2WD is a no go here in the PNW. 
We have rain and even snow, can you believe that?! 
The car will be used for short trips around town and will be charged off the roof. So range and charger availability are not the major concerns. Most importantly, it is the wiper tech and the headlights! 
Oh, and it must be blue. No blue… no go. 
Gotta wonder, when the impact of the tariffs hit the car market, if the price of all used cars, including used teslas (as well as new teslas) will increase.
That is to be expected, when people priced out of new cars that are more expensive add demand for used cars.
Also, expect car insurance prices to increase, since there will be a higher limit on the amount that an insurance company will pay for repairs or a total loss settlement for any given car.
Ummm… yes. I know. I kinda thought it was obvious what I was saying… especially without getting political.
Yes, but will people hate Tesla less? I am thinking no.
At some point, if Tesla survives as a car manufacturer, everything Musk have done will be forgotten. People have short memories. The issue will be not Musk et al, but availability of charging…
Forbes calls the CyberDumpster the biggest flop. Yes, it pays off to do a market research.
That is true, I was only thinking in the short term when used car prices rise due to tariffs.
Agree, but that point is unlikely to be in the next few years, so it needs to survive that - at a time when choice across all price segments of the EV market seems to be plentiful.
They hate musk. Not so much tesla. Sadly they are intertwined. He is a massive stain on the brand. The car really is fun to drive. He has always been horrible to work for. And now the world sees him for how whacko he is.
And…… just put solar on my house and a charger in my garage and a battery backup. All of that cost a LOT, especially since who knows if the 30% tax credit will be available when we file our taxes at the end of the year. My goal all along has been to be as resilient as possible if the grid goes down, so it was time to get an EV.
I did some quick research last night, and this morning went and test drove a barely used Nissan Ariya Evolve+. Barely used, as in a 2024, with 900 miles on the odometer, owned for only 4 months then traded in for a ICE suv. $27,800, and with our 2018 Honda CRV trade-in (because I did not want to have to deal with selling it myself) out the door for about 15.5K, including taxes, license plates, and everything.
Consume reports says it has a mundane drive, and that’s okay with me. It is as big as the CRV, decked out with EVERY possible gadget and safety tech and conveniences-including heated back seats and steering wheel, nice ride, good safety, 289 mile range, slightly slower at charging, comfortable seats. I am thrilled!!! I didn’t think we would find an EV for such an affordable price and certainly not one so plush.
And yes, I might have been just a little extra motivated to do this right away because of the tariffs!
We put in 10% additional PV plus new solar in 2024 and are deducting it in our 2024 returns. We get both IRS and state tax deductions for these. We did it because we were getting a new roof installed and they said the new panels we got are more efficient with better inverters. We let our roofer who removed the PV panels keep them to do what he wants with them—it was a win/win. We also got new gutters so we should be good for another few decades and next time around it will be the kid or whomever the new owners are’s time to figure out what to do.
H wants to buy a Hybrid Camry, but he’s on a waiting list and no idea when his name will be up and whether we will buy at that time or what the price will be.
Congrats!!!
Have been charging off the roof for a while now and love it. Even in our cloudy PNW we manage to generate more than we consume.
I moved a year and a half ago from Texas (overly abundant sun) to Massachusetts (clouds and snow). Our solar system is supposed to be able to generate enough power for our small house and car, so fingers crossed that all the trees don’t make too much shade. We will be buying a snow rake to clean off the reachable panels in the winter, because we want every kw of power we can get!!!
Roof rakes damage solar panels and will void your warranty. You aren’t supposed to use them.
Hmmm. The solar company suggested we use one. Probably, I am using the wrong word. This is a soft rubber thing that you use to pull the snow off.
We live in New England. We generate plenty of power in not winter months to fund electricity for our over 3500 sq Ft home. We don’t worry about the few times when the panels are covered with ice or snow. They are facing southwest and are black…and this stuff melts fast enough.
We just got a birthday greeting for two years from our solar company…that’s two years without any electric bills.
So back to cars…… interesting that we have now started keeping cars longer than we may have previously. I have kept cars up to six years in the past and one I kept for much longer than that (I think maybe 13 years?) My current EV is pushing seven years. But because it’s low mileage, I am not too worried about the big battery failing (hope I’m not jinxing it). and some of the newer and less expensive replacement, batteries are in some cases requiring a modification of the car. Hoping I don’t have to think about that for sometime.
We drove our new BMW PHEV SUV on its first “road trip” yesterday (about 3 hours round trip). We’ve had it about a month and a half, and it still has a half tank of gas.
We’ll be driving it to a ski vacation in a few weeks, which is a 7 hour drive one way. This car replaced our old ICE sedan. It’s a better car to have in the mountains. Being able to easily handle longer drives is why we we bought a hybrid. I get serious range anxiety, and stopping to charge is a PIA.
My hybrid car is a 2018 and still has a very good electric battery. I plan to keep driving it and hope the battery will continue to be great. My friend has a prius hybrid plug in that’s older than mine and I don’t believe she’s ever replaced her battery either.