<p>Some white guys are scared to date black girls because of what their families will think. Seriously more white guys like black girls than what you think, but they just don’t want to be judged by society.</p>
<p>Well I’m not saying male dominance is the only factor, I just feel that it is the main one. You are right when you say that black women won’t put up with the type of crap that caucasian women would.</p>
<p>In response to Usagi: Black women in today’s world do better academically than black men. Because they are doing better in school, they have access to more and better opportunities than black men. For example in NY, 1 in 3 black men are unemployed, whereas the female number is much smaller. </p>
<p>There are women in this world that are humble, that do not boast about their achievements. Some of these women end up being successful. Because we live in a society dominated by men, there happens to be many situations where women are forced to be aggressive. Like I said, in my response, the media is to blame for how black women are portrayed.</p>
<p>It is true that in many black families, black fathers are absent. There was a recent study done to figure out why black males do poorly in school as opposed to black females. When a female is the head of the household (Father is absent), boys on average will skip school more frequently, get suspended more often, and perform below average on mathematical and verbal reasoning tests. Girls don’t show a significant drop in academic performance.</p>
<p>Many black males will not be on the same “level” as black females. For example my mother is a doctor, and my father is a clerk in NY. My dad is always criticized because he makes less money and my mother is more intelligent. My mother in fact is the head of the household and my father has taken second place. My dad hates being in second place. He has no influence over the family whatsoever. I think that it is hard for black females to marry black men because on average, black females achieve more than black men.</p>
<p>You know, i read debates about this topic all the time on the internet, and i think both sides have interesting and reasonable points. But, this argument will probably never be settled in the black community because it is such a complex issue, everyone has their own experience with it which is why there are like a million+ different opinions about this. But i think that at the end of the day it just comes down to the fact that as my mom likes to say “ultimately kings will recognize queens and vice versa.” If you’re a black woman and you think you’re that great of a catch, then the man you’re worthy of will eventually find you and he might not be black. If you’re a successful black man who wants a good relationship then that relationship you’ve been waiting for will eventually happen, it may not happen when you want it to, but it will sooner or later… </p>
<p>I’m not even gonna lie to you guys lol, I used to have a mild crush on Tiger and I HATED that he clearly isn’t attracted to black women. But I got over it, he’s not the only successful black man out there, and his affairs with women shouldn’t be indicative of the state of black relationships in America. Plus, as someone before pointed out, he’s more Asian than black lmao…</p>
<p>I have a question, how come whenever a man is 50% (or less than 50% in Tiger’s case) do black people consider him black. TIGER WOODS AND BARRACK OBAMA ARE NOT BLACK. Tiger Woods is less than 50% black and Barrack Obama is 50% and was raised by white people in Hawaii.</p>
<p>I watched some clip on youtube that discussed why many black women weren’t married. In summary, it said that they often earn more than black men and don’t want to marry someone who earns less, and that a sizable portion of the black male population is in jail.
Of course, there’s no reason to not branch out and date people of different races.
Black women aren’t unattractive by any means!</p>
<p>Well, both Tiger and the president would have been slaves, so therefore, they’re black. that’s how i think of it anyway. you can’t think of race in terms of percents. all four of my grandparents had black mothers and white fathers, but it would be stupid to think of myself as 50% black. neither my parents or i even think of ourselves as mixed.</p>
<p>Broncosfan212: I’m a biracial female and I consider myself black. I call myself either black or biracial. Even though I was raised mostly by my white family, I still identify with my black side more. First and most obvious, I barely look like I have any white in me. Second, I fit in better there. I’m not sticking out as a black sheep (I did that on purpose) like I would with white people. it’s just preference. I’m not denying my white side, it’s just simpler.</p>
<p>Anyways, i agree with Entertainer on male dominance. i’ve been broken up with because I do my own thing and i don’t take their bs. It’s like my potential scares them away. But I’ve only dated hoodrats, so that’s probably the problem.</p>
<p>@ sgtpepper08: You think biracial identity is stupid, and came up with that idea based on how people would have been classified two hundred years ago? Wow.</p>
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I’ve always wondered this question myself. It puzzled me that people considered Obama as just black, even though he is a)just as white as he is black, and b) he was raised by a white mother, and his father was basically non-existent in his life. Anyway, if you look like you’re black or have any African ancestry then people will consider you as black. It’s the [one-drop</a> rule](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule]one-drop”>One-drop rule - Wikipedia).</p>
<p>True, harambee. I remember an article not too long ago that talked about how Tiger Woods doesn’t claim his AA side and how he hasn’t done anything to help young AA males in golf. But the town I live, personally, the Caucasian males say things that are soooo racist that I feel like I am in the 60s at times :-/. I just hope that when I go to college, the men will be more liberal thinking in terms of dating.</p>
<p>HAHAHAHA @JadoreKelsey at the hoodrats line haha. </p>
<p>I mean…I see it this way black men+success= get a white or european woman, just not a black one (not ALL the time but a lot of the time)</p>
<p>for example, my cousin (just turned 18 in nov.) is around my age. he doesn’t work hard in school at all, just enough to stay on the basketball team. he averages 30+ points a game and is all over the school newspaper. he has a white gf because she’s, in short, one of his many groupies. is he faithful? not at all. why? HE’S AN ATHLETE THAT TRAVELS AND HAS GIRLS FIGHTING OVER HIM. girls fight over him all the time. they almost tried to start drama with me until they found out he was my cousin. the moral is…he went from going after black chicks (when he was still building up his game) to waiting for girls (who tend to not be black) to flock to him (after he “established” himself as an all-star or w/e you wanna call it).</p>
<p>sgtpepper, yeah, I agree with Entertainer. It is the one-drop rule. If you’ve got a luittle black in you-then you are black.
Also, tragic mulatto stories didn’t help. The heroine is very light-colored,almost white and tries to fit into white society;however, she is always rejected b/c one a black person, always a black person.</p>
<p>You know what made me laugh?
I was at this speech tournament and a French guy was giving a speech about his roots.
This guy,btw, is like white like superbread.
TThen he suddenoly comes out of the blue and is like. “I’m also Algerian- so I’m African too.” I was like okay,white-boy. But, I was irritated because I couldn’t say oh, i’m white and get a laugh out of it-only uncomfortable silence. I hated that.</p>
<p>I really feel the need to address the success = white women. This is my perspective as a black male, soon to attend college in his senior year of high school. I would like to state I am definitely not denying it. I can sort of relate in a sense. As far as SOME blacks go, it’s definitely not ‘cool’ to be smart. Alot of black girls go to my school, to which me and most of my friends (black and white) agree are not attractive. However, once again there are some just not many. Some of these girls are my friends. The types of guys they have dated all fit the “tough guy, thug” sterotype or are athletes. All of their boyfriends were older than them. (I also wanna say that I have talked to them and have all said that I’m cute, but not their type)</p>
<p>Being that these are pretty much the only intelligent black women I personally know (rigorous coursework, ap classes, going to college) I sorta thought if i wanted the same type of girl, I thought I’m screwed. Given that I’m the only black male in ap classes at my school (at least in my grade), there are honestly only 2 others in a school of around 2,000 which is sad in itself. So the (black) girls that don’t like me because I’m a nerd or whatever will probably be mad at me for dating a white girl, which I have already because they rejected me. So, for me personally it (the whole success= get a white girl) makes sense. I mean think when Tiger was younger, how many black girls were like “that’s cool that you like tennis!” lol.</p>
<p>P.S. When one of my relatives came over for easter break, and I told her I couldn’t go to breakfast because of a practice ACT (and I was politely helping her carry something to her car) she asks me immediately “You have a white girlfriend dont you?” No lie. </p>
<p>P.P.S. Please don’t attack me for my point view. I’m just offering a thought, but you can ask me more questions if I didn’t make anything clear enough.</p>
<p>^^^no attacks from this corner, your reasoning makes sense. </p>
<p>the black girls in my school are the same way. but i know a lot of young black men in schools like that who become discouraged from dating black women in general, that i don’t agree with. just because there are black girls in your school who are not attracted to the “smart” black guy, doesn’t mean that all of us are this way. my own boyfriend (who is extremely smart lol definitely not the “tough guy” stereotype) never dated black women before because he thought we were all mean and that those of us who were smart only dated thugs anyway. but then he met me lol.</p>
<p>its so easy to believe that the whole entire world is one way when that’s all you see in your immediate surroundings. in my school all the black men fit the thug stereotype (not that they arent smart, they definitely are, they just refuse to try lol). it would be so easy for me to take that and then assume that all black men are that way, but i refuse to believe that, plus being on this board makes it impossible for me to buy into that nonsense…,</p>
<p>I just want to offer a possible explanation for why high achieving black students are not getting involved with each other.
Like many of you, I spent high school being one of three or fewer black students in all of my classes, due to the fact that I only took honors courses. I was the only NASF; I spent a lot of time participating in debate, an activity frequented by Asians at my high school. However, because of debate, I was able to meet other high achieving black students nearly every weekend. And of course every one of the black students at my university is ambitious and intelligent. So why do I still have a strong preference for Asian men (besides the fact that I like their features)? And why does the black community at my school often not interact with each other romantically (other than a core group of students form areas with a strong black presence)?
I think it’s a combination of two factors: I personally felt disconnected from the black community in my high school because I was never really around them and was different, and 2) I always felt, upon entering honors classes, that I had to prove myself to the other students (who were mostly Asian and for whom this sort of education was an ingrained part of the culture.) This combines to form this kind of weird self hate- you find yourself identifying with and admiring the community you’re around, while feeling disconnected and even a little rejected from your own race community. You don’t want to feel limited by your race so you sort of abandon it (well, that’s a really strong word, but it gets the point across.) I have spoken to other black students at my university and they admitted that they felt it was the same for them; you’re conditioned into feeling more attracted to what you identify with/admire, so when you “get” that white guy or the Asian male, it’s almost this achievement. Like, “I’m on your level.” And even when you get to college and all you meet are other blacks on your level, it’s really hard to break the habit (although it’s gotten much better. But my preference is still pretty “There.”)
So, that’s my 2 cents. J Feel free to attack, but it’s just an idea.</p>
<p>Well as a black female, I’m just gonna put it out there. I’m not “ghetto” or bold enough to put bright blonde, lime green, white, or even firecracker red weave in my hair (1. half the girls that do don’t look right with it 2. it’s not even cute 3. I have real hair…). I date guys based off of their ambitions (if selling drugs is what you wanna do for the next 5 years, you’re off my list…and I’ve been there), their personalities, their looks (I’m not shallow, but I have to be at least attracted to you), their religious views (very important, Christianity is a big part of me so yeah), and their views on relationships (you can’t be with me and 5 other girls and expect me to be a sucker. Just sayin). </p>
<p>The girls at my school…well, I’ll just give you a quote from one of them: “N*ggas was made for sex.” There’s this poster in my school that says 101 reasons not to have sex. They saw it and responded: “101 reasons NOT to have sex. That’s stupid. Sex is fun.” </p>
<p>This is the basis of what these girls want…so I can understand why some…no MOST guys shy away from us.</p>
<p>^^My question to you, the.pfenix, and to anyone else to whom this would apply is: Are these people of different races as open to interracial dating as we women may be? I always see black men with people of different races, but I don’t find it as common (as with black men) to see black women interracially dating.</p>
<p>@ bellanaija: I totally agree. It’s just so far that’s how all the black women I find attractive appear to be. But I’ll find someone that fits me. Eventually…</p>
<p>@ the.pfenix: I can see where you’re coming from and I’m there. (just not in college) I think I’ve met 2 black girls that like rock music, which I actually happen to like. I listen to just about all good rap, and some rock. But according to some black people, that’s not cool so… I’m back where I started. It’s all good though!</p>
<p>and Beautifulnerd… I think when you combine looks and personalities (including intelligence) alot of people get crossed of the list don’t they? That’s how it works for me…</p>
<p>It’s really sad. I think that high achieving black guys feel threatened by high achieving black females. There are only 2 black guys in our school’s IB senior class. I’m cool with them both and even mutually liked one of them freshman year, but I’m already in a relationship with someone (he’s not in IB but he’s still smart and ambitious). One of them doesn’t really date anyone (and if he did, she would be a black girl and he makes that known), and the other is an athlete and loves all kinds of girls (black girls being his number one choice…he says it all the time lol).</p>
<p>@ohsnapitskira- I’m open to IR dating…I’ve dated a Somalian, White/Mexican guy, Mexican guy, White guy, and Black guys. My boyfriend is Black. Lol I don’t care about race, I care about that face.</p>