I think it’s great that most colleges/ universties have entire departments emphasizing “women studies” and helping women to succeed in college. But, it seems that the male students are falling behind and are being ignored somewhat. Don’t you think it’s a bit strange? What can be done to help the male students to succeed, in the same way that female students are being helped?
Won’t somebody please think of the men! Those poor, poor leaders of industry, disproportionately represented everywhere from Fortune 500 companies to Congress. And what if someday someone who is not a man gets elected president? What then? This demographic has truly been marginalized for far too long in our country. We must act now before they are marginalized right out of positions of power altogether.
If you are interested in a gender studies curriculum that profiles and explores male power dynamics most schools offer it.
It is called World History.
Each and every university has entire departments emphasizing men’s studies - particularly white men’s studies. They’re called the Department of History, the Department of Political Science, the Department of Music, the Department of Art History, etc🙄
What does offering a program have to do with helping the gender succeed?
You are correct - most colleges do have programs to help women succeed - mentoring, tutoring, etc. Last I checked, those same programs are also equally available for men.
Well, here is a post we don’t see everyday.
In the event you are serious…
I think I know what you are getting at, but everyone here has made a valid point. It’s true that more women than men now attend college. I’m not sure that’s indicative of men being ignored. In fact, most colleges give men an advantage in admissions because colleges like having balanced gender ratios. It is an open “secret” that men will be accepted with lower grades and test scores than women, if the college needs to balance that gender ratio.
If men aren’t seeking out the resources available at colleges, such as tutoring centers, professor office hours, and the like, I’m not sure that’s letting men slip through the cracks. Perhaps some men need to be more conscientious and develop a better work ethic?
Is my Sarcasm-O-Meter broken or is this a serious inquiry? It seems like the thread is addressing a problem that doesn’t really exist.
In my experience, male students aren’t in danger of “being ignored.” More often than not, I’ve seen male students getting more attention from instructors than female students.
I wonder if the OP is addressing the growing imbalance of M/F ratios in college enrollment? Not really sure.
First time poster, stirring up the pot. The best thing to do is ignore him.
Oh, I fully believe this is a troII post, but some are just too delicious to ignore.
I think it’s fascinating that some just immediately assume this isn’t a real post. There are many men out there that are thinking this, but are maybe too afraid (or wise) to share it.
I wish more were too afraid (or wise) to share such thinking…
If it was someone who had posted on CC in the past, I might not be so quick to assume it’s not a serious question. As a moderator for a very long time, I’ve gotten pretty good at sniffing out the fakes/troublemakers.
Similar to someone recommending a product. If it’s a user who’s been on CC for awhile, I know they’re being helpful. It’s a first-time poster, I know they’re spammers.
FWIW, I think this is ■■■■■ post too. But I do think if we take a look at education at the k-12 level, there are some instances where we are leaving boys behind. Boys are 3x more likely to have ADHD and I believe college enrollment is now 60/40 women to men. … and sorry to say it guys, but men are just slower to mature But no, I don’t think men are a disadvantaged group or that we need to start men’s studies programs.
We are not poo poo face😀
Oops. Meant to respond to the thread not to @worriedmomucb
Or may not be the demographic of these forums (e.g. high school dropouts or those who are in not college or career ready at age 17/18 as they barely graduate high school, sometimes due to ignored issues that may be remediable or treatable if not ignored).
This could be a ■■■■■ post, but in the event this is serious, there is quite a lot of recent research that American males are falling behind women in education, employment, and health. It’s an issue that is very worthy of serious discussion, so, in the event this is a serious post, I’m posting a few recent articles and a link to a podcast about the topic.
Edited to add that I don’t think that the presence of women’s studies majors or centers dedicated towards helping women succeed is problematic, as the OP seems to suggest. They’re necessary and valuable. It shouldn’t be an either/or in terms of supporting young men and young women, but a both/and.
I’ll say it : it is a problem. But the responses to this thread show why it will not be addressed any time soon.
Wow! Some of you are vicious! I think the OP has a legit question. Most universities are 60/40 women vs men (except for engineering schools or service academies). That may have something to do with the disparity in services.
This is a complex subject.
But I will just note one of the apparent factors is that many families still believe that female professionals need better qualifications, better performance indicators, better behavioral self-discipline, and so on in order to compete effectively with their male colleagues. And there is evidence to support that view.
Accordingly, it appears at least some families are, for lack of a better word, tolerating more imperfect behavior and results with their male children than with their female children, on the theory that their boys can be more imperfect and still succeed as well or better in the end. And this is compounded by the fact boys and girls do tend to have different maturation timelines.
And so when you are looking at what we might call midprocess results, like selective college attendance, you can sometimes see signs that girls have gotten to some sort of statistical advantage over boys. But that doesn’t mean that by the time you are, say, looking at career peak results, women will still have the same statistical advantages over men.
Given this, “fixing” everything to make it perfectly fair is rather a challenge. And in fact, it may be impossible to have perfectly identical results at each stage, such that we may need to prioritize at exactly which point we think equitable results are most important.