Yale is Imploding over a Halloween Email

Janitor is a slight? That’s news to me. I still put “Janitor’s Closet” on plans because that’s what the New York State building code calls them.

Maybe EC doesn’t quite realize that her role is less than it was at Harvard, because that makes it seem weirder that the email came from her not him.

I wondered about that, since it’s nowhere but there and then repeated by a lot of the usual right wing suspects.

A lot of tweets purported to be from “Amherst Uprising” turned out to be posted by a fake account that has since been suspended by Twitter, but not before a lot of the fake tweets were repeated by media.

I guess we all have to carry salt around.

Didn’t somebody (or somebodies) upthread compare the disruption of student protests to the type of disruption studious students experience on game day?

When’s the last time the football team charged into the library and “[opened] the doors of study spaces with students reviewing for exams” shouting obscenities?

@prospect1 we might hold off a minute on assuming that was true. The Amherst thing has made it clear that deliberate misinformation is A Thing to Watch For.

I’d also say that even if so, a couple of jerks do not necessarily represent a movement.

The problem with changing words like “janitor” to “custodian” or whatever the new, better word is, is that in short order the new word can become the offensive word.

Changing the label doesn’t change the job. If it’s a job that somebody feels ashamed of for some reason, then it’s only a matter of time before the new label is just as shaming as the old. However, the unfortunate person who doesn’t keep up with all of the latest words is labeled as being offensive, even when there is no intent to offend.

I wondered the same thing as well #1282. My googling turned up one report from a Dartmouth student who participated until he/she stated that a small group of protesters turned things ugly. But did not elaborate on what was said. There is also some reference to it on the Dartmouth Daily News website in an editorial but I could not open the article about the protest. It is really takes away from the message if this and what was reported at Amherst was a part of this. The person that wrote the article noted that some of the students that were trying to study supported the protests, they just actually had to study at the time of the protest.

GFG it really depends on whether the documentary your daughter found is an actual well-documented piece of journalism or is not at all credible. Your assumption, based on your daughter’s finding it in her research, is that this is an important piece of information the teacher is unwilling to show. Recent history shows that many so-called documentaries would not actually meet the standards of journalism.

@ohmomof2,

gotcha.

And if false, how fiendish.

I must say, it almost reads as satire. It’s almost too preposterous to be true.

Just want to point out that Nick Christakis completed his undergraduate at Yale. As such, he should have a very good idea of what a Master’s duties are.

& it’s blank: http://thedartmouth.com/2015/11/13/students-stage-a-protest-in-solidarity-with-missouri-and-yale-drawing-both-support-and-controversy/

But google’s cached version also quotes a couple of students who said someone yelled at them. Not a mob.

Was the article posted in an official Dartmouth publication? If it was removed from the internet, it’s possible that (1) it was untrue in whole or in part, and possibly libelous, or (2) it’s true, but Dartmouth doesn’t want it out there.

Who knows. I can’t get the dartreview to come up now. Maybe just overwhelmed.

@prospect1 - yes official publication. And link to the article is still on the publication’s home page, it just comes up blank. Might be an error.

Here’s the google cache of it: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:VD1XQ8yki_gJ:thedartmouth.com/2015/11/13/students-stage-a-protest-in-solidarity-with-missouri-and-yale-drawing-both-support-and-controversy/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

There is a video embedded in this article which depicts a little over a minute of the protest in the library:

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6990

Dartmouth protest turned off even some of its supporters:

http://thetab.com/us/dartmouth/2015/11/14/i-was-proud-to-be-part-of-last-nights-protest-until-it-turned-ugly-978

Video showing protest with a girl being very aggressive to someone (47 sec), and another giving the finger to the camera (30 sec):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJAuVQlLxD0

What I find hilarious is these students ask for safe spaces, but have no issue creating unsafe spaces for others.

@harvestmoon1,

Thanks for posting the video.

In my OPINION, that looked like a wonderful protest for the Black Lives Matter group and a good exercise of free speech. It was disruptive, sure, but I didn’t see any physical violence or assaultive behavior of any kind (at least in this video).

And, unless it continued for hours (which I highly doubt), it probably didn’t disrupt these students’ studying for an egregious amount of time.

This is the sort of protest I expect on a college campus, assuming it didn’t escalate into the kind of stuff reported in the article.

@Cobrat -

Here you go. You can argue with the video.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/15/dartmouth-protesters-assault-students-while-screaming-racial-threats/

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6990

http://thetab.com/us/dartmouth/2015/11/14/i-was-proud-to-be-part-of-last-nights-protest-until-it-turned-ugly-978

But it doesn’t depict all the things said happened in the article, the cursing, etc. The finger and a student asking if the student filming thought black lives matter. That’s pretty much it.

Giving the finger? Meh.

Nothing I saw in the video made anyone’s space “unsafe.”

The kids sitting in the library looked uncomfortable, but so what? Come on, I could handle this protest and so could most of us. No coddling here, please.

Agree. But it is only about 90 seconds of the protest. Let’s see what else comes to light.

@harvestmoon1, oh no doubt. If there was violence or assaultive or threatening behavior, different story.

THIS video is not evidence of anything other than a passionate college protest, IMO.

We will see if there is anything else out there.

It may be that those other things are true. But we don’t see them in the video.

I’m also disturbed that the Black Lives Matter display in the library was “ripped down”. That does suggest racial tension on that campus.