<p>Comp sci? MIT and CMU</p>
<p>Just so you know the only Ivies that are good in engineering are (in order from good to not sucky)</p>
<ol>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
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<p>Like Collegeguy CMU is considered one of the best for CS.</p>
<p>Yes I agree with collegeguy and BoredTeenager</p>
<p>I chose UM over UCB. I loved both schools, but I really felt at home at UM. There is a totally different vibe in the midwest that is really hard to put into words. I loved it when I visited: the town, the students, the strong academics and undergraduate focus. I’m not saying that UCB is a bad school, it’s just not for me. For instance, when I asked a UofM student why I should come to the UofM they would point out how they love being on campus, the friends they made, the experience they’re having at UofM, etc. But, when I asked a UCB student why I should come to Berkeley they just rambled off rankings. “We’re #1 in this, #2 in that…” etc. Both schools are basically equal in terms of academics. When I visited both schools I didn’t make my final decision based on academics, although I felt like Ross was superior to Haas (I loved it!!), but rather, where I could see myself for four years. Where could I see myself succeeding socially as well as academically? (It’s still really hard to predict). I also wanted to get out of California. Change the pace of my life. Experience something new–out of my comfort zone. Isn’t that what college is supposed to be? A whole new experience… why not dramatically change the weather, the people, and the surroundings? I have the rest of my life to live in California–what’s 4to 5 years? I don’t even really like California, anyway. </p>
<p>My parents think I’m crazy. My siblings think I’m crazy. My relatives think I’m crazy. My friends and teachers think I’m crazy. Even at work: I was helping a customer who was wearing a UC - Berkeley t-shirt. I said, “Hey, Cal!”
And, he said, “oh, I went a few years ago. Are you going?”
I told him, “no, I turned them down for Michigan.”
And he said, “are you f’ng crazy?”</p>
<p>It’s funny. I don’t think anyone appreciates the UofM here in California (correct me if I’m wrong). I seriously don’t care, though. I’m so happy with my decision. I wouldn’t change it, because I’m going to the best school ever.</p>
<p>Here here, OHgiraffe!</p>
<p>For last few years, around 600-700 California kids in UMich undergraduate,so there are around 150-200 incomming freshmen from California each year,but the number might go up in the future, since UMich seems getting more popular in the East and the West.</p>
<p>Recent years, UMich has a yield rate around 45% from the admitted students
that is better the UCB and UCLA (aroend 41%). This shows UMich is doing a better job in the Cross-Admission battle to rival the top privates and ives.</p>
<p>All of the following sounds very good to talk about so why not talk about but it is not easy and seems more like a dream:::</p>
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<p>My Daughter’s top most choice presently is Yale (GO figure)
She would love to go to (Harvard/MIT).
My personal choices are (MIT/Stanford).
I’m convincing her to apply to Olin too, I liked the program.
CIT/Princeton are more for prestigious point only. I don’t think she is a fan of either of the two but may go.
She will apply for PMLE at Brown.</p>
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<p>Coming to Reality:::</p>
<p>U.Penn has a good record of accepting students from her school (> 10%) and it has overall very good academics.
She likes Columbia and will apply for Comp. Engineering there.
She will apply to CMU/UC-B for Engineering.
She may apply to Cornell as it is an IVY but even Ivy status won’t be sufficient to apply to Dartmouth.
She will apply to USC, UCLA, UCSD.
She will cover herself with UCSB, UCI, UCD.</p>
<p>Aren’t you the same parent who said that you wouldn’t pay for UChicago if your child also got into Harvard but preferred Chicago?</p>
<p>1) bcos its much easier for undergrads to get into than Cal or UCLA. 2) Ross is easier to get into than is Haas. 3) UMich offers a big time college experience (i.e., sports) that the lower UCs cannot match. 4) , Ann Arbor is a wonderful college town and offers a better college town feel than any lower UC (assuming one likes cold weather).</p>
<p>Are you telling me that you would prefer to send your daughter to an Ivy that she hates instead of a school like UMich that she loves? Puts a new meaning to defying logic. And why do you insist on rankings? Schools manipulate their rankings in order to move up. Even the publication itself changes its formula to make sure that one of HYP is always on top.</p>
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Where do I begin? </p>
<p>“My personal choices”, “I liked the program” : Who’s applying to college? You? Wait, you’re not. Your daughter is. The actual person who will spend 4 years of her life there.</p>
<p>I’m sorry if I come off a bit rude, but you need to realize that Big Prestige School is not the be-all and end-all of colleges worth attending. It’s fine if her dream school is Yale, but don’t force her to apply to a college just because you like it.</p>
<p>bbayou,</p>
<p>Ross is NOT easier to get in than Haas. The 2006-2007 cycle, Hass accepts 270 student out of 454 applications.The acceptance rate is around 60% that is higher than Ross( 45-50%).
Also, This year, Ross Pre-Admission only accept 100ish students out of 2300 applications that is only 5-6% acceptance rate. The Ross 3-year program is expected to have a acceptance rate around 30% ( 280 accepted out of 900-1000 applications).</p>
<p>All I have to say is that I’m really glad my parents weren’t like you when it came to picking schools…</p>
<p>wow ParentofIvy, there’s way more to this whole process than rankings, way more. Both schools are solid academically, so it’s more a matter of where you would rather be for the next four years.</p>
<p>Well, sometimes parents have alright ideas as much as I try to deny it myself.</p>
<p>Some of the colleges I applied to were specifically picked by my father and I was entirely against applying to them (but I didn’t do a poor job on applications because I didn’t want to waste his money) and even had some arguments with him about them. But it turns out they were pretty nice schools for me, and I just never considered them because I didn’t bother to research some of the more specific details of their programs.</p>
<p>It’s nice that I’m getting to go to my first choice, but had I not gotten into Penn, I would have been very happy to attend one of the schools he picked that I would have never applied to had he not suggested it/forced it upon me.</p>
<p>I know it seems scary to have parents who push college choices and other stuff upon their kids, but I’m sure ParentofIvyHope’s daughter is long used to it and has found coping methods.</p>
<p>I know there have been times when I’ve been incredibly frustrated with my father, but I know he’s just trying to do what he thinks is best for my future and loves me in the end 
wow, I’m a sap.</p>
<p>The original topic never got offtopic. You were the one that stated that Brown > U-M and UCB in every aspect except R&D. I disagreed and gave you numbers on why, and I used U-M specifically because I go to that school and I know details about it like largest alumni base.</p>
<p>In any case, why? As a parent, wouldn’t you want your kids to have the best education possible? The top schools in California public school system (UCB, UCLA are the current ones that come to mind, sorry if I left any out) are very comparable to U-M. Not only does U-M have top programs in most of it’s programs, it also sports a great college town, and one of the best sports experiences a student could have.</p>
<p>Hell, some Californians even love the weather in Michigan. Who knows why they chose Michigan when they could’ve gone to UCB, or UCLA, it’s all their personal preference. Some people actually fit better at Michigan rather than Berkeley or UCLA. </p>
<p>The fact that you use rankings as an end all means to determine which school is better, is just sad.</p>
<p>I find it funny that the OP thinks UCI is an easy admit…sheer numbers make it a crap shoot</p>
<p>As for majoring and only picking schools because of one program, you better like enginerering cause if you don’t and change majors, you better like that school</p>
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<p>That’s just pathetic.</p>
<p>You guys don’t think this is a ■■■■■?</p>
<p>■■■■■■ don’t usually stick around for 200+ posts. i honestly think this is an overbearing parent living vicariously through their child.</p>
<p>I’ve never seen such a prestige-driven parent. I hope your daughter ends up at a school she really wants to attend.</p>