Worst Ivy School

<p>Cornell and Upenn are terrible in my book… You’d have to pay me quite a bit to attend either :x</p>

<p>Many of the posters in this thread are mean and irrational. They are venting because they are not smart enough to attend an Ivy. Its like kicking the dog after you’ve had a bad day. They should direct their anger at Mother Nature for being unfair to them.</p>

<p>^ or their parents, who just didn’t love them enough.</p>

<p>Greg7 makes a good point. I say we liberate Harvard’s endowment and put it towards the $700 billion bailout. At almost $40 billion, it would actually make a rather significant dent.</p>

<p>Aw boo hoo my next door neighbor has never heard of Cornell! What should I do??? Oh my God, did Brown just drop out of the Top 20 on the USNWR rankings??? PANIC!!! PANIC!!!</p>

<p>omg***!!! Brown is not in the Top 10!! I am waaaayyy too good for that college!</p>

<p>Dixie: You are wrong about everything!! where do you get your info (on things like diversity, etc)?? The rumormill?</p>

<p>Dartmouth:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>It is in an isolated spot- Which makes it have the among the most community oriented and active top campuses socially. </p></li>
<li><p>No real internship opportunities: SO wrong!! Dartmouth’s D-plan allows for special Dartmouth only internships at all the top business firms throughout the year, a HUGE advantage for getting top internships. Dartmouth business placement is easily among the top 4 among the Ivies. Here’s some info (clearly banks are in flux, but they are good indicators of business prestige).</p></li>
</ol>

<p>[Ivy</a> Leaguers’ Big Edge: Starting Pay - WSJ.com](<a href=“http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121746658635199271.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today]Ivy”>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121746658635199271.html?mod=hpp_us_inside_today)</p>

<p>[Deal</a> Journal - WSJ.com : Dartmouth: A Good Week for the Unsung Ivy of Financial Connections](<a href=“http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/07/22/dartmouth-a-good-week-for-the-unsung-ivy-of-financial-connections/]Deal”>http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/07/22/dartmouth-a-good-week-for-the-unsung-ivy-of-financial-connections/)</p>

<p>[Deal</a> Journal - WSJ.com : Dartmouth: A Good Week for the Unsung Ivy of Financial Connections](<a href=“http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/07/22/dartmouth-a-good-week-for-the-unsung-ivy-of-financial-connections/]Deal”>http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/07/22/dartmouth-a-good-week-for-the-unsung-ivy-of-financial-connections/)</p>

<p>[2007</a> list of BB Summer Associate class by colleges | WallStreetOasis.com](<a href=“http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/2007-list-of-bb-summer-associate-class-by-colleges]2007”>2007 list of BB Summer Associate class by colleges | Wall Street Oasis)</p>

<p>[Private Equity Firms & Universities: What’s the Relationship? | BankersBall. Where Investment Bankers Come to Party. Investment Banking Compensation & Salary](<a href=“Bankers Ball”>Bankers Ball)</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/235587-consulting-core-schools.html?highlight=consulting+core[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/235587-consulting-core-schools.html?highlight=consulting+core&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<ol>
<li>Least diverse out of all the Ivies: Dartmouth is more diverse than Cornell, Brown, and Princeton. Its 35% minority this year (new data).</li>
</ol>

<p>Dartmouth
[Class</a> Profile](<a href=“Home | Dartmouth Admissions”>Home | Dartmouth Admissions)</p>

<p>Brown
[Brown</a> Admission: Facts & Figures](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)</p>

<p>Cornell
<a href=“http://admissions.cornell.edu/downloads/EnteringClassProfile.pdf[/url]”>http://admissions.cornell.edu/downloads/EnteringClassProfile.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<ol>
<li>Cornell has stronger engineering and business: Wrong! Dartmouth;s Tuck schools of business smokes Cornell’s Johnson school at the grad level. At the undergrad level Dartmouth econ (like HYP) places incredibly well.</li>
</ol>

<p>

</p>

<p>I’ve never heard an undergrad complain that their school was too undergrad-focused. How would location at all determine an objective rank of a school? What is your definition of what would make a program stand out at the UG level? Aside from engineering and maybe some of the sciences, I wouldn’t call any course of study ‘a program’ at the UG level. The % of a school that is Greek is not synonomous with the extent of partying or people not taking their academics seriously. I’n sure people focus on school much less at Ole Miss, UAlabama, LSU and I doubt their Greek systems are close to 50% representation. You are way off on all these items.</p>

<p>collegemom02 – re post #310, are there only seven Ivies :)</p>

<p>the missing eighth Ivy was Penn</p>

<p>Harvard University 1400 1590
Yale University 1390 1580
Princeton University 1390 1580
Dartmouth College 1350 1550
Columbia University in the City of New York 1330 1540
Cornell - Arts & Sci and Engineering 1335 1525
Brown University 1330 1530</p>

<p>University of Pennsylvania 1330 1520</p>

<p>Poor Dartmouth…</p>

<p>(well, actually the Dartmouth boosters here)</p>

<p>Sigh… Penn’s bad rep is still out there isn’t it? well… at least Wharton’s still there…</p>

<p>What the SAT scores indicate is desceptive. Cornell and Penn are much larger than the over six Ivies, and therefore, their top 500 matriculants may have as high or higher SAT than many of the others. As with any school, the really, really smart ones tend to find each other.</p>

<p>This is like arguing the difference between the 99th percentile and the 98th percentile. They’re all top schools and the difference in prestige is negligible.</p>

<p>cornell gets shat upon the most, i’d say. they are all fine institutions, though, with none of them being significantly better or worse than another.</p>

<p>I think Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth and Penn all get “shat on” equally…and unfairly. Each of those schools is near-perfect. Of course, we are talking relatively here. On an absolute scale, all Ivies are worshipped.</p>

<p>Good way to end the thread because it is all a matter of which one you personally like best as a fit.</p>

<p>Alexandre, I really do not know what you are talking about because you have sort of mentioned that before. But Brown and Dartmouth are extremely well regarded (like Princeton and Yale ) for their undergrad…They may get shafted in rankings but that’s not what we are talking about here.</p>

<p>MyOpinion, I am not sure I can agree with you. Only a small fraction of the population, even on CC, would lump Brown and Dartmouth with Princeton and Yale. Brown and Dartmouth seldom get the recognition they deserve, for very different (often opposite) reasons than Cornell and Penn. As universities, all Ivy League universities are respected. But relative to each other, Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth and Penn do not get the recognition they deserve.</p>

<p>Call 'em the Rodney Dangerfield Ivies…we just can’t get no respect!</p>

<p>Hehe! Good one.</p>