@emeraldkity4 “there’s always room for one more good one.” Sounds like a JFK motto, all right. :))
She sees her future being better with him than apart from him. Fairly simple.
^^ Very interesting article, emeraldkity! Thank you for posting it.
What happened to for better or worse? I don’t think anyone should judge what goes on in anyone else’s marriage. I suspect that Hilary loves Bill. We can love people who have plenty of faults. I’m sure most of us have known men and women who loved alcholics and drug addicts, spendthrifts, gamblers, liars, etc. Why shouldn’t someone love someone who is a serial philanderer? When the whole Lewinsky mess happened, I didn’t think Hilary looked like someone who was just angered by her husband’s infidelity or even someone who was humiliated. I saw a wife who was very, very hurt.
George Washington cheated. FDR cheated. Eisenhower cheated. Nancy Reagan was pregnant on her wedding day. JFK’s love interests included a 17 year student at the Brearley School in NYC. He used to sneak her into the White House. George HW Bush had several short-lived liasons and then a very serious affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald that if the rumors are true came very close to causing Barbara to leave him.
I think all of them did something very wrong, but I don’t think there’s much correlation between how faithful a man is to his wife and how good a president he is. I’m convinced that Jimmy Carter was a faithful husband and he has done one heck of a lot of good for the world, but he was a lousy president. FDR was a great one and he cheated.
I don’t think the cheating was the ONLY problem, but if Hilary is going to be President, there’s opportunity for Bill to strike again, consider his character, I would characterize him as a predator. Except this time, it’s not going to be a blue dress but maybe red dress. Different color, that’s all.
I always thought that the powerful and rich can get away from something “sinful” (or at least an unfaithful act to the spouse) like this much more easily than the rest of us.
By the way, if the White House is the President’s home, can he legitimately claim that because this happens at his home, it is just a private matter and it does not happen at the work place? (Hmm…In the case of Lewinsky, I do not think it happened in the “home” section of the White House.)
Another rich and powerful man who could get away from this is the ex-CEO from HP. HP, being a more traditional company, got rid of him but Oracle immediately recruited him. I do not think any low-level employee could fare so well if he has done something similar.
The fact that Bill made a lot of money (by giving the talk and authoring the book, etc.) after he had left the White House sadly tells the people: In this world, this does not matter very much as long as you are " very capable."
I don’t get staying with someone who cheats and lies, but Bill’s not my husband. I assume Hillary was/is willing to forgive him and for the sake of their daughter and their future political aspirations, I guess she thought it was better to continue on rather than divorce Bill. The Clinton’s were broke when they left the White House–they’ve done very well since then. That may be important to Hillary too. Plus, it’s clear that they both love their daughter and Hillary may have stayed together for that reason as well.
Presidents aren’t perfect–they’re like the rest of the population that way. Some cheat and some don’t.
Who’s to say that Hillary hasn’t cheated? Personally, I don’t care how they choose to conduct their marriage. They’ve managed to accomplish one thing that less than half of the spouses can claim, a marriage that hasn’t ended in divorce.
I’ve read a lot about George Washington and there is no historical evidence that he cheated on Martha. I’ve also never heard that HW Bush had affairs.
But you left out LBJ, who did have affairs. Nancy Reagan being pregnant when she got married is not cheating which is the topic here.
Hillary is taking a huge risk running for president with the constant threat of another bimbo eruption by Bill.
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Oh @dstark I know that you weren’t judging.
As you said to your wife: "Hey! I didn’t do anything. I’m still here! " 
I was just presenting the situation in a way that could “hit home” for many men.
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also think Chelsea always factored Into their equation. I don’t think there is anyone who would dispute how much they both love her, so If they would otherwise work out a manageable arrangement, why upset it when they could both maintain a comfortable family situation and not cause angst and disruption to Chelsea and the grand baby.
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i completely agree. Hillary is more traditional in some ways than people realize. Maybe it’s her midwestern upbringing, but it’s there.
I’m pretty straight laced myself in a lot of ways but we all have our foibles. A lot of the world views Americans as being very puritanical and they are less likely to judge their politicians on matters of one’s sex life and focus more on intelligence, experience, and their platform.
With all those wooden teeth, George Washington probably was not much of a kisser. OK ewwww.
Well I think Hilary should run to be France president. USA is different. Puritan or not we are what we are. I was not too bothered when Bill was first run for President with the Jennifer Flowers scandal but almost all of my American colleagues were. But it seems like a habitual thing, disregard for many things and values American public hold.
I dont get the reference to Nancy Reagan either.
Gary Hart had to get out of the race in 1987 because of his affair. I think by 1992 when Hillary was 'standing by her man", voters didn’t believe Jennifer Flowers story. And of course, the electorate was split by Ross Perot or Clinton would not have won.
Hilary is not the one who has been unfaithful, like the president of France. I guess I don’t understand the comparison.
^Although I don’t think the “President of France” comment was in jest, there is something to be said about strong women leading European countries. Look at Angela Merkel, for G-D’s sake.
I agree completely that there have been, and should continue to be, strong female leaders (Benazir Bhutto, Golda Meir to name a few). I don’t find the comparison to a French president who married his mistress funny, or appropriate. If anything, it gives more credence to the importance of female leaders who don’t seem to get distracted by these things.
Maybe the political career is more important for her in this stage of her life.
By now, she should have known Bill well enough to know how difficult to prevent him from getting involved with another bimbo. Hopefully, Bill is indeed more “mellow” due to his age.
It is said that there are no lack of women who would be easily attracted (or shall we say, “conquered”) by a very “powerful” man like Bill who happens to have charisma. This reminds of this case: why would the youngest sister of Eleane Chao be married with a 61 years old banker when she was 35? I do not think she was after his money (she herself had plenty from her parents.) I forgot his name, but he is very powerful man (likely womanizing around in his life also). When a man has the power and charisma like him (I guess), it could make up his lack of youthfulness and physical attractiveness. (He was not particularly good looking at all. But he could be regarded as being very “manly” in the modern i-banking world.)
Who knows. Maybe Hillary thinks Bill is extremely “manly” and she is “fatally attracted” by him in her life also, and she would not be willing to settle for anything less. After all, she was following him to the south when she was young. I do not think she followed him there only because of political aspirations (especially when she was in that age.)
I guess in France they keep personal lives personal, even though the President is a public official. Over here, we have the “Gotcha Media” to have every detail of every minute of every celebrity, whether it is true or not. Hollande doesn’t have terrible policies when it comes down to it, and I guess the French people would take a good politician who makes poor personal choices over a poor President who is squeaky clean.
G-D only knows how Berlusconi slipped through the cracks.