<p>“Perhaps talk to Jason (modestmelody)”</p>
<p>I think that has happened as I read earlier in this thread.</p>
<p>"but what do you not have that you really need / want and have REALLY pursued to get. "</p>
<p>I don’t know about him but more parking would be nice for employees. Is that in the works? Also my dorm needs major work. Even the res life people make funny faces about it. But I know it won’t change until long after I’m gone.</p>
<p>“It happens everywhere” isn’t an argument nor excuse. Neither “we have it made” means we should become self content.</p>
<p>Writing a 1-2 paragraph long message doesn’t take me more than 2-3 minutes.
However, searching what the hell the electric dipole moment for HCl is for physics 47 takes quite a while. And not very useful except for doing my homework. This is what eats all my time. This and taking 40 measurements of colliding masses in lab. This is why I fail to see any connection between how hard a class is and the time it eats. </p>
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Well good for you. But since here the WHOLE point was to discuss these little things, your post is not very useful.</p>
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And also let me guess, you, being a brown liberal likely, also vote for the democrats and despise bush, right?</p>
<p>And because I only get opposition here that doesn’t mean that everybody disagrees with me, keep that in mind.</p>
<p>also, I will copy paste a post I made, until you people get it.
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<p>“you…despise bush, right?”
As anyone who understands the current world situation should.</p>
<p>yeah, like people who wear red on the main green for one hour strongly believing that that will magically overthrow a government thousands of miles away</p>
<p>That’s… Not at all what I said. </p>
<p>In their defense, they were making a point. Clearly it stuck out in your mind. Maybe you think it’s foolish or useless, but they are stating their convictions in what may be, for them at least, the only way possible.</p>
<p>Just as you yelling about Brown’s flaws on this forum is your own silly way of making your point. It’s not going to create change, yet you continue to say what you believe in. </p>
<p>Tell me, what is the difference? In the scope of things, I’d say their cause is arguably more important than yours.</p>
<p>well the difference is that part of the use of this forum is for students to talk about college</p>
<p>Oh, so a college campus is just no place for the exchange of ideas, then? Solid point.</p>
<p>what ideas</p>
<p>what purpose</p>
<p>do you think the dead monks are now feeling any better because some brown students wore red for 1 hour on the main green?
or the authorities who killed them are feeling more guilty? do you think they even know or care what brown is?
or, was it to make a statement to US authorities that brown students disapprove of killing innocent monks? authorities which obviously had no idea of the situation there and were totally not assessing it for years now, thank god for our world aware and politically active students to bring it to their attention, now finally a solution can be found, because we want world peace and *<strong><em>.
so that, what should follow, exactly? diplomatic pressure? what if they just say, *</em></strong> you, like most countries do when facing diplomatic pressure? oh, make an embargo, which will only ruin the economy and make things even tougher? overthrow the government? but wait, I thought you bush haters say that going to iraq to overthrow saddam was a bad thing.
So, what exactly do you plan to achieve by wearing red, assuming ANYONE in this world even cares?
besides “duuude, let’s like totally wear red and smoke weeed on the green, yeah, **** those nazis or whatever they are, it’s horrible! hey john come with us, we’re protesting against some evil dudes who shot monks, let’s totally walk around and make a well thought political statement! then we can make it just in time for the free israeli soldiers march from faunce to the ratty, so we can eat some pizza and coconut rice, then go back so i can write on facebook that i took part in the brown chapter so all the chicks will be wow you know so much about the world, and are so sensible, you really care about all those monks”</p>
<p>sometimes it really scares me that the politicians of my time will come from these people…the mtv generation of world rulers, can you imagine?</p>
<p>Broseph, I was not one of the people protesting that day. I am not the one suggesting government action in Burma (and I don’t believe they were, either). Iraq has shown me that foreign intervention does not work and should not be employed, unless to prevent a genocide, since we made an oath after WWII to do just that (as did the rest of the first world countries. We are all so great on keeping promises). I cannot tell you what their aims were, if they had some solution in mind, or anything. From what I can tell, it was probably just a statement being made to say, “We do not agree with the violence.” There is NOTHING wrong with this. They know very well that their actions will not cause the situation to suddenly disappear - don’t be delusional. </p>
<p>But what you keep forgetting is every argument you throw out about those protesters, also applies to what you are doing this very instant. Do you think voicing grievances on here is going to solve your problems? </p>
<p>It’s not like the current generation didn’t march and protest and make noise. Or do you not remember Vietnam? Unfortunately, since then, political leaders have figured out that they can let people protest and just turn the other way. The right to assemble is close to worthless at this point. But that doesn’t mean you should just sit there with yourself and just grumble to nobody. It is at least important to get your point of view on the table for all to see. Who knows? It could change some minds, or build momentum for desired action.</p>
<p>Negru, as I said before, because this board consists of mostly prospective students, the people are not going to respond to you in a way you’d like. If you want change, you have to take your arguments to current Brown students. Prospective students can’t change anything unless they are admitted and attend Brown, and most likely, those of us who are admitted won’t be talking on this board once we’re current Brown students unless we want to give advice and respond to next year’s prospective students. So go take your views and present them to people who will be able to do something!</p>
<p>and I’m already scared about the president we have now… at least the young people in this generation are able to identify the flaws in our policies when our current leaders are blind to them.</p>
<p>Negru the overall picture does need looking at, because it puts things in perspective. I’m not going to commit myself to the cause of bettering campus food because compared to everything else here that is great, it’s not a big deal. </p>
<p>Dorms? Yeah, they need improvement, but good luck. That’s a universal problem with colleges. Again, not that big of a deal. </p>
<p>I agree with you, the wearing red thing is pretty stupid. But I don’t think anyone thinks they are actually changing anything by wearing red, only expressing their opinions. </p>
<p>I have no idea what my political views have to do with any of this. But transferring to another school is nothing like picking up and moving to a different country. </p>
<p>And yeah, we shouldn’t have “overthrown” Saddaam because he was a DEFUNCT dictator, and said “overthrow” has only led our country to be in a miserable 4 year war.</p>
<p>Negru,
DaveB makes an excellent point. You mention that the protesters and activists on the main green made no difference to effect change and daveb pointed out that your airing of grievances about Brown on CC will have no impact in effecting change either at Brown itself or your personal negative experience. There is some parallel there.</p>
<p>You gloss over posts that suggest taking INITIATIVE to create change both for your own educational plans/needs and any changes you’d also like to see Brown make. People have suggested meeting with advisors to set up a more challenging and appropriate course of study for yourself. People have suggested you meet with the DUG group for your concentration. There are also education and policy committees. Get involved to create changes in your own educational experience as to what is working for you or not and how you can create a better situation for yourself AND if you want ot make long term changes at Brown (these are two different things, mind you), get involved. </p>
<p>CC is a message board primarily for those interested in COLLEGE ADMISSIONS. Many of the members are prospective students and parents. Some are professionals in this field. Some are college reps. Some are current college students who have graciously stayed on CC to help those who come next in sharing experiences and answering questions from the “inside.” </p>
<p>There are better forums for discussing changes at Brown and for yourself. There are groups at Brown that you can join that deal with your major, or other educational issues. There are deans you can speak with. There are counselors. As well, I believe there are message boards like the Brown Daily Jolt or likely something on Myspace or facebook. There are letters to the editor at the Brown Daily Herald. Why, there are ways to even protest on the main green! 
CC really is not the place to effect change. You can get advice about what is not working for you at college and I have seen people offer you some solutions. I have yet to hear you discuss any solutions or any actions you are taking to either turn around your negative experience so far at Brown or to make changes to how things work at Brown. You complain but I see no action. No willingnes to discuss the suggestions given to you. I have heard you say you have “no time” yet your schedule is way lighter than many Brown students whom I know and let’s not forget you put down the busy “dumb” athletes. You mentioned cutting classes and going out drinking. If you have time for those things and ALSO reading/writing on CC, you have time to make a difference in your experience at Brown, meet with others, and effect change. If you can’t make it work for you, it may not be the school for you. OR, maybe you’d be dissatisfied no matter where you went, I dunno.</p>
<p>I have to agree with the prospie who posted that they have great difficulty reading continual messages decrying Brown and great dissatisfaction with Brown when they are dying to get in and take your spot. This board, after all, serves prospies and their parents. That is its purpose.</p>
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EXACTLY, that’s why I’m not interested in any of the two!</p>
<p>I am merely stating my opinions regarding several aspects of Brown.</p>
<p>For example in the topic “how hard are classes at brown” or whatever it was called, I posted to share my view, from my own perspective, which other people at brown and prospective students may or may not share.</p>
<p>You people turned into a complain thread, when you started giving me advice about how to overcome whatever I had a bad view about.</p>
<p>Which, if you take some time to analyze, is just like telling someone who criticizes Bush to move to another country.</p>
<p>Negru, if you read MY posts…I didn’t suggest the equivalent of “moving to another country.” I wrote many times that since you haven’t yet even completed one semester at Brown, that you should look into ways to make some changes to better your negative experiences and find some solutions for yourself AT Brown. Some of your “beefs” might be ones affecting you personally that you can see if there are ways to make better for yourself. For instance, if your classes are not challenging enough, meet with faculty, deans, advisors, and curriculum committees, and see what you can work out to create a better academic semester for yourself next semester. If there are social issues, see what you can do to change that situation. And so on and so forth. SOME things it seems you want to change about Brown itself. That takes more time and is harder to accomplish, but even in those situations, there are groups that work on change at a school that you could join and try to make a difference. You can even start such a group. </p>
<p>I then said that AFTER taking initiative to make some changes that may improve your experience at Brown (these are different than making changes to Brown itself which will take more time), and you are STILL unhappy attending the school, it makes sense to find a school that better fits what you are looking for as there is no need to be THIS unhappy at a college at this price and the years of your life spent there. I do think you might be able to turn things around and have a more positive experience AT Brown but if that doesn’t work AFTER some EFFORT to make some changes (and get help with that), then I would tell anyone to find a school that better meets their needs and interests as not all schools are for all people and “fit” is critical. But I never said, “find another school” from the get go. But that IS a solution AFTER you have tried solutions at your own school. </p>
<p>I don’t know what you ARE doing to effect change for yourself at Brown to turn it into a better experience, other than complaining on a message board for college admissions and telling us you have no time to initiate change or meet with anyone to solve the issues you face. Nobody minds that you don’t like Brown. Now, what ARE you going to do about it? There are things you CAN do. You don’t have to find another school. But after trying some things and you are still unhappy, there is no shame in finding a school you’d like better. OR it could be that you’d be unhappy anywhere (I don’t know you to say). </p>
<p>By the way, you wrote you are merely stating your opinions about Brown but it is OK to have some negative opinions…it REALLY IS! But you have shared NO positive aspects. And when it comes to the negative ones, you APPEAR to want to moan about them but never ever respond to suggestions of things you might try to IMPROVE those situations for yourself. I don’t mind negative views on Brown AT ALL. Now, what are you gonna do about your experience there?</p>
<p>^these are very good advice for me to follow in order for my experience to become a better one indeed, BUT that doesn’t solve the problem.Just like picking up golf to forget about politics won’t make bad old bush go away</p>
<p>we are not talking about me, we are talking about brown.</p>
<p>Negru…some of your posts are about YOU and YOUR experience at Brown. You indeed may have valid issues that are affecting YOUR experience. For instance, some of your complaints are NOT ones my own kid shares and she attends the same school. You say the courses are not challenging enough but that is valid for YOU but that is NOT HER experience. You say students worship athletes but that is NOT HER experience. You have made some social complaints. She loves it socially. Part of liking or not liking aspects of a school has to do with your personal experience and preferances. What pleases one person dissatifies another. So, you can make changes to improve certain situations for yourself on a personal level (changes in courses you take, designing an educational plan with advisors) and/or seek changes at the university level if it is something that several people have an issue with and join groups or create groups that can seek changes in those areas (groups exist for this). You can sit and complain or you can be proactive. </p>
<p>You are saying that all the problems are Brown itself, and NOT YOUR experiences there. If THAT is indeed the case, it takes a long time to change Brown. And so if you don’t see any of it as changes you could make on your own end to better your EXPERIENCE there, and that it only can be changes that BROWN makes, you will have to wait a while as change takes time and it usually requires a group of people and not a lone voice. OR if Brown is so awful for you and you don’t feel you can change what YOU do for YOUR experience there, you should find a school that really IS what you want. Why spend four years and lots of money to get what you don’t want?</p>
<p>“BUT that doesn’t solve the problem.”</p>
<p>exactly, so get off your computer and do something. Or are you one of the lazy Romanians you speak of so endearingly? I think your problems also stem from not being in this country long enough to understand our culture. i.e. thinking Brown students worship athletes. Man oh man is that a joke. Maybe you should go to a Big 12 school and find out about that.</p>