why they go there.</p>
<p>THIS HAPPENEND TODAY. </p>
<h2><a href=“http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070404/NEWS01/704040420[/url]”>http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070404/NEWS01/704040420</a></h2>
<p>Three ticketed, released at BJU protest
Gay-rights group attempting to get on campus</p>
<p>By Ron Barnett
STAFF WRITER
<a href="mailto:rbarnett@greenvillenews.com">rbarnett@greenvillenews.com</a></p>
<h2>Three people arrested during a gay-rights demonstration at Bob Jones University this morning were ticketed and released, officials said.</h2>
<p>bob jones university response…typical bible back talk.
<a href=“http://greenvilleonline.com/assets/pdf/BS6855344.PDF[/url]”>http://greenvilleonline.com/assets/pdf/BS6855344.PDF</a></p>