<p>Be honest with me, I need to know the facts…
I came to the U.S 2 years ago and I am bad in English. that killed me-
break down (M560, R490, W470) and oh yeah it is my first time taking the test.</p>
<p>I’m sorry to say but yes. I cannot imagine that you could be admitted with that low an SAT. But again, if you work at it you could really bring it up and still get in.</p>
<p>Don’t focus on the SAT so much. There is an explanation for the low score, and the SAT is not the most important part for Cornell admissions.</p>
<p>That is kind of low… I think you should work for a 1900. that will get you a sit</p>
<p>Not to be a debbie downer but that is much too low. You do have a reason why it’s low but at the same time all the instruction at Cornell will be in English and the reading comprehension and writing actually required to succeed here are at a much higher level than the SAT even tests. Unhooked applicants should shoot for at the very least a 2000.</p>
<p>even if you are not American, you math score should probably be higher. They can probably understand why the CR score isnt too good(they dont consider the Writing part of the exam i believe)</p>
<p>Yes. 10char</p>
<p>without some significant legacy connection - real money, or some great athletic hook, it will be very hard. anyway, you never can tell. if you are a superstar athlete in a major sport like football, you could even get in with less. Stanford and Harvard have accepted lower numbers to get athletes in their large audience sports. without that, it is very hard for you. just know that scores are meaning less at the top schools, compared to other factors.</p>
<p>Even recruited athletes aren’t getting in with a 1050 SAT. They have to get at least a 1200 to even have a chance.</p>
<p>Yes, it will completely destroy your chances. No need to beat around the bush.</p>
<p>Take it the second time then. Prepare for it.</p>
<p>norcalguy is right, NASA you have to ether take it again or go to another school and transfer.</p>
<p>csdad - you should look at the articles about some of Stanford’s recruited athletes - with much lower scores. When you have athletes that can put your school on network tv for basketball or football, that means big money and big time alumni support. Then again, there are not that many - maybe a few hundred athletes that are superstars in basketball and football with decent stats. Duke and Stanford go after those athletes big time - with no restrictive aid policy like the ivys. A superstar basketball player with a total SAT of 1600/2400 and a decent GPA will always win out over a 2400 / 4.0 applicant at stanford or duke - always!. that makes complete sense when you are a school that wants to get into the national spotlight on tv. There are a ton of smart kids - but not a lot of superstar athletes with decent numbers</p>
<p>^“articles about some of Stanford’s recruited athletes - with much lower scores”</p>
<p>Can you link one?</p>
<p>you don’t even need to look at the articles.
stanford itself in their common data shows applicants accepted with 400-499 in sat portions.<br>
Stanford itself also show acceptances for applicants with ACT between 18-23 - most likely athletic recruits
Your post suggests you don’t understand how athletics work.
Stanford or Duke getting on NBC or CBS in a big time game means big money
that is what it is all about
everyone seems to know that and that’s the way it should be
money makes a great school greater</p>
<p>“Your post suggests you don’t understand how athletics work.”</p>
<p>Do you mean me? Asking for a link means I don’t know how athletics work? Could be, but I was under the impression that Duke and Stanford could attract very good athletes with SAT’s 1500 or better. My D goes to Duke, and I have followed the basketball team somewhat for the last three years. It have also followed admissions of Stanford athletes. Most seem to be capable of at least average (500/section) SAT scores. </p>
<p>I have also read about kids taking the test over and over, and still not being able to meet some SAT standard. Is there no such thing?</p>
<p>I am open to learning; that’s why it asked far a link,</p>
<p>I think I saw a link somewhere that noted that average SAT score of Duke basketball players to be in the 1000-1100 range (out of 1600). Football and basketball at certain D1 schools are probably the only instances where these kinds of scores will suffice. The average SAT score of athletes at Stanford, Duke, Cornell, etc. is much higher.</p>
<p>Just look at stanford’s common data
they openly acknowledge that they accepted applicants with act scores of 18-23
and applicants with 400-499 in sat sections.
what is so hard to understand?
there are tons of smart kids
not many superstar athletes with half way decent academics that can put your school on national tv and win championships.
it is all about the money with big time sport schools like Duke and Stanford - which makes complete sense.
Duke and Stanford never will have a shortage of great academic applicants.
Superstar athletes are not easy to come by - especially if they can read and write english - even with an sat of 1500/2400.
I don’t think many Stanford alum would argue with getting a great quarterback with a 1500 (or somewhat less sat) over a 2400 applicant who is just a typical smart person - nothing special.
Alums love seeing their school win championships - and giving money…
anyway, this thread is getting off base - unless the OP is a super athlete in a major sport.
p.s. shrink - Duke reports that they accepted applicants who scored between 300-399 in sat sections. just check their own common data</p>
<p>How about you just post a link to the article that says Duke and Stanford basketball players score less than 500/section on the sat.</p>
<p>I’m not denying being recruited for a revenue sport would help the OP, but I think you might not be giving Duke and Stanford athletes their due credit.</p>
<p>I am giving athletes due credit- for sure some of them have top notch scores and gpa.
However, Stanford and Duke both report students accepted with very low scores.
Dukes shows students accepted with sat scores of 300-399 in sat sections
Stanford shows student accepted with sat score sections of 400-499 in sat sections.
They both show applicants admitted with 18-23.
If you need the link to the common data, I will post it - but it is right at the schools’ web sites. Anyway, I will look for that NYT article, but it should not be that hard to figure out that applicants with sat of 1200-1500 out of 2400 sat that are accepted at Stanford or Duke are athletes. Any good admissions office knows how valuable these top quality athletes are. Of course there are many athletes that also have great qualifications.
Usually, the superstar athlete spends so much time on athletics that it is hard to have great test scores. Maybe I’m missing it, but I always thought this kind of athletic recruiting at duke or stanford is pretty commonly known and makes complete sense.
P.S. the applicants that got into Duke itself reported scored 300-399 in sat sections, do you think they were just regular applicants?</p>