Will you buy an electric or hybrid car next?

Yes for pickups in general, although the selection is much more limited for EV pickups. For example, the Ford F-150 comes with regular, extended, or crew cab, and 5.5’ (crew cab only), 6.5’, and 8’ (regular cab only) bed sizes, but the F-150 Lightning only comes in crew cab 5.5’ bed. Ford also offers the smaller Ranger and Maverick trucks, which are not currently available as EVs (although the Maverick is available with a hybrid drivetrain). Ford also offers the larger F-250 and F-350 trucks, which are also not currently available as EVs.

For years the standard pickup bed was 4’ x 8’, large enough for a standard sheet of plywood or drywall, and big enough to haul 2 cubic yards of material. IMO, the 8’ bed is the only reason to own a pickup

More recently the passenger compartments have grown, at the expense of the cargo area. It’s relatively uncommon to see a pickup truck without a rear seat. While they’re still available, a 4 door pickup with an 8’ bed is a behemoth.

As far as I can tell there are no EV pickups with an 8’ bed.

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Yup, none. Not even with a 6 foot bed. Patiently waiting for one… hoping our truck doesn’t croak prematurely. To us, a truck is a truck - a vehicle meant to haul stuff. Not to tool around town bro-style.

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The Chevrolet Silverado EV pickup is one inch short with a 5’11" bed length.

What does that even mean???

Our BFFs will unfriend us if we buy a Chevy! :laughing: Just kidding. It is nice but looks too big for our garage, although the second row of seats might be handy for storage of shovels, tarps, etc. :laughing:

If you have seen a Cyberdumpster on the road, you know what I mean. :laughing: :wink:

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I’ve seen plenty of cyber trucks. Nope, don’t know what you mean.

Perhaps this review will give you the gist . . .

I got to drive a Tesla Cybertruck for a day this spring. You jealous? You should be, because Elon Musk’s Boy Scout project is the kind of virile, powerful spacetruck that should be owned and driven only by our largest, wealthiest, whitest men. The kind of men who use speakerphone on airplanes. The kind of men who talk big about colonizing Mars as if it’s a realistic scenario. The kind of men who are training artificial intelligence to not only take your job but also steal your wife. Real can-do American men.

I fit the customer profile for one to a T. I am tall. I am white. I am loud. I don’t really have many friends where I live. Most important, I desperately want people to think I’m cool. You can see my thirst from the f—king moon, so why not drive an equally conspicuous truck?
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The Cybertruck doesn’t look like anything else out there, which is why your average new-money bro wants to plunk down $60,000 (at the minimum) for one. They’re paying to be noticed, and they don’t care what flavor of attention they might receive.
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Anyone who buys a Cybertruck, or any journalist who rents one as a stunt, is doing so for the attention.
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When I blocked traffic to weasel my way into a spot along the street, every horn behind me immediately piped up in anger. Because who feels bad about being an ■■■■■■■ to a white guy in a Cybertruck? No one.
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Regardless, driving a Cybertruck means accepting that people will assume things about you, most of them unkind.

But again, discretion isn’t this car’s job. This is a loud and lonely car for loud and lonely people. And while I enjoyed driving my Cybertruck, I hope I’m never loud and lonely enough to want to buy one.

https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/drew-magary-cybertruck-review-sf-19561381.php

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I don’t see many white people driving Teslas where I live.

Review wasn’t about all Teslas. It was about Cybertrucks.

Was that really a review, though?

Read it and find out.

Please get back to a productive on-topic conversation and drop the back and forth. Additional posts will be deleted without warning. Thanks for your understanding.

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That’s a great review! Thanks for posting. :slight_smile:

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“Most important, I desperately want people to think I’m cool.”

As far as the cyberdumpster (TM @BunsenBurner) goes, nothing more needs be said.

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One thing I had no idea that the Tesla truck had no knobs or buttons to control various things. I seriously hope car makers don’t get rid of physical controls in their EVs! Poking finger at a screen to show others that I want to change lane is not very safe. Voice control is not fast enough, not yet. Yelling “honk the horn!” takes much longer to get the desired effect that pressing a button.

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One of the many reasons I turned in my Tesla S at the end of the lease this month. While you can’t beat thrill of its straight line acceleration, I found the screen controls annoying. It was a bit dangerous on forward/reverse because you can easily miss-swipe and think you have it in forward but you really still are in reverse (or vice versa) and the instant acceleration could then be dangerous. I suspect that is what happened to the heiress Angela Chao. While being intoxicated did not help in her case, I have gone in the wrong direction many times (and I was sober).

Going through sub screens is a pain, and unless you are very familiar with all the functions, you often have to hunt through various ones. It’s like going into someone’s Windows and trying to find a specific item since you are not sure how they organized their folders.

Finally, I adjusted to the yoke after a couple of months, but tight turns are still an issue. The reason for the yoke I gather is because they want you to have a clear view of the dashboard screen. I much prefer a heads-up display on the windshield, especially for navigation.

I have an electric BMW 5 Series ordered. Unfortunately there is a recall on the braking system. I’ll do a short review/comparison after it is delivered.

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If someone would produce a <$30,000 EV with 1990’s knobs and buttons inside the car they would probably sell them out in a heartbeat.

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