Why didn't tiger woods marry a black woman? or the problem of black women.

<p>@Beautifulnerd219, do you find that they generally feel the same way as you do about race?</p>

<p>Yeah they seem to. Well, wait no. My ex who is white has never dated a white girl. He only likes black girls. But other than him, they all seem not to mind. My boyfriend now…I don’t know about that one. I should ask him. Good question.</p>

<p>Given the way black girls imply the existence of my non existent ‘white girlfriend’ and the way the black girls who are my friend tease about marrying a white girl I tihnk they seem a bit jealous. Just wanna offer my opinoin again.</p>

<p>Mouse, look as a black female - I just want to tell you that those black girls are crazy -kay. There are a lot of us out there(like me) who would absolutely love to have a black man who one can argue and debate with. I love to argue with people about different issues. Naturally, who you date is your choice but I just want to tell you that just b/c some black women are “crazy” (rolls eyes) doesn’t mean we are all like that. And if its worth anything,I’m sorry. I would date you (however, I’d have to know you first :)</p>

<p>ohsnapitskira: I’m open to IR dating… but I’m picky. I LOVE Asians, most of my friends are Asian. I honestly can’t see myself with a white guy but I’m not against dating one. My goal is to find a half black half Indian or Bengali man and have babies with him.</p>

<p>Just kidding. Kinda. </p>

<p>My past boyfriends never cared about it. They never paid any mind to it. And they either are dating or had dated someone outside their race.</p>

<p>@JadoreKelsey: wow, you sound exactly like me! </p>

<p>@ohsnapitskira: Even before I developed any preferences I’d been open to interracial; however, I’ve found that guys (particularly asian guys) tend not to go for black females (at least, not usually me?), in my experience. I always have to be a little bit more agressive or forward than I’m comfortable with (I’m a traditionalist, so I seriously <em>hate</em> this.) It is much easier for me to get white and hispanic men than asians, though even that takes a little more work than my asian female friends usually have to put in. So if you’re into those two, you’re in better shape than I am as far as I can see.</p>

<p>Oh yeah…
@mouse: Don’t worry about it. You’re right, they are jealous, even if they currently aren’t giving you the time of day. Even I’m guilty of this; I went on a date-that-wasn’t-but-sort-of-was (lol, college) date with an intelligent, really good looking , incredibly kind black junior before coming home for break. I’d talked with him before about what I wanted in a relationship and pretty much ended up describing someone exactly like him- yet after the “date,” I realized that I just don’t like him that way. I can’t seem to make myself! Yet I know that if he turned around and married a white female right now, I would be extremely ****ed off. Because he’s rare. And so are you. And one day a girl will realize it and jump on you, and stupid girls like me will wish we had you. :slight_smile:
Wow. You remind of… me. Rock. Lol.</p>

<p>i’m black, high-achieving, female, and like other females on this thread i have an affinity for asians. maybe it’s because all my life, my closest friends have been asians. maybe it’s because i am always the only AA in my classes. maybe it’s because “my” black community (read: group of ppl who immigrated here w/ my parents, have kids my age.) focuses more on the fact that i dont have black friends than the fact that my grades make their kids’ grades seem pathetic. (they are just jealous.) maybe i’m just weird and think black/asian babies would be cute. (they are!! <3)</p>

<p>on tiger woods: he is an idiot for not covering up his tracks better. and for having sex in a church parking lot. that’s really disturbing. like, TMI.</p>

<p>Anyway, I think this is a really interesting site: [Stereotypes</a> about black women Abagond](<a href=“http://abagond.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2008/03/05/stereotypes-about-black-women/]Stereotypes”>Stereotypes about black women | Abagond) on the topic. it’s from a black guy’s POV, and he talks about different “roles” black women have in the media, as well as other stuff. it’s pretty great, and interesting.</p>

<p>Like I said, it’s that conditioning. Looks like there are a lot of us, then. What I hate is that there’s this entire chunk of the black community who could give back so much but probably won’t because we don’t identify/are being chastised.
ps- Blasians are so attractive. Michael Yo? Neyo? <em>Tyson Beckford</em>? One day the world will thank me for birthing beauty like that…</p>

<p>ps- Blasians are so attractive. Michael Yo? Neyo? <em>Tyson Beckford</em>? One day the world will thank me for birthing beauty like that…</p>

<p>lol hell yes! -high 5s- tyson beckford is a tigerr.
also see this: <a href=“http://www.chinashopmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/400px-Chanel_Iman.jpg[/url]”>http://www.chinashopmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/400px-Chanel_Iman.jpg&lt;/a&gt;
half black/half korean.</p>

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<p>The answer is not only what black people think but what SOCIETY as a whole thinks or labels people. In the USA, it doesn’t matter how much white blood you have, as long as you look black, you are black. If Tiger or Obama stood on the streets in NYC for a cab, the cabbie will see black men. Both Oprah and Bill Cosby have related stories about being passed up by cabbies who pickup a white fare nearby. Here’s another, if a white woman got on an elevator (although she most likely would wait for the next one) with Obama or Tiger, she would clutch her purse because she can see the color black not 50% white blood. Do you think when the police are doing racial profiling that they try to figure out that a person is 50% white?</p>

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You forgot Amerie and Kimora Lee Simmons :D</p>

<p>^^So are Nicki Minaj, Cassie, Kelis, Jhene, Mila J, and Naomi Campbell (I was surprised about that one)</p>

<p>Back to the original question. Here’s my take on it:
I don’t think black women are any more or any less attractive than Asian, Latina, or White women. I think what happens is that there are negative stereotypes attached to African-Americans in general and certain stereotypes (I don’t want to get into these stereotypes) given to black women that casts a negative light upon them. This problem is only exacerbated when the media perpetuates these stereotypes. </p>

<p>[Here</a> is a video](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGMAhWpDF8]Here”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGMAhWpDF8) from ABC news that discusses why most successful black women are having a hard time getting married. The problem isn’t that black women aren’t attractive. Nooo, black women are just as beautiful as women of other races. You don’t need a picture of Beyonce, Tyra Banks, or Alicia Keys to tell you that. I think these are some of the reasons that contribute to black women having problems with marriage:</p>

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<li><p>STANDARDS - Black women, specifically successful black women have really high standards that are hard to meet for most men. Whether it’s having a certain degree, or money, or being really tall, it’s sometimes hard to meet the standards of black women. If you watch [the</a> video](<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGMAhWpDF8]the”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGMAhWpDF8) you’ll understand what I mean.</p></li>
<li><p>THE NUMBER OF BLACK MEN who meet successful black women’s standards - The statistics about black men speak for themselves. There just aren’t that many black men that meet black women’s standards. The black men that are successful also tend to marry other races (eg. Tiger Woods). Another thing is that black men are more open to interracial dating than black women. </p></li>
<li><p>STEREOTYPES - The media (and society as a whole) portrays black women with negative stereotypes. In the few instances where the media portrays black women in a positive light, they are usually single. Think Oprah, Condoleezza Rice. </p></li>
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<p>Also, there is a huge disparity between black women and black men in higher education. Just take a look at [this</a> post](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1063839517-post47.html]this”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/1063839517-post47.html) from the African American results thread. An AA Female with a 2250 SAT, 3.8+ GPA, solid ECs and awards was deferred at Yale SCEA. I don’t want to get into an Affirmative Action debate but she said that “I think there is more of a demand for black males than females… at a place like yale”. Although that particular instance is taken out of context, it represents the disparity between black men and women in higher education. </p>

<p>So when you put all of these (and other) things together, then you’ll find statistics like 42% of black women NEVER marry.</p>

<p>Provocative video. I don’t think it’s a question of standards really- as of now, I don’t really see any difference between what I’m looking for and what my non black female friends want. I’d say it’s between 2 and 3- men of other races aren’t looking for a real relationship with us as much, black men are looking elsewhere when there are so few of them to begin with… <em>sigh</em></p>

<p>On # 2 of what Harambee said, I think some black men realize what a commodity they are. My brother is 30, with a Bacehlor’s and Master’s from Howard, a nice apartment in DC, a job which is both reasonably paid and sympathetic, no kids, and no record. And he knows that he is. He knows that there are a lot of black women who are interested in that, and sometimes he isn’t exactly fair about it. He won’t settle down, he won’t become exclusive. He won’t realize how desperately I want more nieces and nephews. Well, JK on that bit, but you see what I mean.
Of course, it’s not only black men who don’t settle down. That’s a characteristic often, and frequently unfairly, maligned in all men. </p>

<p>The video was very provocative… I hear these complaints every time all of my paternal family gets together. The “older” women who are 25-32 all start complaining that too many of our young cousins are getting married. My mother asked one of my cousins if maybe her standards were too high, and she said she hadn’t been asked out in two years. Two years! And she’s gorgeous and incredibly intelligent and successful.</p>

<p>I think a lot more black women are choosing to “settle” though. My mother knew black men like her, fairly successful, with degrees from Cornell and GW, were rare, so, at 33, she married a man who already had two children. My aunt married a man who already had three.</p>

<p>@ Millicand:</p>

<p>Most men nowadays are not willing to settle. More and more people are marrying later rather than earlier.</p>

<p>@Entertainer: as a black male around our age, what would you advise we do at this point so that this doesn’t happen to us? Just curious for a male perspective.</p>

<p>@nil, thanks. I’m blushing. lol</p>

<p>@the.pfenix- I appreciate the support too. </p>

<p>Thanks to you guys I have just come to realize I’m pretty valuable. (They say only you can know your own worth and I’m more valuable than I thought) If I keep it going like I’ve been so far, I’ll have much better chances at girls. MUCH BETTER. Thanks again</p>

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While they may be “settling”, at least they are not raising children without a father. Hopefully their sons will grow up to be less of a “settle” than their fathers and more attractive to black women.</p>