<p>For sure not my family, D’s cousin (H’s side) graduated from art school in China and worked for game company for 8 years, She is a project manager in the end…
D got a lot ADVICE from her. Like focus on fine art not commercial …
Her art school friends, now making big money and she is regret about her own choice and now want to encourage her little cousin to not follow her path.
“come on, it is not easy”, I am thinking that in my head …
It is so funny, most of H’s family are doctors but this generation, no doctor at all and two artists!</p>
<p>My H’s paternal family was in the printing business. So no fine art in those genes but a facility with machines and process. H’s grandfather invented a press to produce adhesive labels…think little stickers on the bottom of lipsticks. Also coupon labels…the kind that you can instantly use that fold out of the main label. On my side we find the hairdressing gene. My g. grandfather came over from Italy and started a beauty school in the Bronx. Both my G.M. and D were hairdressers. I can see these two streams coming together in my son’s pursuit of ID. A bit of a stretch but there is something I think.</p>
<p>As for S2…he remains a mystery. We visited Bard and Vassar today. He ended the day saying he doesn’t know if college is for him. He says that it all feels too coddling…held back from “real” life. Why waste four years in a bubble when you could be out there using those long years grappling with DOING something directly. Problem is he doesn’t say what that something is.</p>
<p>Hi FAMMoM
I love geneaology. My Mom came from a little town in Germany and her uncle had traced her family’s roots back to the 1400-s, how cool is that!! Whenever the kids had the family tree thing for a school project they were all set. Back in 2003 we went to Ontario, Canada to trace my paternal grandfather’s ancestry and Quebec to trace my paternal grandmother’s – that was really cool too. The kids searched the grave yard for the family plot and pulled turf off the gravestones that were sunk into the ground in order to take pictures. The outcome of all that was that I created a book and gave a copy to my Mom and my four siblings with all the many varied branches of the family in it – I scanned old family photos, so those were in there too. I would have given my eye teeth for some old letters from my spinster great-great-great aunts. Our family has a long line of spinsters, often several in each generation. The Quebec arm of the family was particularly interesting, I remember one family where almost the entire family (large family with nine children) was wiped out within a couple of days – only the father and one kid survived. I don’t know if it was a fire, an illness, an Indian attack… a mystery!</p>
<p>As far as artists in the family go, my Dad dabbled a bit. His uncle, though, was an artist who made a living making signs, and my Dad’s cousin (the son of the brother of the artist) was a fine artist who was apparently able to make a living doing art-- in Santa Fe, NM, I think. My great-great-great grandfather in Ontario was a carriage maker and did beautiful altar carvings for the village church. On my Mom’s side, artistic talent (as far as I can tell) was limited to art collecting. I dabble in this and that, never seriously, just for fun. I collect art supplies for fun (just ask my daughter). The last art classes I took were botanical drawing classes at the local arboretum – D1 joined me on those Saturday mornings. I think that the botanical drawing classes greatly improved her observational and technical skills. Life is too crazy these days to take the time to take another class. Maybe at some point when Mom’s taxi service isn’t under constant demand.</p>
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<p>Hehe, this is where my detective work ended… One of these women was an ancestor in the Trois-Rivieres region. I loved the comment about the better looking women getting off the boat in Quebec City, which is why the women in that city are ‘better looking’ than the women in Montreal and Trois-Rivieres.</p>
<p>wait wait so your dad’s side were married to one of them daughters?
and he get first pick?
good thing he had good taste. like, didn’t chose them from width of hipbone for easy childbirth.
so Luis XIV did some good deed after all.
awww Quebec
Cirque du Soleil.
my dog owning friend’s past vacation was to Quebec and he got slide show of family as a screen saver and man, lovely. entire family, include kids held camera and area of interests varies greatly, dad shops/roadside signs, mom flowers and babies, kid 1 people making faces kid 2 mountains vistas (my guess)
sorry Gmom
grave digging visual was Harry Potter @ Godric’s Hollow.</p>
<p>drae S2
join the force
come to brokeback mountain, or join the powwow.
he should at least consider some from “Colleges that change lives”
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tho I can see that
I should warn. you should not do Bard and Vassar together-sh if you can help it.
they are close and convenient for families but them together somewhat turn “alternative” kids off… as of “is this it am I gonna get? is it worth the time/ money/my fabulous un-dug potential?”
I adore Vassar (hated Bard) but hey, what to do?
didn’t have numbers in the end anyway,-no brainer.</p>
<p>fammom
so shoes are covered, what about dress?
she haven’t got any shopping days til home field advantage…</p>
<p>I haven’t followed much lately but Yankees lost to Detroit at game 5. bottom of ninth 3-2 Tigers 2 out winning run at base A-Rod strikes out.
I am happy for folks in Detroit, and phantom of Ty Cobb (my crush)
why I was hocked on baseball was it’s so like life. no predictivity. chance meeting with pitcher who won’t ever know how many throws he is gonna have do, to bat who is sensitive to what he ate for lunch, weather, wrinkle on the batting gloves, fans.
anything could happen at any moment. it really doesn’t matter peewee league or major league.
no amount of genes, practice, talent(really) payroll, popularity would set complete rules
and if you hit that one, when no one thought he could, euphoria!!! to the boys of summer and parents, friends, coaches, neighbors.
this goes back to “try sports anyways” approach of parenting.
now
who is going to be fired from pin-stripes?</p>
<p>Gmom, there’s a similar story in my Dad’s family involving an ancestor who was shipped off from France with her younger sister to be a bride in New Orleans. They came from the poorhouse of La Rochelle and it seems that a whole bunch of them (all female) were put on board, age 14 and up. I wonder how much was the carrot and how much the stick? </p>
<p>Other ships at this time (1721 or so) also held people sent because they were illegal tobacco vendors, illegal salt vendors, vagrants, women sent under “lettre de cachet” from the king, “members of the company”, soldiers, etc. It wasn’t just Australia!</p>
<p>My Dad has earlier ancestors who went to Canada, but they all went to Grand Pre and Port Royal so they probably came as farmers. Their descendants were all eventually exiled and ended up in Louisiana as well. We don’t know as much about my Mom’s family, but some came from Italy, touring with an opera company in the orchestra. No artists that I know of except a distant cousin of H’s who is a contemporary photographer. I’ll keep silent on her name, since it reveals his!</p>
<p>Mail order brides even before mail…or email…or internet dating. Funny how humans still find new ways to find partners when there is a limited local pool of candidates.</p>
<p>Those old systems of shipping girls accross oceans to meet unknown men sounds barbaric but it solved a lot of problems including limited gene pool. Certainly my H’s father’s family that was stuck in a little mountain town could have benefitted from some mail order brides or husbands…D also didn’t want to share with her classmates the paternal side of the family because she was embarrassed by all the first cousin marriages (3 that I know of) from the descendents from that town. H’s great grandparents were first cousins, and two of his aunt/uncle pairings are cousins–one marriage resulting in truly horrific genetic problems for their kid (deceased). The town is treated like we treat west virginia–same kinds of jokes but marrying cousins is not considered incest nor is it illegal. </p>
<p>Interestingly, the younger generation of that family has had some success with the internet meet and marry. One second cousin, terribly injured and scarred ina car accident used the internet to meet and then, once in love through text exchanges, share photo and now happily married to a girl from Argentina with 3 kids. Another met her husband who flew to Ecuador from ANDORRA to ask for her hand in marriage and whisked her back to the Pyranees…I met this couple when they came to the wedding another second cousin who lived in switzerland and was marrying his internet bride from Argentina. All three couples are moving into their 7th year of marriage or more!</p>
<p>or Newzealand…
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now I go dancing on the signature tune.
1993, eh? gawd… how old is Anna Paquin now?</p>
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<p>Anna Paquin is a live and well and starring in “True Blood” on HBO which everyone in my family loves, except me. I don’t even know if she is a vampire or not!</p>
<p>did she ever gone to college? or I am mixing up with Olsen twins?</p>
<p>of course wikipedia knows everything… gawk! Columbia! what is it with actors with Ivies!!
and step mother of two by secret marriage, and now coming out as bi.
drama! drama!!
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<p>Nothing against the actors, but I’d rather see Art Spiegelman’s kids at the Ivies. Either group is better than the politicos though!</p>
<p>according to that^Anna lasted a year, so was Hemione (I know that’s not her real name but) Olsen twins at NYU the same, I guess one need to be sort of declining or shriveling stage to make it thru?
then there is Natalie Portman…
I was wondering what happened to skating Hughes sisters after Sarah to Yale, Emily to Harvard.
what do you call them, sportico?</p>
<p>I forgive the Spiegelman girl, Stuyvesant test is 100% meritocracy. decided by on-site test score only. She paid due. and dad get to let whole city/world know about it in his 9/11 comics by drawing tell-tale details of the school in the part when freaked out parents’d go get their D who just started HS that year.
anyhow I am sure Dad’s name helped Yale part. Stuy grads are basically all qualified to go to Ivies, but of course not everyone can go, so GC would make quota for each school and try to stir away lesser(could mean anything. not only scores and grades, of course) students from applying to bump up their results.
the baby brother is in bit of question, UNIS halfway then St. Ann’s leeks something was up in early teen years. but I kind of liked what he said at the interview, Brown would serve him well.(and he is darn cute, big plus)
I am assuming both are full pay. After all that Vladek Spiegelman’s savings helped them, or NYer/comic art-ing could pay off if you hit it good, even only that once and refused franchising/cashing in at the highest of popularity.
^^^ you can see that now I love celebrities esp. when they got local school aged kids.
like, Madonna, Spike Lee, Julianne Moore’s kids are going to school with someone like my kid.
Not that I could eat their food or anything, but someone(not nanny)‘d have to come to parent-teacher conference, Ms.Spike Lee would come to PTA all dolled up.
It’s great that famous people are still people who got to have to deal with kids’ issues still, at least in some degree.
there was in parents forum I said this and that about “cool” parent and legit “red plastic cups” in frat parties.
no parents are “cool”
kids today don’t even know who Madonna is.</p>
<p>Remember Debi Thomas? Med school after Stanford, she definitely is multi-talented. </p>
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<p>I saw your red plastic cup post Bears. Those parent’s forum people are not worthy. Kind of you to take time to try to educate them! </p>
<p>It’s interesting though that you can be a slightly cool parent to your kid’s friends. Several of them have contacted my on facebook, much to the chagrin of my daughters. I may be getting an edited view of their content, but I’m touched that they want any contact at all. Of course, Grandma gets friended by everyone!</p>
<p>OK OK no parent out of artforum is cool.
someone said in there “cool” means your kid’s friends can feel safe to talk to. In that regard, you must be really cool.
while all I thought of was (from my post in the thread)
“why do you think she is the “cool mom” to other kids? who says?
is she skinny and lithe like teenage girl?
dress nice?
skin taut wrinkleless teeth white minty breath?
got money, nice job, car, what?”</p>
<p>I am hopelessly superficial. I have to SEE it.</p>
<p>D1 was sitting at the table working on her latest jigsaw puzzle and I was sitting on the couch channel surfing at around 9pm last night when I stumbled upon the new season of Work of Art on Bravo. D1 was immediately thrilled and bounced over to the couch to watch TV with me. Manga girl put some face time in too. It sure seemed like they were starting with more people than last year, but maybe I’m just mis-remembering last year. This season’s crop seem older than last year. The self portraits were interesting, I particularly liked the one that was made out of crayons stuck on end (I forget whose that was). The first challenge was to take some kitchy art and remake it in their own image. I remember the first challenge last year was when the artists were paired up and had to do a portrait of their partner. D1 related to poor Lola who couldn’t decide which kitsch piece to pick and then couldn’t decide what to so with it…and spent most of the show kind of aimlessly mulling things over. So it was cool that she ended up being one of the three best in the challenge. My personal favorite is ‘sucklord’? Who took a poster of Gandalf from Lord of the Rings and made a Gandalf action figure – he was in the bottom three and I was worried he’d be eliminated. Anybody who is a LOTR fan is going to be a favorite of mine, so I’m going to root for him. I’m the one who dragged my family to see the movie ‘Second Hand Lion’ or something like that because the debut of the Return of the King trailer was supposed to be shown… and when the theater DIDN’T show it, I went to the manager and complained and got my money back for all five tickets (the manager said she’d never heard of someone coming to the theater to see a trailer before, lol). Then I dragged them all to Boston to see the Lord of the Rings museum exhibit featuring props/costumes from the movies.<br>
So there’s a deaf artist from Malaysia, a gay artist, a cute french guy (he got eliminated, but all the girls were ga-ga over him), the token black guy who did his ‘race statement’ which landed him in the bottom three too, an installation artist, a weird woman who does viscera (eww), I wish I remembered the names better from last season – the girl that was kind of loopy and far-out that was in the final three last season – what was her name? Lola was a little bit like her but without the funky wardrobe (so far as I could tell), there’s another female artist that does a lot of work dealing with sex…there’s an elementary school art teacher… that’s about all I remember. There is some chick who was a hit and run victim in real life and just learned to walk again.<br>
I’m looking forward to Wednesday evenings with D1 now!</p>
<p>D1 (or you) should be in it, if I had my own way.
I can see from the rough profile of contestants that they wanted to be somewhat more art-y cred, so don’t have to make one kid who is cute and could actually draw be the winner of all. (I haven’t seen entire shows last season, just me doing Bearsdogsh)</p>
<p>Pls keep reporting Gmom, I am sure it is so much better hearing from you than seeing the actual show. some things are better heard not seen.
what happened to the artmommy who furiously defended her hometown heroine (last of the three girl with cotton candy, ponies and pukes) and other artist posters HATED the show with passion…
aww time flies.
yeah
you should audition for next season, It will come before we know it, no?</p>
<p>for now, these would have to do for us.
what sad is that my kid is not here to come with me… not even for live (I mean animated?) action Tintin if he won’t be back in time
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