Women at Duke turned off by Asian Men?

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<p>“Many women enter Engineering expecting a favorable M/F ratio, but according to the Social Division Of The Society For Women Engineers (Motto: “The odds are good � but the goods are odd”) most of these men turn out to be either emotionally unavailable, boring, overworked, taken or Asian.”</p>

<p>From the Duke Chronicle: <a href=“http://www.dukechronicle.com/media/paper884/news/2006/02/13/Columns/A.Sex.Tape.Nobody.Wants.To.See-1610505.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com[/url]”>http://www.dukechronicle.com/media/paper884/news/2006/02/13/Columns/A.Sex.Tape.Nobody.Wants.To.See-1610505.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.dukechronicle.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>What’s that suppose to mean?</p>

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<p>lol… No clue…</p>

<p>Guesses: Asians are stereotypically viewed as less assertive than Caucasians and are perceived as less attractive? </p>

<p>or Male Asians are typically shorter than most Caucasian women and are therefore viewed as less attractive?</p>

<p>any other guesses?</p>

<p>this movie tries to address the situation <a href=“http://www.wimp.com/less/[/url]”>http://www.wimp.com/less/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>lol… </p>

<p>all ethnicities enjoyed it on my hallway earlier in the week.</p>

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<p>There were a lot of letters written in to the Chronicle about that. It was inappropriate, IMO. Sure it was meant as a harmless (I hope) joke, but I’d have to wonder if people would view it that way if one were to replace “Asian,” with, oh let’s say “black.”</p>

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<p>Of course it would have been viewed differently. Racism in America means discriminating against blacks; all other races are fair game.</p>

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<p>WillDO,</p>

<p>you have no idea what you are talking about.</p>

<p>If you hadn’t realized it, but asians are generally stereotyped as only being good at doing math, hence overrepresented in engineering.</p>

<p>And at the same time, these same math stereotypes suggest that asians are generally regarded as nerds/socially lacking.</p>

<p>and bananainpyjamas, it would have made no sense to put “black” there especially since blacks are not represented at all in engineering.</p>

<p>Also, blacks are easily regarded as more social, in contrast to the asian stereotype, which would have rendered the reference to “black” illogical in this context because the women that the article seems to be depicting would be attracted to these “social” types.</p>

<p>Goodness, people have to think before they make ignorant/illogical comments.</p>

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<p>Oh yeah, and let’s say there was a derogatory “black” comment made, the reason that there would be more of an uproar is because the black community is more vocal/assertive about their interests.</p>

<p>On the other hand, asians are stereotyped regarded as not “assertive” or “social”, hence less of a vocal uproar.</p>

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<p>Agreed. But, before you accuse people of being ignorant/illogical, perhaps you should read their posts more carefully. I wasn’t advocating actually replacing “Asian” with “black,” or saying that would even make sense. The point is that people seem to think it acceptable to include “Asian” within a list made up entirely of negative personality traits, and I hope you agree that that is a bad thing. Like you said, if something similar had happened targeting African-Americans, there would be an uproar (hence my use of them as an example), but Asians are unfortunately seen as an acceptable target.</p>

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<p>I’m afraid I have to agree with the OP’s post. I mean, did you see the line of women outside Duke health services earlier this year? It seemed like everyone wanted a cootie shot. :p</p>

<p>Take the Chronicle for what it’s worth-entertaining and sometimes informative, but not always accurate.</p>

<p>nike, that movie was so wrong yet so funny lol. :D</p>

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<p>I also have to question another part of the quote:</p>

<p>“Many women enter Engineering expecting a favorable M/F ratio, but according to the Social Division Of The Society For Women Engineers (Motto: “The odds are good � but the goods are odd”) most of these men turn out to be either emotionally unavailable, boring, overworked, taken or Asian.”</p>

<p>I thought that was the motto of girls at my high school. :p</p>

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<p>that comment caused quite a stir, didn’t it? Sort of contributed to the unveiling of Monday’s author.</p>

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<p>I’ve heard people say the same “motto” about girls at MIT, i guess because it has a higher percentage of women than many other engineering schools.</p>

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<p>If this is the first time any of you (applicants) guys have heard that line – then you need to get out more. It’s a joke. I’ve heard “The Odds are good but the goods are odd” in reference to populations of men at top schools for years. </p>

<p>Applicants: Monday, Monday was, until today, an anonoymous humor column. Not to be taken seriously. Even though Pratt does have a large Asian male population…</p>

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<p>Pratt has a large Asian male population?</p>

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<p><a href=“http://www.dukechronicle.com/media/paper884/news/2006/02/16/Letters/Stereotypes.Unwarranted-1616599.shtml[/url]”>http://www.dukechronicle.com/media/paper884/news/2006/02/16/Letters/Stereotypes.Unwarranted-1616599.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I’ll admit I was surprised it was that low. Asians are more prevalent at Duke in general than they are at Pratt.</p>

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<p>You know, I have never been able to find where on the Pratt site these numbers came from. Of course, the first statement is a mis-use of numbers; putting the qualifier of “Pratt” but using Duke’s entire undergraduate population means it can be no more than around 1/6th (as in, “Only 1/6th of Duke population is a Pratt student”).</p>

<p>Doing a search on “Asian or Pacific Islander” on the Pratt web site yields only three documents - all applications for things with the Master of Engineering Management Program. The general Duke profile at <a href=“https://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/who_2009profile.asp[/url]”>https://www.admissions.duke.edu/jump/applying/who_2009profile.asp&lt;/a&gt; indicates 21.5% Asian, Asian-American, or Pacific Islander overall, and I find it extraordinarily difficult to believe that Pratt’s statistics would be much different…</p>

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<p>Asian engineers in general probably aim for schools that are very known for their engineering programs, like Stanford, Caltech, MIT.</p>

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<p>I hate how people make such stereotypes…The reason why there are more asians in schools can be explained by the immense asian population in the world. Its not that Asians are always the best: There are simply more of them because half of Earth’s population is currently living on that continent. Colleges try to base admissions on merit to some extent, but all schools would be totally dominated by asians if it weren’t for cultural balancing.</p>

<p>Its purely Darwinian…One day we will all be asian (the weaker races will die off)</p>

<p>No, I am not advocating phrenology</p>

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<p>Motto for how to succeed academically:</p>

<p>WWAD? = What Would Asians Do?</p>

<p>HAHAHA, wish I made it up myself, but I didn’t.</p>

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<p>Actually, the representation of Asians in US colleges is many times greater than their representation in comparison with the US population as a whole.</p>

<p>sanguine, don’t you mean to say “No, I am not advocating eugenics”?</p>

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<p>Yes, nikeswooshguy. SO TRUE. My school is 35% Asian. It’s scary. Not that I don’t like Asians–I am one, part, but the Asianness here is like WHOA.</p>