<p>fammom
surprise surprise k-girl (who? you don wanna know, folks) loved Scripps.
are you going to meet her? if so go around Claremont on the way home. you either love it or hate it (me)
there are Pomona, Hervey Mudd brain boys to hang.</p>
<p>SIL has been to counseling both with my B and without, and has been on and off depression meds. After several sessions, counselor told my B that he was pretty much OK, but my SIL had issues she needed to deal with. SIL saw C a few more times and when they started asking her about her childhood, she shut down and refused to go after that. Just found out she is planning to fly to Illinois and get the cremated remains of her parents dog (he was given to neighbors after her D died because they had taken care of him for my FIL and loved the dog), and take them to the location her parents ashes were scattered and scatter them there. No word on what the neighbors think of that idea yet. Yes, she needs some help. </p>
<p>H was the executor of the father’s estate and SIL was VERY upset about that - she thought it should have been her. If it had been, we’d still be waiting to have it settled and there would have been nothing left, because she was very angry when we sold the stocks he had and put them into mutual funds because they were bleeding money. She viewed them as something her F bought, and they should have been kept that way. After all was settled, later on B & SIL’s financial guy told them they should sell some of their AT&T stock and diversify. She refused because her D had worked there 35 years, buying some and being given some. So they lost $ on that deal. H & I haven’t really discussed what we’d do if she comes to us looking for $$, as we don’t really have it to spare. One of the problems that is starting, is that both she and my B call my mother to vent, and it is starting to drive her crazy. I told her that she has caller ID and that she doesn’t have to talk to anyone she doesn’t want to at the time.</p>
<p>My mom is alive and well at 84 but my dad died about 10 years ago. He was mostly abusive, both physically, emotionally and mentally, and had severe emotional and rage problems himself. So I did not feel the loss like most people would feel. Interesting about the German custom - my grandmother was German and we went every Sunday to visit the graves of her parents and husband. </p>
<p>Bears - They were married first, introduced to each other by my cousin. I had not met her family because I was in Maine and everyone else was in Chicago. We were both ushers at their wedding, and hit it off immediately.</p>
<p>We always said that if my D and his S married each other, they would share 25% of their genes instead of 12.5% shared by regular first cousins and their kids would all have 3 eyes.</p>
<p>let me get this straight
- her D = your FIL, because she is your H’s sister
- your FIL is the one worked at AT&T 35 years
- both your SIL =your mom’s DIL and your B = her son call up and vent on your mom, is your B’s mom and your SIL’s MIL
- your dad died but you did not fall apart like your SIL </p>
<p>now
- what happened to her own mom = your MIL?
- where and how old is this S of your B=your nephiew?
- any more kids? pets?
- how does your cousin introduced them relate to you? mom’s dide or dad’s side? could s/he possibly take any responsibility on this after 24 years? =could your SIL show up at their door?
- how your mom used to like/ liking her DIL? Is she taking side?
- what was the breed the dog that died? </p>
<p>I just watched DVD “Greenberg”
[Greenberg</a> (2010) - IMDb](<a href=“http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1234654/]Greenberg”>Greenberg (2010) - IMDb)
and reading “Zeitoun”
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitoun_(book)[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitoun_(book)</a>
dead parent, functioning but neuro, siblings, dog…
common people’s lives are tricky enuff thing.</p>
<p>Have been out of sorts, under the weather and it took quite awhile to catch up on the news. Just wanted to extend my best wishes as this SIL stuff gets sorted out, sounds pretty extreme and would be difficult without the additional relationship issues. Good luck to all 4 of you, it sounds very complicated and worrying about your SIL. Sending good thoughts everyone’s way…good luck.</p>
<p>redbug:
I read your post yesterday but just don’t know how to share.
If I were you, I will imagine your SIL to be your own sister. This can help you still have your base about how far you can support her, in the mean time that will help you to feel her pain and your H’s pain. Keep your family healthy will always be the priority.
Sorry, it is so hard to say …</p>
<p>B&D, yes to all the first statements. You are reading that correctly. To answer rest of questions:</p>
<ol>
<li> Her mom aka my MIL died in 1996.</li>
<li> Nephew is 22, just graduated college, 1 year older than my D</li>
<li> B adopted SIL’s 2 kids from her previous marriage. They were 7 and 3 at the time. They have one dog who my SIL doted on. She has agreed to leave dog with my B since she has no clue where she’d going. Will be hard to take the dog if she goes into an apt, as it is a Rottweiler.</li>
<li> Don’t know how my cousin refers to us, as she lives in Michigan and never sees either of us. No one could take responsibility for this, and it is highly unlikely she would show up on her dooorstep.</li>
<li> My mom likes SIL, and they have gone on trips together, etc. SIL has a very big heart and is kind. She is not taking sides either.</li>
<li> The dog that died was a Springer Spaniel.</li>
</ol>
<p>SIL will always be welcome at our house and my mom’s, and altho I know things can change, right now I cannot see us becoming enemies.</p>
<p>And since I found out the table and chairs were were worth $500 (it’s Cushman Colonial made in Bennington, VT), I have decided to keep it. Thought she’d pitch a fit, but turns out she has decided to take the dining set from their house. My B had told her she could have whatever she wanted, and thought it strange she didn’t take that in the first place. So all is well for the moment.</p>
<p>redbug
thanks for the details which made me yet more nosy
- if she doesn’t know where she is going and assuming she is going to live by herself, why would she want bulky dining set?
- where is her older kids, now what, 30 and 27? are they close to their mom=your SIL = could be counted on any mental, financial support?
- she was OK when her mom died, yes?
- I would take living dog instead of dining table or dead dog’s ashes.
our dog helped me cope and gave reason to get up and go out (to walk her). I have a friend in bigger mess but kept her dog (pure blood german shepherd) thou taking her to NYC apartment to the other was totally unreasonable, she made effort to make it happen, could be more than anything she ever did in her life.</p>
<p>feelings and money don’t go together.
remember my bubbly SIL who gave beer to minors?
I asked if my kid can stay with them for this summer in their extra den while I sort things out while he could be taught how to drive (horrors!!) at where actually roads are safer and empty plus her super patient H or grown S=my golden nephew could be coaching.
her bubble bursted just like that.
I was going to pay his keeps and had back-up plans B to Z but did not say so upfront because I wanted to know what she would say.
she said she HAVE to talk to her H=my BIL (the bearish boxer shorts guy) and haven’t heard from her for a month.
she’d been calling every other week or so at my job to ask how her baby(my kid) is and to update about her dog (beagle) and kids.
far as I know she made every decision about household herself initially and her H would done whatever she wanted. </p>
<p>I can’t help but count back all Halloween costumes I made free and in hurry for her kids, all my kid’s birthday check from them never gotten cashed but never questioned, her grandma’s passing away money that every grandkids split fairy, should be used for pay back what they had owed my H but instead became their disneyworld vacation and flat screen TV.</p>
<p>when money (however puny) is involved, feeling gets cold so easy. it is harder in families, esp siblings and in laws.
we should be happy to have each other (and the dog) but, so there…
should I call my SIL myself (I almost never do since she insists I call her job because she is often bored there) and tell her to forget about it, all is well???</p>
<ol>
<li> She wants dining set now after I told her no to kitchen table.</li>
<li> Oldest D is nearby, with 2 kids and less than cooperative H. My B has suggested SIL move in with her for the time being until she gets on her feet. The D says “she wouldn’t get any peace and quiet there”. From 2 kids that she watches all summer for free anyway? SIL paid D to take her to doctor for minor surgery appt (D had to miss work for 1 day, losing one days pay) , after D had free child care all summer. B was mad D took the money, but D needed it badly to pay bills so he relented - he’s actually softhearted here and there! Oldest S is in Air Force and cannot take mom with him. Youngest son just graduated college and is living with farm family in exchange for room and board while he goes to seminary/bible college.</li>
<li> She was OK, but starting to unravel a bit. Not very noticable, but things weren’t quite the same.</li>
<li> We were floored when she said she was leaving dog behind - very strange, as she doted on that dog like a kid.
Yoiu could probably call her and ask for decision, tell her you need to know so you can make other plans if necc. Might put her on the spot but you deserve an answer too. Money is a funny thing, makes things very complicated.</li>
</ol>
<p>Bears hi call the sil. Sorry I haven’t been communicating. Crazy summer!!!</p>
<p>do I have to?
last we talked, I said
“I can call (name of her H) now and ask myself, you don’t have to say anything. do you want me to do that?”
she went, like
" NO NO NO NO don’t do that, I will tell him!"
I mean, her H is the one asked my H for the loan before. now she knows that I know that she knew I knew.
It is sad how paycheck-to-paycheck-living non degree working class families have to do.
I’d say, then, don’t spend it for nail salon or keg of beer. but that’s life, and there is always credit cards. don’t mind how hi the interest rate is as long as monthly payment stays minimum. why worry, no?</p>
<p>you can see that I have nothing to say, if I had a choice.
yet yet
I do envy her sometimes.
OK
maybe just to say hello and tell her I’ve extended our apartment lease till his launch.
and leave it at that.</p>
<p>Oh boy do I know how families get weird when money is involved…</p>
<p>First, advice to BandD,…definitely call SIL and keep things friendly. It is too bad that she has failed to respond to your rare and quite easy request to meet to help with your son’s transition to college. However, it sounds like life at home may be more complicated than you know and maybe not the best place for your S anyway. Still, family is family and you just have to try to remain friends and keep communication open because otherwise life gets a little lonely. Try and laugh at the weirdness…here is my summer drama to show you how weird money makes things.</p>
<p>OK…my husband’s second brother’s second son is getting married in Las Vegas in a few weeks. The groom (my H’s nephew) was the ringbearer at our wedding and is my H’s godchild (first communion)…these links are important in Ecuador. So he is a more special nephew and I just assumed we should go to the wedding. He is the first grandchild for my MIL to be married. She is recovering from two cancers so when the wedding was first announced in December, she decided it was critical to attend since she may be dead before she sees another wedding (her view, not mine). </p>
<p>So MIL waits to hear about plans, we wait to hear about plans…time passes…no announcement on when BIL and family are going to get to LV, where they are staying, anything other than the date/time of the wedding. No invitation to travel together is extended to my MIL who needs a wheelchair and assistance for long trip. I learn that the other grandparents have booked travel with SIL and other nephews to fly to CA and drive to LA. They have booked hte other grandparents at the hilton…all found out through other sources…my MIL still has not been consulted about her plans or offers to help her.</p>
<p>Time passes…I confront SIL in April visit…please give details…still vague except they now have their flights booked without offering my MIL to help her plan her travel. ****ed off…I book her a ticket to DC to stay with us for a week and then, now late and expensive, book a trip for all of us to Vegas for about 5 days - 2 hotel room package. It never crossed my mind that my MIL should pay for the las vegas part of the trip. I figure, we will have a vacation and I WILL see the Hoover dam and the kids WILL see the grandcanyon. The wedding and reception are just a nice break and meal in the middle of vacation. Worried about my MIL travelling home alone, I change my son’s ticket to Ecuador incurring an additional $400 so that he can be on the same flight as her. </p>
<p>I called SIL to offer condolences for recent death of her uncle. I ask where they are staying for the wedding…hesitates before telling and then shows relief when I tell her what time we are arriving because they will be at the hairdressers at that time (no need to invite us to that little ritual). There is no mention of rehersal dinner, brunch day after, NADA…just come to the wedding and no plans to see us or MIL any other time. </p>
<p>It is all clear…they didn’t want us to stay near them because then they may have to invite us to a meal or for drinks…I find out from another nephew that they have table assignments for the reception; I ask where we and mother in law will sit…they have not decided (they say). THe other grandparents will probably all be seated together at tables near the front and my MIL (grandma of groom) will be relegated to “wherever” along with us. I lost it…called nephew/groom, chewed him out and said that if he did not include his grandmother in photos, pre- wedding activities, etc. he would be in our black books for a very long time. When exactly was he planning to have the grandparents meet? He should find out if they were meeting to go to the wedding together and I would get his grandmother wherever she had to be for photos, etc.</p>
<p>Of course he said all the planning was being done by his mother and the bride’s family…I told him that this the moment to be a grownup at his own wedding and remember this is the woman who adores him and all his cousins, babysat him for years while his mother and dad went to work to pay for this XXXX wedding. Those parents are quite comfortable but incredibly cheap. This is the BIL who thought we shouldn’t help pay for chemo since he figured she was going to die from cancer anyway… BIL is shelling out to bring another son from spain with girlfriend, wife and son from Ecuador and then, to make it up to the remaining son who couldn’t get the visa for the wedding, he is taking that son to Havana two weeks after the wedding. </p>
<p>I gave my MIL a cleaned-up version of the situation…she laughed a little and said that this son was always the cheapskate and selfish…he wouldn’t even share a chocolate with her when he was little. She says she is happy just to see the wedding and have a vacation with us. I told her we could have our own little wedding event and ask all the other grandparents to come to the Mirage pool (topless you know…) where we are staying. She and I figure that even with just one breast she will still be the best looking grandparent. I will follow her example and just laugh (and make snide remarks from the crappy table we are placed at at the reception…).</p>
<p>wagwag I have to ask now
- who and what is the bride?
- what kind of family she is from?
- where and how they meet?
- is there any built up resentment? (your hi achieving H, white wife with brain, guts and beauty, so very well turned out bilingual kids)
- what is the reason this guy/his mom (is grandma’s DIL?) / his bride’s family mistreating poor grandma (and you) this badly?
is it illness (would she look obviously sick, in the way any small kid would stop, stare, say “what happened to you?” or ask “mommy what’s wrong with her?”)
We are once invited to seder hold by good minded family friend of ours and my kid (then 7, 8?) happened to sat next to this grandma with one eye. the other one is hollow, just drooping eyelid. I cringed and braced myself for unavoidable.
my kid did not say a word, but I could see the effort he is making from how he dug hole in the matzo ball with his spoon. It was tense, to me.
I know enough not point out and praised him afterward for his thoughtful effort.
It was all just uncomfortable, and was I glad to get out of the house.</p>
<p>family wise
there always action and reaction. is what I sort of figured after all my mess.
if I am the same kind of same sort of a woman as my SIL, i’d drink, laugh, get tattoo, paint nails and be BFF.
heck, I and my H still be together and happy go lucky.
I did not know well enuff about social, historical, economical dynamics in this country before it was too late. where anything is possible and everyone is immigrant but once one get comfortable, it is all forgotten and become us VS them.
I am her ‘them’. but the one who could be manipulated, easy ask for favors because I got no guts of fammom’s, and I care about my nephew and niece enuff to totally burn the bridge, they are the ones in the household I could have conversations about life that have nothing to do with food, weather or sex.</p>
<p>ahhhhh, fammom, what a story. By the “other grandparents” you mean the grandparents of the bride or the groom’s mother’s parents? Either way, it’s shocking! I like your attitude to have a nice vacation with the wedding as just a part of it. Rise above it all, crank up the AC, see a great show and enjoy yourselves.</p>
<p>Bears, you too! Your relationship with your niece and nephew sounds strong and meaningful. Clear things up with the SIL but only for their sake (and yours). Forget about her, she’s not worth it!</p>
<p>I read this story in the NY Times magazine a few years ago about custody issues. The main story was about a man who had been ordered to pay child support even though his wife had had an affair and their daughter was not really his! Then, she dumped him and married the biological father but the other guy still had to pay child support and take the kid on weekends and holidays! Guess what? The girl preferred HIM. The mother and bio father had won the money battle, but the other dad had won the girl’s heart. It was clear that she’ll call him Daddy, her kids will call him Grandpa, he will be the one walking her down the aisle, etc. In every important way he won. The money issue could burn a hole in your heart if you let it, or all that pettiness of small-minded people could as well. Remember that in all the important ways, you’ve won already.</p>
<p>Then, feel free to kvetch to sympathetic ears as often as you need to to retain your sanity and equilibrium!</p>
<p>Jeez Louise
You know I like to think my family’s the most screwed up, I mean I do have the SIL who criticized all her wedding gifts, it seems teapots even artisan ones aren’t appropriate, who knew, then theres the cousin who lives a hermits existence out in the woods but really who can top this stuff. You guys have really made me feel like my family’s a bunch of slackers, I certainly can’t match some of this stuff but I appreciate y’all putting it out there and sharing. So many questions, Bears covered some of them, but I sure do like that MIL of yours FAM, she sounds like she’s got her kid all figured out and I like her sense of humor, as well as yours. They’re the ones that are missing out. I think inviting the Grandmas over to visit at the pool would be a lot of fun. Can Bears and I hide in the bushes and take pix with our cell phone cameras?</p>
<p>Families sure are interesting! I’ve heard that most time we treat strangers better than family members, and it should be the other way around. Famm’s MIL sure has the right attitude anyway!</p>
<p>I’ll be the one with the SIL on the TV show “Hoarders”. I estimate it will take about 3 years before her money’s gone and her house is filled to the brim. She still hasn’t figured out that she needs to look for a job and no, the “Own your own vending machines and make $2000 a month” is not an option - altho she thought it was until she realized she didn’t have the right kind of car. Never mind that vending machines do not provide health insurance…</p>
<p>When I read back over the post I do see how horrible they seem. It isn’t quite that bad because I don’t think it is because they don’t like us or my MIL. It is hard to explain why they are doing this but I truly think the big thing is money…my BIL literally feels pain when a dollar leaves his pocket unless it is for his kids or wife, and even then I am sure he feels the sting. The other grandparents (groom’s maternal grandparents) live in Ecuador but are probably paying for most of their trip themselves since they are quite well off. Also, my SIL is very very close to her mother and they do everything together. I don’t know much about grandparents of the Bride but the mother of the birde emigrated to california years ago and she grew up across the street from my husband and his brothers…there were 4 girls in that house and 4 boys in my husband’s family so that the joke is that the families are finally merging. I also think that putting my MIL at a different table from the other grandparents may be based on the image it may present if they sat together. MIL, even after chemo and surgery, is a very regal yet charming and beautiful woman who will definitely make the other grandmas look dumpy and fumpy when she sits next to them. </p>
<p>My BIL and husband are not very close but they always have amicable interactions–lots of laughter–my BIL is actually one of the funniest people I know. He is very warm towards me and my kids but NEVER extends an invitation to us or kids that would cost him money. He definitely sees us as much better off than him but he is a very successful business owner. His wife works and has a good salary. They are not hurting. I think he interprets our generosity to family as us being rich rather than generous. He has no problem with us and other brother paying most of my MILs bills, supporting brother four (I call deadbeat BIL), paying tuition for deadbeat BILs kids, etc. Getting money from him has been like blood from a stone…</p>
<p>My SIL is also generally easy to get along with but even after 20 years it is the most superficial of relationships. There is a cultural void that is impossible to bridge and traditionally in Ecuador women only have strong friendships with mothers/sisters/cousins and, sometimes, school friends Forget machismo, Ecuador is matriarcal to the max. It has been a tragedy for her and my other SIL who have had only sons. Definitely my SIL envies me my daughter. She convinced BIL to try one more time after two boys (he thought too expensive to have 3 kids) and they got twin boys! SHe was seriously depressed after that pregnancy. Women rarely make new friendships outside of the family and NEVER share problems or worries outside of the family. So…I really can’t get to know her at a different level and neither can my MIL. MIL has friendly relationships with all her DILs, compadres (parents of her DILs) but they are not close. It is hard for her because she has been a widow for over 45 years, has only brothers and 9 grandsons (out of 11 grandkids). </p>
<p>Interestingly, I am much closer to my MIL than any of the other daughter-in-laws and she often says I am the “daughter that god gave her” later in life (her only daughter died in infancy). MIL is aging and now losing her female cousins/friends and Ecuador is a lonely place to be without daughters and grandaughters. It probably doesn’t help relations that I am so close to MIL despite living abroad --BIL figures that if she prefers me to other DILs I should probably support her as a daughter. I think so too, I suppose. So that is why I can laugh at the situation since I come out best in this bargain with a great MIL who loves me for my weird gringa self and not just because I am her son’s wife. Priceless.</p>
<p>It’s painful but not surprising to read the family stories here. Redbug is right about treating strangers better most of the time. No generational webs to unravel. But I have suspected karma at work at times with folks outside of my family. There have been some people that have come along in my life where I have been pulled into their orbit in the most intimate and dysfunctional ways and it takes me some time to realize “hey…this is not my family…I don’t have to be involved any more!”</p>
<p>We are about to travel to Florida for my Grandmother’s 90th birthday. We too have drama brewing. My father lives with my G. They have an L shaped ranch where they share a kitchen at the intersection of the L. My F has been married about 5 times…I think - hard to keep track. He is not currently married but 2 years ago he tracked down one of his old wives and started a relationship with her again. She is only a few years older than me. The last time they were together I was in college and he was her sugar daddy. She was also a big partier and the marriage did not last. Well, she still has substance abuse issues but my F took her in again any way, paid off her debt, her car and her dental work. (When I asked for some help with college tuition he didn’t even answer me back.) She is very volatile and argumentative and hits my dad. For that I say “ce la vie”. BUT she started going after my grandmother! My F had to call in the cops and get an order of protection. AND THEN after a while he let her move back in! </p>
<p>My B has made it a condition that he will not visit my F if the GF is around and she is not welcome to visit his house. I have not laid down that law but I haven’t visited in a long time so it is a mute point. My B and I want to be there for my G but we don’t know what to expect when we arrive in Florida. I usually stay at F’s. This time I got us a hotel room. B now is planning on doing the same. He feels he might have to leave Florida if she is there and wants an easy escape. If the girlfriend is there I think I will sit back and observe like I I usually do. My cousins whom I haven’t seen since I was a teenager will be there and I don’t want to miss this opportunity.</p>
<p>My father’s brother, G’s other son won’t be there since he hasn’t spoken to anyone in the family in about 20 years. His D will be there but not my uncle’s sons since one is dead from an overdose and one is in jail for MURDER!</p>
<p>You can imagine what it is like explaining all of this to my own kids. But they are older now and it is time they understood it all. I think it is good they get some perspective on what my H and I have created for them despite the influences around us. On my mother’s side things have also been crazy but not as criminal. The difference there is that people have been working on stuff, going to therapy and such, and relationships and gatherings have gotten better over the years. My H’s family is much more subdued. Stuff stays more underground which is not good but people are at least civil.</p>
<p>Anyway…summer is going along well here. S1 has been lifeguarding and doing his internship. The artist appreciates him and has started paying him hourly in addition to the travel and lunch expenses that they had originally agreed upon. He is learning Illustrator, coloring image files in layers and preparing canvases. </p>
<p>He signed up on Lynda.com to learn how to program in HTML/CSS. I highly recommend it as an affordable way to learn software and coding. He is also teaching himself mold making/casting on a small scale. H creates comics and S sculpted one of his characters…Robot Hippo, about 3 inches tall. We now have about 8 little Robot Hippos living in our house. What a difference from summers past when most of his free time was spent playing video games and H and I were worried he would remain a passive media consumer. </p>
<p>S2 is away staying at my mom’s for 3 weeks while he takes a creative writing intensive at Sarah Lawrence college. The male to female ratio looks to be about 1:5. I’m glad we couldn’t afford to have him stay in the dorms 
He will be a junior this fall and the college hunt will begin again. </p>
<p>PS. S1 is still with his high school GF. I don’t see any break up looming. Maybe they will get married someday? They are sooo comfortable with one another.</p>
<p>huff huff so it is not bad as it could have been, phew.
thanks for the cultural crash course of very maternal Ecuador.
now
- if bride’s mom emigrated to CA, suppose that’s where she met her H, bride’s dad?
- is this dad Ecuadorian?
- where is the bride raised? and (again) how do they meet?
- if nobody lived/met at CA anymore why are they getting married in Vegas? is it common practice?
- where would they go honeymoon and where are they gonna settle?
- why Havana for the other son? what’s there connecting to Ecuadorian culture/history?</p>
<p>mamambear you beat me!!
wagwagwag
your story made me tempted to tell about the other secret SIL= my H’s older sister noone talks about, and my H’s dad, said was dead so I thought he did, then he popped up at my kid’s babyshower @ my bubbly SIL’s.
He was all smile in XXXL Garfield T shirt and said
“I’m (H’s name)'s dad, I am the grandpa”
to that I said with my (really)bad English
" but I thought you are dead!?"
which everyone LOLed but my H.
later he pulled me aside and said
" have some respect to my dad. What I meant was, er, in my eyes, he is dead."
meaning, he did awful being their dad and left family etc etc.
anyways, I did have FIL and his then new wife (in matching XXL Garfield shirt), means my MIL? and their daughter, that’s what, my H’s step sister = my SIL = my kid’s another aunt.
that Garfield FIL passed away cancer after some drama! drama!! that resulted we have no idea and shouldn’t care (told by bubbly SIL so) what happened to his wife or D, is only couple years older than my kid and I actually liked and care.
secret SIL is still in secret, but her two kids, that is what? my kid’s cousins surfaced here and there during parties being still live in the area where bubbly SIL is.
no one has HS degree. no one is debit free. no one is clean sleet recorded.
everyone is happy and drunk.</p>
<p>I didn’t call my SIL yet.
she is the last person in the universe to know about CC but I feel funny now (chickens and bears)
but
it feels good to vent. and to know that I am not alone in this…</p>