<p>With an income per student comparable to that of say Columbia, I’m just wondering why our UTRA’s are worth 1000$, yet at Columbia the equivalent are 1500$?
Why is the research they do paid with at least 12$/hour, while here you usually do it for free unless you are lucky to receive an UTRA, after going through some stupid deadlines and bureaucracy? Not to mention the tutoring…they get from 40$ to 70$ an hour, we get 8 or 10 if it’s a group.
And our food and housing suck more. Some of my friends are still waiting to get heating. I’m lucky enough to stay in a dorm which for some reason doesn’t require heating to stay warm. I heard last year in pembroke they had to stay with coats on inside during winter</p>
<p>Oh but wait, i forgot, we have a high-tech vegetable farm of 4x4 meters near perkins worth a few million dollars…woohoo, we will produce exactly 4 tomatoes per year now. Talk about being self sustained.
Bard college is building a bio-diesel plant on campus. But. We have tomatoes.</p>
<p>seriously, what’s the deal with the farm? If people want to major in farming, they should come to romania, where farming is what 40% percent of the population does for a living, in their own backyard. It’s not considered a good thing.</p>
<p>We have a lower endowment so more of our money is going into investments right now since most schools operate off of the money their endowments are making for them year after year in addition to grant money (which we have a significant smaller graduate school, a smaller faculty, and thus, way less grant money overall) and tuition.</p>
<p>They’re going to be raising the UTRA funding in the next year or so to 4k, and it’s currently 3k, so I’m not sure where you’re getting the 1k number…</p>
<p>There was tremendous student interest in the farm, though I didn’t think it cost that much and don’t care about it personally, but over the last couple of years the creation of a farm polled extremely high amongst the student body.</p>
<p>The heating thing is more what people are used to than anythign else-- other than a few sporadic issues, the university has the thermostat on 68 in all of the dorms. Every year this causes some people to complain in both directions, too hot and too cold.</p>
<p>UTRA during a semester is 1000(which includes jobs as TA and other things), the one over summer is 3000. </p>
<p>Lol of course building a farm polled high among students…if they asked something like stop world hunger, that would poll even higher. Sometimes this place feels like it’s full of only miss usa’s. Only uglier. What do they need a farm for? Seriously?</p>
<p>Columbia’s a very different place. It is a miserable hellhole. I’d rather get paid nothing to work in a lab here in happyland than get paid $12 an hour to work in a lab at the miserable hellhole.</p>
<p>Well, the two days I spent there were very enlightening as to the fact that not all USA is like what I was beginning to think. There actually exist intellectual spaces where football players are laughed at rather than worshiped, like they are here. That is mostly because at Columbia people actually have to study, not play football and take English 11 and Intro to Africana Studies…and then go, ohh brown is sooo cool, I can take any classes I want, AND sit with my hand down my pants ALL day, and STILL get an ivy league degree</p>
<p>Lets not get into comparisons other than how money is spent. Lol@happyland</p>
<p>negru, I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone you met hated you.</p>
<p>“There actually exist intellectual spaces where football players are laughed at rather than worshiped, like they are here.”</p>
<p>The sooner you learn to accept the absurdism that is our world (the mass public worships professional sports–a trivial pursuit at best), and deal with it, the better off you’ll be in the long run. As of now, you’re so conceited as to think that academia is the only true direction to take in life. Yes, it is most practical and informed, but you must realize that everyone has their place.</p>
<p>Grow up. Not all the jocks are giving you wedgies anymore. Learn to co-exist.</p>
<p>I find it hysterical that at a school that largely couldn’t care less about it’s sports teams that negru believes the football players are worshiped.</p>
<p>I really don’t care if the jocks hate me when they meet me. I know enough nice and smart people to have to resort to accepting anything less. Of course the media and mass public worship sports. The mass public is also generally stupid. A friend of mine who had a football player as roommate told me how he didn’t know how to spell difficult words like “due”. dude, like, how do you, like, spell doo? you know, as in like, for tomorrow?
And he had lots of people worshiping him around. Everywhere I go all I hear is sports. Maybe there’s just a big difference of cultures, but playing sports where I come from is not only not worth anything, you are also considered stupid if you either play or are a fan of. We think the same about any ECs, but anyway.
I generally have no issue thinking less about people for whatever reason…jocks are certainly not the exception.</p>
<p>Of course everyone has their place, did I say kill jocks or something?</p>
<p>Negru, the college seems to be populated by Miss USAs because fortunately or not so fortunately, the students are very politically correct. Columbia, by contrast, likes to admit what they call “individualists,” something I find kind of funny but it may be more your style. Try out Princeton if it really matters all that much. There, you may get away with saying things such, “affirmative action is a sham,” without enraging the entire campus; there may be a bit more diversity (not ethnic diversity everyone!) and less of that team-player, happy-go-lucky attitude which so bespeaks of Brown. Personally, I’m in love with Brown and its tree-hugging, I want world peace, let’s all smoke weed and get high persona : ) </p>
<p>IlikeDice, your inept pseudo-philosophy made me giggle. You sound like you’re just out of high school and have been reading too much of that new-age Buddhism filth that seems to populate all the bookshelves in SoCal. Learn to coexist, ha! my ass. </p>
<p>And I agree with modestmelody, Brown students don’t seem to care much about sports teams…however, when I visited the campus, the girls I stayed with seemed to mention them quite often in relation to hot guys. I was even given advice: Brown guys aren’t that attractive, except for the athletes maybe. Make sure you date an athlete.</p>
<p>That’s an unfortunate generalization, Isabella.</p>
<p>And God forbid, negru, that someone take part in a team sport for the sake of recreation and relaxation. By Jove, that certainly cements one’s intelligence level! If you play sports, you must of course be a moron; there is simply no other explanation for it.
And yet, going out and drinking as much as you claim to do clearly has true purpose behind it and serves as a genuinely intelligent form of using one’s time. Am I right?<br>
Your logic is flawless, hats off to you. </p>
<p>Hey, does everyone hate fun in Transylvania, or are you the only one who leads what sounds like such a heinously stale life?</p>
<p>It’s not as if I’m expressing some deep insight. Learn to deal with your surroundings, it’s that simple. You can’t strive for environments where the people you personally hate will constantly be ridiculed.</p>
<p>Enjoying some sports is one thing…worshiping it like only gypsies and factory workers do, and considering it a good thing, to the point of recruiting, is another.</p>
<p>What everyone does with his time is his problem. Don’t get it into college. Yes I drink and go out a lot, I have also skipped a lot of school in order to do just that, because it’s the way I work. But even so, I’m good at what I do and I know many other things. How many jocks have that excuse?</p>
<p>Now don’t get me wrong, by no means do I consider that academics is the sole purpose of life. I’d drink beer and play WoW all day if I could. But apparently we are now in college. And yes in college academics should be the only way to go. Besides what you do in your free time.</p>
<p>“Yes I drink and go out a lot, I have also skipped a lot of school in order to do just that, because it’s the way I work. But even so, I’m good at what I do”</p>
<p>Yes I PLAY SPORTS A LOT, I have also skipped a lot of school in order to do just that, because it’s the way I PLAY SPORTS. But even so, I’M GOOD AT WHAT I DO (PLAY SPORTS).</p>
<p>While there are probably a lot of athletes who fit your grossly exaggerated stereotype, I’m sure you could find plenty, even some at Brown (GASP!), who you could have intelligent conversations with. The fact is, a large portion of NCAA athletes graduate from their respective universities and go into professions unrelated to whatever sport they played in college. So clearly, they have that excuse. Don’t let a few bad examples create a delusion that all athletes are the same brutish fools. </p>
<p>Regardless, they are taking advantage of their abilities, just as you do yours. What is the problem with that? Are you jealous that some athletes maybe make more money or gain more fame/popularity than someone in your particular field of interest would?</p>
<p>All in all, negru, I take it that you are not the type of person to give individuals a chance. You let your preconceived notions do all of the introductions for you. As a result, you are so socially blinded that it’s a wonder you found any group of friends to associate with. But I’m glad you did - don’t want you going crazy and blaming everyone else for your discontent.</p>
<p>For someone who sits on his high horse all day and shouts nasty things from afar about the intelligence people who play sports, you shouldn’t be making spelling errors in your posts. Just sayin’.</p>
<p>Are you disputing the level of fame of specific athletes? Don’t be ridiculous. National recognition for college-level athletes? You yourself were commenting on the country’s fascination with sports, and now you are wondering if those who take part are recognized. And again, you are calling the jocks imbeciles.</p>
<p>I never pretended to be an ace of the english language</p>
<p>Nationally recognized means top 10-20ish. And don’t get me started with all the millions of categories. Outdoor track indoor track etc. I’m pretty sure I could find one in which I’d be number one. Say reaching 5 miles per hour by farting. With a lot of passion, motivation and work I bet I could do that. Then I should also get recruited</p>
<p>Again, not everyone competes for fame. In fact, I don’t know if anyone does that. Not everything is about vanity, and you really need to understand that. Plenty of people enjoy the rush of competition. I’m sorry that you didn’t think to take up a sport earlier in life so it would help you with college admissions. It’s not for everyone, but it is very much in the same vein of talent as an artist or a musician or an actor.</p>
<p>As for those lesser-known sports, you’d be surprised that those are probably among the most qualified students at their schools, who also manage to fit a successful athletic career into their schedule.</p>