<p>ParentOfIvyHope is nuts. I would not listen to my parents at all if they were like that. It’s ridiculous for you to be even starting this thread.</p>
<p>You listed around 25 schools. No kid can apply to that many without messing up her life.</p>
<p>Linkinpark it’s called a generation gap, and every parents wants the best for their kids, especially if they had it hard in their life.</p>
<p>… where she meets the man of her dreams who drives her on the back of his Harley-Davidson down the open road to freedom… LOL</p>
<p>I know so many great kids like your D, with heavy handed parents. Seriously, If you love your D, you should agree to pay for anything and just trust her to make a good decision. Roll the dice. I’ll bet that you’d be proud to know that she could function just fine without your heavy hand.</p>
<p>I agree with Cards4life</p>
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<p>Of all the crazy things the OP has said that you could criticize him for, you choose the one where he is actually right? For a student with a legitimate shot at the other schools the OP is talking about, UCI is a definite admit. In fact, for some top California students, even Berkeley can be considered a safety.</p>
<p>No its not a definate admit, I know, I have talked to the kids rejected, reality sometimes gets in the way of wishful thinking</p>
<p>And anyone considering Berkeley a safety is nuts…with the number of applications skyrocketing, and only so many slots, you will have people with the right stats not accepted</p>
<p>ParentofIvyHope, are you serious? There are so many excellent schools in the world that are not in the Ivy League. Let your daughter decide for herself which one is perfect FOR HER! Don’t narrow her world to conform to what some magazine says is a quality education. Let her think for herself. It’s a shame that a group of high school and college students have responded to this thread with so much more wisdom. I have several friends who attended Ivy League schools they’d spent so long dreaming about (or being pressured into by their parents) only to discover that they hated everything about the school. On the other hand, I have friends at schools no one has ever heard of who are getting incredible educations and having a great time to boot. One last note, the Ivy League, though prestigious, is actually just a group of colleges with historical connections. They are not necessarily the best in the world.</p>
<p>Your daughter is the person spending four years at this school, not you, so give her some space to make her own decisions. She’ll get it right, she’s obviously not stupid.</p>
<p>My mother pretty much gave me carte blanche on my college applications and I turned out just fine… no, I turned out better than fine. I turned out well. And just so you know, an Ivy league education is really just a matter of prestige, because you can get a great education at schools like Duke or University of Michigan(which is a great school) or any of those other schools that just don’t have the Ivy league tag but provide a quality education. (There are plenty of schools like that.)</p>
<p>Your name is “ParentOfIvyHope”…</p>
<p>Do you seriously need to ask this question? The answer is obvious. Look at how many posts you have and look at your username…The reason is: because she WANTS TO GET AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE FROM YOU! You seem like the most intense parent. Stop living vicariously. You need help. Who blames her? Get a life of your own. Why would anyone want to live in the same state as somebody so competitive and intense as yourself. The amount of time you spend on this site is pathetic…your daughter should be spending time on here if anything, not her parents. That just shows how insane you are.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, please learn to speak English before you post. My guess is you did not go to college (based on your very poor grammar) so you are trying to live through your daughter…wow…that is sad.</p>
<p>Guys no need for personal insults.</p>
<p>Here’s a shocker: Not everyone’s first language is English!</p>
<p>ParentOfIvyHopeful, Please let your daughter decide which colleges that she likes and then “suggest” the ones you like from them.</p>
<p>ibdad:</p>
<p>don’t confuse applicant pools for the two B-schools. Ross accepts kids right out of HS or frosh year, but Haas does not. The prereqs for Haas are typical weeder courses with brutal curves at Cal – competition in this state is nothing like it is in the midwest (sorry).</p>
<p>cgm:</p>
<p>for the top 50 public schools in the state, Cal and UCLA are safeties for the top 10 kids in each class, assuming that they can write a decent essay.</p>
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<p>cgm, I guarantee that I know far more people who have applied to UCI and/or Berkeley in the past few years than you do, and I can also tell you that UCI is certainly a definite admit for many students. In my high school graduating class (2006), something like 200 of the 550 graduates were accepted to UCI. Do you really think it wasn’t a sure thing for the top 50 or so students (if not more) in my class? According to UCI’s own stats, 93.9% of ELC students are admitted. Now, if someone is ELC and has test scores at levels high enough for UCI, I would call that person a guaranteed admit.</p>
<p>As for Berkeley, my high school had around 60 members of my graduating class accepted. Numbers like that are consistent over the years (it may be as low as 40 occasionally). For the top 10-15 students in a graduating class at my high school, assuming SAT scores are up to snuff, Berkeley is a sure thing.</p>
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bluebayou has it about right.</p>
<p>Blue–Michigan has the same types of weeder classes with similar difficulty. The freshmen admitted are a very select few as was already posted. There is no substantive difference.</p>
<p>what are weeder classes?</p>
<p>If you are a California resident, it makes little sense to pay almost $30,000 tuition to go to U Michigan vs. the $7,000 at a UC. Michigan is a good school, but not better than Cal or UCLA. Unless your daughter wants a liberal arts college experience, which offers a very different kind of education, there is no reason to apply to so many colleges – you have much too much overlap in big research universities. Your daughter will go nuts applying to so many schools.
You are also overvaluing the Ivy League schools – why pay $50,000 for virtually the same experience and prestige (Cal is plenty prestigious for any medical school)? But if you think it is worth the price, how about limiting the applications to the top Ivy League schools and 4 UC’s – Cal, UCLA, Davis, San Diego. If she is a top student, she need not apply to any more of the UC’s than that (you could add UCSB as a backup).</p>
<p>Calculus, Microecon.</p>
<p>Michigan is a pretty different experience from UCLA or UCB. Is it worth it–depends on what $30k/yr means to you.</p>
<p>bbayou,</p>
<p>I am a California parent. My S is a Ross jonior now. He is in the last calss of the Ross 2-year BBA Program (same as the Haas system). He went tru the similar curved weeder classes too. He has several UC-Berkeley friends right out of high school. Some of them are Haas students. So, we have pretty good idea about both B-Shools.</p>
<p>Accurately, Ross classes might be a little more intense than Haas. I have heard that the Ross students have " the longest study hours" per week among the top B-schools.</p>
<p>This is by far the stupidest thread of all time. I don’t even understand why you (the OP) cares what schools a California resident applies to.</p>