Hybrids require oil changes, and knowledge of the maintenance intervals is pertinent.
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Yes I know. And the self driving feature of Teslas is on topic too. And yet……
Back to the topic of the thread, please.
OP here. I’m the one who was contemplating getting an EV or hybrid.
Related to oil changes, my 2012 Volvo S60 had an engine replacement done by Volvo at no cost to me about 6 years ago. Car failed the oil consumption test.
This past September, my newer engine (a 2015) also failed the oil consumption test. Volvo was actually willing to put a second new engine in my car (2015 was the last year they made the engine my car had).
But Volvo also was willing to buy us out IF we bought another Volvo. They gave us more than double what the book value of the car was plus incentives.
We had our oil changed every 5000-6000 miles AT the dealership so they knew we were quite on top of oil issues. We had a decision about our old car within days.
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Soooo, back to EVs and hybrids, my DH loves his new Prius (much sharper looking than the old ones) but would have preferred the plug in hybrid (the prime) had it been available when he needed a new car.
We have heard of several people (including friend of DH’s and our s) who have had major problems with new Kia’s. I would avoid them at present, given their experiences.
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“Advanced driver assistance system” could mean anything from adaptive cruise control to (theoretical now) self driving.
What is called “basic Autopilot” on Tesla cars is adaptive cruise control and lane centering. Adaptive cruise control could be used alone without lane centering.
Yes, there is a range of “self driving “ features on the cars, and different features either come standard or are an upgrade. But this guy was an employee who reportedly had the beta testing version of FSD on his car and IIRC the wife said he used it a lot. My car has had software updates sent to it that will let it change lanes in the highway, and take the exit it needs to head home. I don’t use any of it, but others do.
Don’t people pay extra for these features?
For some. Because there are are other features/ upgrades that require
Some of these features. I can’t recall what they are.
Did you pay extra for it?
I paid a comparatively small amount (not cheap, but not $$$$$$) for the lower level option when I bought the car as (a) I fully expected to swap cars with DH and he would use it and (b) we considered when we bought it, that it would be a selling feature down the road as it allows (or did, not sure currently) for a less expensive upgrade to full self driving vehicles if another owner wanted to upgrade to that. I would never buy FSD when it became available. I know there are some features that I could only get (or could only be sent by software update) that were only available if the car had some level of self driving software on it. But I can’t recall what they are. I just remember being glad I could get them. The only one I am sad that I can’t get (I believe it has to do with which computer my car has) is the little ding when the traffic light turns green. My DS’s car has that. I want that!
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We have a Tesla Long Range, but there is still enough charging anxiety that we use our ICE vehicle for any lengthy trips. While we will continue to lease an EV (not staying with Tesla), our second car will be a hybrid or an ICE vehicle.
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On our 2017 Model X, adaptive cruise control came standard. Autopilot was also standard on the car we got. Tesla offered a $$ discount on the purchase of a future FSD capability - that was a hard pass for us.
Adaptive cruise control and some lane centering capabilities come as part of extra packages on ICE and hybrid cars we’ve looked at recently.
New Honda EV:
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Well they doubled in one year between Dec. 2019 and Dec. 2020. I haven’t been tracking the decline in ICE used cars but I assume they are down also because used car prices got crazy during the early years of the pandemic.
ICE vehicle used prices are down also but minimally in comparison.
The article is referring to the depreciation in value from their new price compared to what they might sell for after three years of use.
Hey, it’s good news for those wishing to purchase an electric vehicle at a more economical price but bad news for those that purchased electric vehicles wanting to sell them later on.
The first paragraph of the article, emphasis mine:
“Used (electric) cars lose as much as half of their value after just three years on the road, new figures show, as the rate of depreciation far outstrips petrol equivalents.”
Elsewhere"
"The average used car price has stabilized around 5 percent below previous year levels, but used electric vehicle prices dropped much farther and faster, with EVs currently down more than 33 percent compared to a year ago.”
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I imagine a lot of that is because the tech is getting better with every iteration. The changes are much bigger in EVs vs ICE vehicles.
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