Why Do Parents Let Their Kids Have so Much Say?

@CaroKann 51% of CC is pointless.

That’s probably an underestimate. And doesn’t it seem like this week’s drive-by charm offensive started early?

The university of South Carolina’s business school is very well regarded. Their international business degree is rated number one in the country. You can double major in Chinese and intern in China. Depending on what you want to do, Carolina could be a fantastic opportunity for someone.

@SomeOldGuy My Magic CC Calculator came up with that estimate, the same one that I use to compute chances in the chances section. Of course, it could not be in the best working order because the moon is waning. I’ll recalculate to be sure.

“I, as a casual browser of this forum, have personally seen you post variations of the above quote dozens of times. What motivates you to post this over and over?”

@LongTimeGuest Some posters on CC are indeed looking for reassurance, particularly h.s. sophomores and juniors who have no idea whether they will have the qualifications and good fortune to get into their dream schools, whether Colgate, South Carolina or wherever.

But many others are motivated to repeat for different reasons. Not everyone reads multiple threads on a regular basis, so when a new poster asks a question that is a variation of something that has been asked before, some reiterate a point for that particular person’s benefit. And many threads will have a dozen or fewer views before they fade into oblivion, but the one or two people who took time to answer may turn out to significantly help the OP.

And then some repeat because we are enormously proud of what we have accomplished. I sometimes fall into this category. The poster you directed your comment to in your post # — probably falls into this category. You have a right to any opinion, obviously. But IMO, the manner in which opinions are expressed often says much more about the person who is posting, than the person the comment is directed to.

Edit to remove post#, due to a reordering of postings.

It’s spring break…just saying!

^ Not for me, my community college where I am dual enrolled did away with it this year.

A lot of students still pay for college on their own.

It is not commonplace for parents to spend $40k+ per year for their children’s education in the working-class/lower-middle classes. In this world, students go to a community college and then transfer for to a local state school for a fraction of the cost. Their parents may, or may not, have much involvement beyond vague encouragement.

Hmm I feel like I missed some things thrown at me last night. (Seems my long-time harrasser made yet another account?)

Fwiw, I have lived outside of Michigan. I’ve even lived outside of the US. Not that I see why that’s relevant.

@wallybrown First, I think you intentionally posted the original question just to start an argument.

But without know more details, it would be hard to know if Colgate is really a better choice than South Carolina. Have you ever seen USC’s campus? It is gorgeous. And yes the weather will be much better too. Did you know that USC has the #1 ranked undergrad International Business program?

Personally I’m glad that we are letting our current senior have a lot of input on his college choices. He has shown a lot of insight in the schools he wanted to apply to.

I love these discussions, in which people who argue that a thing has some value are described as believing that it has all-powerful value, while those who think it has a little less value are described as believing that it has no value at all.

To the spirit of the question rather than the specifics of the school choices involved, are there any parents on this forum who are paying for their children’s undergrad who would not exercise final veto power on the final decision?

if they still disagreed with it after the choice was explained?

Are you guys planning on picking out your kid’s future spouses one day too?

@Gr8One Our D has narrowed her choice down to two colleges at this point. There is definitely one that W and I prefer but the choice is ultimately hers. We would not veto.

As for future spouse @Momzie, I definitely don’t plan to pick one out, but I won’t rule out a veto, either. :slight_smile:

Hmm it appears that one of my posts was eaten by this thread.

Copy of my previous post:

Hmm I feel like I missed some things thrown at me last night. (Seems my long-time harrasser made yet another account?)

Fwiw, I have lived outside of Michigan. I’ve even lived outside of the US. Not that I see why that’s relevant.

And, also FWIW, I don’t say things like I say to brag (there’s a thread for that :slight_smile: ). I say them because it makes me sad how much emphasis there is on so-called “top” schools on here. To the point of foregoing languages, exploratory courses, and scheduling every minute of every day for kids. Many, MANY people go on to be successful after going to a non-top school.

There are definitely some schools that I would not pay a dime for. That wouldn’t be quite the same thing as telling D1 she cannot attend them. To the best of my knowledge she has not applied to any of them.

Of those she has applied to, I set a limit to what I might pay (half the price of the most expensive IS public school). So while I won’t tell her she cannot go to an expensive private or OOS school, for several of them it seems extremely unlikely that the price would be within reach.

I don’t have veto power over where she actually goes. I do have veto power over my own financial contribution.

"to the spirit of the question rather than the specifics of the school choices involved, are there any parents on this forum who are paying for their children’s undergrad who would not exercise final veto power on the final decision? "

We did not allow our kids to apply anywhere that we would not have happily allowed them to attend. Waste of time and money for a kid to apply to a college which is on the parents “You’re not going there” list. One of my kid’s GC’s was pushing hard for a school which I felt was over-priced, over-rated, and under-delivered intellectually. We explained that to the kid- and the school came off the list.

I don’t believe in kicking the can down the road. Every college on the final list met the criteria-- and we would have allowed the kid to make whatever decision he needed to once the acceptances came in, fully aware of what the trade-offs would be. I wasn’t prepared to be full-pay for a four year summer camp/social experience, but the final decision among the options was one each kid needed to make.

I’m a high school senior who’s about to make his final decision. I’ve been reading these posts and just wanted to chip in myself. My parents know where I want to go next year and have pretty much accepted it despite any reservations they might have about the distance (from NJ, going to school in NC). However, they DO have veto power if they feel that I’m not ready to go so far away from home, so long as they veto before May 1st. I personally think that it should be the kid’s decision as to where he goes for undergrad; it’s HIS life, NOT his parents. Parents can encourage one choice over the other, but should be totally fine with wherever the student wants to go.

As I said above, I would refuse to pay for certain decisions. I guess that’s a veto. I would not, however, refuse to pay for decisions that I disagreed with with less vehemence. Just to give a real-life example, when my daughter gave up ballet for soccer, I thought that was a mistake. But I let her make the decision, paid the soccer fees, spent years in soccer bondage, etc. But I would not have paid the fees if she had wanted to give up ballet in favor of pole dancing lessons.