Agnostic & bad public school-- please help w/private school choice

<p>^^^ Good point toledo. I think we were the biggest influences on our children prior to college. Their middle and high schools were not ideal (their elem was) and we did lots of other stuff to enrich their lives and they turned out just fine, are happy adjusted high achievers, went to really good colleges of their choosing and all is good. It is OK if one’s public school is not super great. There are ways to work with the school to meet the kids’ needs and ways to supplement their schooling outside the school day and in summers. Their middle and high school did not define their main influence. I think we did far more. </p>

<p>Really this is not such a super big deal. As I said, we didn’t even have a choice of where to send our two children to school. Public was the only option. Some where we live have sent their kids to boarding schools for 9-12 but that was not anything we’d ever consider or could afford. I went to public school and my kids went to public schools that many on CC probably would think were not so hot and really, they’ve turned out great if I must say so. There were many things we did not like about our middle school and some things about our high school as well (the middle school was the worst link in the chain in our school system) and I never said it was all rosy as it was far from it but that is when parents and students can advocate to address individual needs. You don’t have to sit back and say, “this is not working,” but go in and make a difference. We did. Our kids did not follow the normal path and we created change. That is also an option. Nobody said to “settle” at your public school…try it out…work with the school to address whatever your son needs. People do that all the time who have no other school options. It really is not SO bad.</p>

<p>I’m glad to see this discussion has moved from debating the virtues of the various schools to debating the whole process OP is going through. I think she is vastly over thinking things, and I see no value in shlepping an 11-year-old from place to place, making him miss the first few days week of school. I would never expect a child of that age to be able to offer any valuable input about a school after a one-day visit; this is the kind of decision a parent makes FOR a child, using the parent’s own skills and judgment, and one that should have been made months ago. If OP only became aware of the perceived deficiencies of the public school last week, she should have deferred this decision until next year. Even a crummy 6th grade academic experience is of little importance in the scheme of things, and children are still growing and changing so much at this age that it’s very hard to predict where they will fit in best over the next three years.</p>

<p>MommaJ, you make some good points about what she might do next, but I think you’re a bit harsh on the OP here:</p>

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<p>The OP (original poster) who started this thread went over all that territory in other posts. She described – twice – how scholarships and opportunities became available to her over the summer. Also her husband’s employment was restored after a layoff. Therefore she had the resources to consider an alternative to her public school. </p>

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In fairness, please read the thread again. It is clear that this is not her situation.</p>

<p>p3t, you are correct…the OP said this all came up over the summer and explained why. So, I truly get that. That said, I think it would have been best to have arrived at a decision by the first day of classes, even if not an ideal amount of time to make the decision.</p>

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<p>Ask yourself this: are you prioritizing in the best interest of your son? Are you projecting your “feelings” or using logic?</p>

<p>^^^If OP stated she wanted an education that doesn’t confuse her son scientifically…didn’t some posters (or I think it was the OP herself?) mention on this thread that the Lutheran school teaches creationism? And if so, why is the Lutheran school still on the table when that goes against your selection criteria?</p>

<p>chilit, I have no problem if a parent doesn’t want their kid in a school that goes against her religious beliefs. That is a right as a parent of a minor. What I don’t get with the OP is how she is considering religious schools that are not her own religion and the fact that she is agnostic. I could never do that.</p>

<p>I have read this whole thread and hope that things are going well for the OP and her son. I think it is fine to take one’s time selecting a middle school and don’t think there’s any harm in taking the first week of school to do that. </p>

<p>A few thoughts though- I would caution against putting the child in a position where they must choose a school- that’s too much responsibility for a 6th grader. Too much pressure. I am all for hearing the child’s feelings and desires, but bottom line, the parent has to make the decision. </p>

<p>I would also not recommend attendance at a religious school, given the various issues already raised. I wouldn’t always be opposed to someone of a different faith attending a different religion’s school, (my daughter attended a Jewish pre-school and we are very Catholic). But I do think the middle school years are the beginning of identity forging and given the conflicting feelings in the home regarding the practice of religion, attending a school where religious practice is part of the deal would seem problematic. And I definitely would not recommend that a former Catholic or someone who has issues with the faith place their child in a Catholic school. The religious identity of a school has to be accepted, or at least not criticized, so that the child has a proper respect for the institution they are attending.</p>

<p>Pipmom, your points in the third paragraph are very valid ones, in my view.</p>

<p>I agree also- to my understanding for both Catholic & Hebrew schools have important coming of age ceremonies in the middle school years- and wouldn’t it emphasize that he was an outsider?
Not what a middle schooler needs, IMO.</p>

<p>IMO, what a middle schooler needs is a safe place to learn where there is no fear blocking his path. In that sense, I actually think the boy’s time in each school will tell him whether he can breathe there. Any of these schools is ready to have him; it’s perhaps a decision made on an intuitive level at this time, rather than a rubric or by logic. Where does he feel okay? He’s not deciding his school by himself, but the OP seems to want to know he’ll feel okay and accepted and able to learn. A student, especialy one with social confidence as he has (not shy), does know that after a day in a MIDDLE school setting. It’s a missing piece of input for the OP and I think it blocked her choosing sooner.</p>

<p>Good luck to you.</p>

<p>Middle school is tough socially. It just is. I have seen the nicest kids do some pretty mean things in middle school. They are not mean kids, they can just do mean things. It honestly does get better in high school. This is not specific to public or private school. It is simply their age. It isn’t a factor of a school administration that will not allow ‘that behavior’. It’s going to happen to some degree. Honestly, smaller schools can sometimes be worse. If you are in class with the same 28 students every year, there isn’t much room to meet new people or move past those who simply are not too nice.</p>

<p>Due to rezoning my students all went to different middle schools. Some I liked more than others. One I didn’t like, however my student was excelling and happy. I kept my feelings to myself and he did just fine. One of my students required a good deal of parental advocating. This would have been the case at a public or private school.</p>

<p>My oldest had a hard time in middle school. He didn’t fit in. We were worried about him going to a large high school. He absolutely blossomed. He found there were other kids just like him. He didn’t care if he had a class where he didn’t have a close friend. He knew he was going to eat lunch every day with 5 or 6 good friends. Private school does not insulate your student from being picked on, not by a long shot.</p>

<p>They have all gone to the same very large public high school and done fantastic. It is a place where anyone can find a friend. There are students whose grades are off the charts, athletes, math & science wizards (who would have been called geeks), physically challenged students who are included in every way and treated with respect by faculty and students. There are dancers, musicians, artists. Walk down the hall during class changes and you’ll see PDA of all kinds, hetero and gay. It simply is no big deal. The parents have issues. The kids do not. The teachers do not.</p>

<p>Moving back to the private high school consideration… the classes are smaller and there can be less acceptance for students who are different in their talents, background, or interests. When there are 50 students in your class and two are gay, two are african american, three are hispanic, and one is muslim, it can be harder than being in a class of 750 where there is simply more diversity. In a class of 50, where many may be high achievers. If you are one of 10 students that has a (gasp) 3.0 gpa, it can be hard. If you are not of the same socioeconomic background than other students in the private school it can be hard as well. Public schools have a broader range.</p>

<p>Many families choose privates for a variety of valid reasons and those students do very well. I am not disparaging privates. My point being middle school is tough socially, public and private. Although it’s our instinct as a parent, that’s not a great reason to uproot your student.</p>

<p>Lastly, looking further to public high school, do not be discouraged if they may not have an activity you may want such as science olympiad. College resumes shine when a student has taken initiative and leadership to start a program at their school.</p>

<p>It’s wonderful that the public schools in your town are like that, but I’m wondering if you live in the depths of rural upstate New York as the OP apparently does. I have a first cousin who’s lived up there for decades (he teaches at one of the less well-known SUNY’s), and from what he tells me, it’s an entirely different universe from what the words “New York” seem to signify to most people in the rest of the country.</p>

<p>I apologize for trying to portray public schools in any type of positive way. I’ll crawl back to the shadows where non-privates belong here on cc.</p>

<p>OP, I’ve read the first couple of pages of this thread but not all of it, so I apologize for any repeats.</p>

<p>First, my children have been in Waldorf Schools from the beginning (through HS) and we’ve been very happy. One D was accepted at an Ivy league school last spring, but chose differently. The other D is going into science. The school is strongest in the humanities but science and math are covered well. At our school, the science classes are “evidence based” and the students are taught to observe first and foremost. </p>

<p>The math is taught at a different, and later schedule than our local public schools. For this reason, we had both girls visit a math tutor for SAT/ACT prep. He was impressed with the math curriculum at their school and told me that our (very highly regarded) public schools teach math at such a rate that 90% of students can only memorize the concepts - not understand them. However, if your son had to leave any school after 8th or 9th grade and transfer to another, make sure that the math levels are compatible or easy to make compatible. </p>

<p>There is no hidden religious agenda although the movement has a Judeo-Christian base, in a way. Most schools (like many others) are making every effort to diversify.</p>

<p>Second, have your son visit each school, and sit in with the kids who will be in his future class!!! If the classes are small, and you have social concerns about your son, this is very crucial. Having a set of kindred spirits, or at least a lack of idiot bulliers, is essential and should be one of the most important factors. </p>

<p>I am a “recovering Catholic” also and understand your discomfort. A lot of non Catholics sent their children to some very excellent Catholic schools and colleges. They can laugh about the things that make us cringe! It’s one more aspect of finding a place with a good fit.</p>

<p>Ok all, I am going to try to sum up what happened this week.</p>

<p>The Jewish school, Lutheran school, and public school, started Tuesday. The Jewish school also had half a day Wednesday, and was off the entire rest of the week. The Catholic school started Wednesday. The Waldorf started Thursday, while the Jewish school was off. Son was supposed to see the secular school this coming Monday. So…</p>

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<li>The Jewish school: I took son to the Jewish school on Tuesday and the 1/2 day on Wednesday. We were both very warmly greeted by the staff on the way in. Son picked a bright blue kippa. The middle school has a wing of its own. Over the loudspeaker, the pledge is orated, then the national anthem, and then what sounds like a pledge of allegiance to Israel. After that, there are prayers in the cafeteria. My son was taken to the cafeteria during the prayers. However, I noted that many children stayed in the hall at their lockers, as did I. During that time, the science teacher came right up to me and introduced herself. She was very friendly. She told me that she is not Jewish, and that my son would be fine. I told her that I was concerned that he would not be accepted. She said that they have had many non-Jewish children, including a non-Jewish African-American child, and he was accepted. She was very nice. We parted with her giving my shoulder a squeeze.</li>
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<p>Then I met the math teacher, who turned out to be a former high school classmate. She is also non-Jewish. She told me that none of the teachers for the secular subjects are Jewish. There are many interfaith families. Prior to leaving, a parent came up and also introduced herself. At the end of the day, a child had given my son his phone number and an invitation to his pool party the next day. My son really wanted to go.</p>

<p>On the 2nd 1/2 day, my son was greeted by the party child and another little boy told my son that they play sports in the gym before school if he wants to come. After school, I took my son to the home with the pool party. Unfortunately, the party had been canceled due to weather, but the mother invited us into her home. While my son played, we sat in the kitchen, and she told me that she is French born Catholic, but that her husband is Jewish, and that they are raising their son as Jewish. While there, another school mother came. She was born in South America, also married to a Jewish man, raising the children as Jews. I had a very nice time with both women. On the way out, the French mom invited me to return, and gave me a hug on the way out. When we got home, there was a message on the phone from a different little boy, inviting my son to call him and perhaps play on Friday or Sunday.</p>

<p>I also met the school counselor/7th grade Hebrew teacher who was very nice. I told her that my son was coming from a low standard public, with no Hebrew, and she said that they would help him.</p>

<p>As for the religious aspect, my son said that during prayers in the cafeteria, the people sing, but he doesn’t know what, because it’s in Hebrew. He said that he went to a class that he did not know what it was. According to the schedule, it’s mishna. </p>

<p>If my son goes there, he would finish 8th grade with 9th grade math, 3 years of foreign language, and his 9th grade earth science complete. Their 8th grade students all scored superior on state science tests. This is a school that takes learning very seriously. </p>

<p>I’ve got to say, I’ve never gotten such a warm reception anywhere. Religion aside, I trust them with my son. All of this also made a very favorable impression on my son. As the week went on, he continued to express a preference for this school. The only negatives he said were that he wishes he could eat meat at lunch and that the bathrooms are written in Hebrew, and what if he accidentally goes in the girls’ bathroom (he apparently didn’t see the English on the open door).</p>

<p>2) On Thursday afternoon, we went to visit the Waldorf. This was their first day, but they insisted that I come in the afternoon, when there were no students. It was quite a drive and out in the country. My son asked me if I was taking him camping. We were greeted by the principal, who seemed very reserved. Didn’t crack a smile the whole time. I was taken to the teacher while the principal gave my son a tour without me. The teacher asked me if I had any questions and put a schedule in front of me to explain the day. I asked about a period of the day that had no easily identifiable purpose. She said that it was an open period where they’d sometimes have the kids rake leaves or do work on the school. I noticed that other than the 2 hour period dedicated to a subject, the rest of the day was basically handwork, art, music, and physical pursuits. She did not let me take the schedule with me to evaluate it. She also did not crack a smile and also seemed very reserved. The principal came back for me and left my son with the teacher. The principal showed me the handwork room and no other room of the school. She told me that if I had any questions, now was the time, because she had a faculty meeting to get to. I asked her how science is taught, and she said by observation. No further elaboration. The grounds are very nice, I could see my son playing outside, and their lunch is healthy. I want to like it. He’d certainly come out of there an excellent writer, since they don’t use textbooks. I also see value to the experiential learning and the creative thinking. The thought of my son prolonging his childhood in this environment seems appealing. But my feelings are very mixed. I don’t know that I can trust them with my son. Their lack of warmth bothered me. Given that this is a school that revolves around nature, I expected friendlier and more open people. They are supposedly not religious, which would give them an edge over the other schools, but given what I’ve read on the internet, I am not sure that I believe it. They are involved with anthroposophy. </p>

<p>3) I spoke to the science teacher at the Lutheran school on the phone. I asked him specifically about whether they’d teach evolution. He said “I will tell them 'This is what scientists believe, and when I discuss creationism, I will say this is what we believe.” I have a problem with the “WE believe”. Kind of shuts down discussion for the non-religious child, despite their flyer that that take all faiths. I sent my son to shadow with them on Friday anyhow, because of the other strengths of the school. My son said that in one class, a woman yelled at him to not come to her class without a book. When they went to art, the teacher did not show up, and all of the children had to return to homeroom and read. He said the lunch was a burger and he sat with a child. But after that visit, he said he still favors the Jewish school.</p>

<p>4) At the end of Friday, I went to the public school to pick up books and work just in case. School had started on Tuesday, but of course, there had been none.</p>

<p>5) The secular school principal wanted my son to come Monday, but admitted that financial aid is very depleted, and the amount of tuition is way out of my range. She wants to continue to work towards my son being a student next year.</p>

<p>6) If I don’t pick one of the private schools, my son loses his outside renewable scholarship that he just was notified of about a week ago, and I don’t expect to get it again. Other than the Lutheran school, the Jewish school, the Waldorf school, and secular school are not easy to get into. The Jewish school being the hardest. As stated, my son had to meet with the principal and he went through an application with both.</p>

<p>So what did your son think of his conversation with the Waldorf teacher?</p>

<p>I have seen some fairly good answers/opinions here - the problem is, the child has a reading/language issue, and that hasn’t been dealt with first!</p>

<p>No matter where you send him, if they don’t have a list of services/learning support <em>specific to a diagnosis</em> you will not get the appropriate reading help for him. No matter where you go, the public school will ALWAYS have a finger in the pie. <em>No</em> school <em>has</em> to deal with any kind of accommodation or service with any issue that is not <em>officially</em> diagnosed. Your husband having dyslexia does not mean that your son *does have dyslexia. It could be something entirely different. It could be a form of ADD which includes focusing issues, and have nothing to do with dyslexia. You need to know what LD it is, Specifically. It opens the doors to the $$$.</p>

<p>Speaking of $, usually if you go to the public school district next door, the fee they charge is their per head - i.e. if the district spends $9000 per student, that is what you pay for tuition. You should call the Business Office at the district to ask. </p>

<p>I taught in a Waldorf School for several years (hence the stealth S/N), and would never have sent my LD son to it. They generally are all run the same. While Waldorf technically can be very good for those who love the arts, if you look at their art work, it’s all the same. Same with the handwork, the music is all bland - nothing past Mozart, really, it brings out emotions. And they are only tolerant to a point. </p>

<p>They have no clue what to do with reading issues; truthfully they are more creative-writing-centered, they expect your child to already know how to write. If your child has a language issue, Waldorf teachers are not trained like “normal” teachers in how to deal with them. And, those main lesson books - the ones they write themselves - are going to be <em>extremely</em> difficult for him to deal with if he has any sort of reading/language problem. I have seen kids come and go in pretty much every grade level (we teachers travel through the grades with our classes) because they can’t get the hang of it and fall far behind very fast. </p>

<p>The high school kids in my Waldorf School read Chaucer in either 9th or 10th grade (I forget which). They don’t have reading issues, because they couldn’t and still succeed. And yes, they do go on to fine colleges. With LOTS of scholarships. The guidance counselors are exemplary.</p>

<p>I have never known a religious or private school that had good remedial etc. services, either, unless that was their specialty, and I have taught in several. They bring in <em>public</em> school employees or teachers from the local remedial/services agencies which the public schools use - THEY do the work with your child. Many private school teachers don’t have to be certified with ed classes so believe me, they do NOT know what they are doing. AND - any private school you are able to get services from - especially if they receive state tax dollars - will only give them to you when your <em>public school</em> identifies the LD and then write up the IEP with a team. </p>

<p>In post #90, 2collegewego suggested a neuropsych exam. I entirely agree with this. You write a letter to the principal of his current school requesting an evaluation, or an IEE, by a neuropsychologist. They have to pay for it. There is this little bit of legislation called IDEA which makes them do it. Also, your child will be able to get accommodations in his classroom if you do your homework, and you stick up for his rights. He may just need some additional instruction after school, or during a free period, something like that. Kids don’t get dumped into the resource room for something like this these days.</p>

<p>As for the religious instruction in the public school - what has stopped you from calling your local rep and complaining??? Their job is to assist the state in doling out money. It is ILLEGAL to teach only creationism. And tough if the administrators don’t like it when they’re busted. </p>

<p>Better yet, call the State Department of Education on them. (They won’t tell the school it was you, lol.) Ignoring the problem does not make it better for any kid who comes after yours, but making one or two or three phone calls could make it entirely positive for MANY children, INCLUDING yours. </p>

<p>Yes, it IS your battle to fight. Because others have said it wasn’t their battle, those who had the same problem before your son came along, and because they didn’t, look where he is/you are now.</p>

<p>About the Waldorf-- the only thing that my son said about the tour was that he did like the idea of the woodworking, but then said that making a wooden spoon would be too easy. They progress to a chair by 8th grade. He said that he wants to make a chair, not a spoon. </p>

<p>I was forthcoming at every school. I told both the teacher and principal that I’m concerned that with the program being writing-reliant, that my son would have difficulty. When we all came together at the end, I did ask my son if he could explain why he does not like to write. He kind of put his head down, and said “Sometimes I don’t know what to say.” The principal did not seem put off, she said that this was not unusual. I came home to a message from the principal that they would love my son as a student and they “have no concerns”.</p>

<p>About the Waldorf – the one positive for this school as well, unlike the others, is that they’ve started a high school. By the time my son would be ready, it would have all grades. So hypothetically, he could stay at the same place. However, if my son has a full blown learning disability, I do not think that they have services. In fact, I think I recall their materials saying that they cannot accommodate such children.</p>

<p>I spoke to both the science and math teachers at the Jewish school and told them that my son loves these topics, but is very visual-spatial, and will probably struggle with writing components. Both teachers said that they also are like that. In fact, the math teacher said that she had a very hard time with the multiplication facts and finally forced herself to memorize them, and it was not easy. The Jewish school DOES have AIS (academic intervention services). </p>

<p>As far as public schooling, I am completely a product of public schools. I never attended a private school. I went to a grammar school in a working class Catholic neighborhood. I took an entrance exam to get into an inner city public high school with excellent standards. I eventually attended business and law school at the public university. Compared to the peers that I grew up with, and every peer in my local schools, I was pretty smart. 3.98 average. HOWEVER, once I got to University, I will say this – my Jewish friend from Long Island was heads and tails ahead of me. He came from a white collar family, and he walked into the University already with college credits. Also was able to finish in 1 hour after a night of partying what took me several hours to do sober. I had another friend, came over on a boat from Vietnam at 12, English not being his first language. No matter, he was able to outperform me on our accounting tests and in less time. I really didn’t get it, but now I do. The US is woefully deficient in math and science education. If I keep my son in this public school, which does not even come close to offering the quality of education that my public schools offered, he will be woefully deficient. I’ve been doing all of that supplementing – summer engineering camps, buying Indian Vedic Math and Singapore math and tutoring him afterschool. Buying the Well-Trained Mind and getting him recommended books, which he actually did sit down and read. Supplementing is one thing, teaching him myself because the school stinks is another. I just can’t keep this up. I know that he can learn. What are the schools doing with him for 6.5 hours a day? I don’t know, should I throw away both institutional and outside scholarships for my son at excellent schools to continue this? For what purpose?</p>

<p>As far as socio-economic – ironically, because my husband was laid off, and I work in public service, we financially are modest enough to qualify for this scholarship at this time. However, when it comes to actual educational/social status, I am one of only a handful of professionals here. My values are very different from the kids and people here. My son is not different from the peers at these schools or at his activities. Those parents seem to share my values, religion or not. </p>

<p>Diversity is non-existent. This area is 99% white and 98% Bible pounding Christian (the 2% would be my husband and I). </p>

<p>Even the supposedly educated don’t seem to care about the kids. Once I complained about the free lunch being all white bread products and transfats. I said that the original purpose of that lunch was to be the one healthy meal that a poor child got. I said it’s also a learning opportunity for the child to learn to eat well. The person in charge said that she had a degree in sports administration and “What’s the problem with white bread?” and “What are transfats?” She said whole grain is too much. I suggested getting rid of the Fritos and substituting a real sandwich for the Poptart with a piece of fruit. Next thing I knew, there was a rumor flying around that I’m “the lady who says everything should be organic”. My neighbor told me…</p>

<p>Hypothetically, if my son is learning disabled, as far as the role of the public school, the districts are notorious for failing to afford a free and appropriate public education. I was the attorney for a special ed attorney who fights districts who refuse to give kids’ services. I had to go sue a district for him to get his fees paid. </p>

<p>This district also does nothing for gifted children, other than offering the ability to go into higher math and science in the 7th grade. However, they’ve done such a good job of confusing children with Everyday Math, I wonder who will make it there.</p>

<p>As to the possible dyslexia – I am not persuaded that it is the case. if you look at websites regarding “visual-spatial” learner, the “symptoms” are almost identical to dyslexia.</p>

<p>This describes my son very well: </p>

<p>" 1. Does your child think mainly in pictures instead of in words?
2. Is your child good at solving puzzles or mazes?
3. Does your child like to build with LEGOs, K’Nex, blocks, etc.?
4. Does your child often lose track of time?
5. Does your child know things without being able to tell how or why?
6. Does your child remember how to get to places visited only once?
7. Can your child feel what others are feeling?
8. Does your child remember what is seen and forget what is heard?
9. Does your child solve problems in unusual ways?
10. Does your child have a vivid imagination?
11. Is your child talented in music, dance, art or drama?
12. Can your child visualize objects from different perspectives?
13. Is your child organizationally challenged?
14. Does your child love playing on the computer?
15. Is your child terrible at spelling?
16. Does your child like taking things apart to see how they work?
17. Does your child have at least one visual-spatial parent?"</p>

<p>If my son had dyslexia, I think that it would be difficult for him to read music. I observe my son’s violin lessons. He can read the notes.</p>

<p>My son had an undiagnosed visual problem until the 4th grade which can explain his dislike of reading. In 4th grade, the eye doctor prescribed glasses. At that time, he would sometimes repeat sentences and lose track of where he was. He was in a room with both a regular teacher and a special ed teacher. We discussed vision therapy, but he gave my son an index card to put under each line, and the problem was solved. In 5th grade, my son has stopped wearing glasses. At school, he read stories on a computer program and answered questions about the reading. According to that program, my son raised his reading lexile 200 points on his own, without reading a real book at home. His reading lexile at the end of 5th grade was that of an above average 5th grader. His “reading problem” is an aversion to reading. If you don’t read, you aren’t going to be able to spell or write, simple as that.</p>

<p>My son scored a 94 on his 4th grade state science test. I made him read the chapter in the book and write out the end of chapter answers. So when forced to actually sit down and read, and write out answers, like I did in college, he apparently can do it, and retain it. The problem is my having to nag him to do it.</p>

<p>My son had a physical this week, which included reading an eye chart, and he did it without glasses.</p>

<p>My son’s handwriting is beautiful. </p>

<p>When my son was in the 2nd grade, I found his math worksheets complete and correct, but then had difficulty explaining how he got there. He was then chastised with big red pen comments “show your work!” and this, of course, did nothing to help him show his work, but instead made him feel like a failure. I think that I mentioned it, but in the 4th grade, my son scored over a 90 on his state math test after only a week of being tutored by me. Probably because I know many ways of how to portray math.</p>

<p>I’ve had to think a lot bout my feelings regarding religion here. Here’s the fact – when I was growing up, I took comfort in believing that there was a deity looking out for me. I never appreciated the gender bias. Even when I turned away from the Catholic Church, I still believed for a time, and it gave me comfort when I was alone. My husband and I married in a church and I really believed that we’d be “one” and see each other in Heaven. When I was really sick once, it was the Lord’s Prayer that gave me something to focus on when I was in pain.</p>

<p>Too many bad things happened and my belief whittled. However, it was the intervention of another person during a conversation that was the death knell for my religious beliefs. We talked of the soul, and I argued that nobody knows for sure if the essence of our personality survives the leaving of our neural networks. I argued, but the funny thing is that after I got off the phone, I kept arguing. And I argued myself right out of a belief in God. So now I am agnostic.</p>

<p>Ok, so perhaps I now have “clarity” where before I was clouded by religion and superstition. But now maybe I’ll never see my husband when I die. Or anyone else that I loved. Where I used to have someone in my head to talk to when I was alone and suffering, now I just have my own voice.</p>

<p>If I were to be totally honest, I don’t feel that I was done service by that conversation. I think that maybe I would have been happier if I had kept my belief in God. My husband believes in God, just not organized religion.</p>

<p>When it comes down to it, I share values with these people at the schools, I just lack belief. If I send my child to a religious school, and he finds a belief that I cannot give him, if he finds a community of people who will welcome him, would it be a bad thing necessarily? Maybe difficult or different, but isn’t it our job to take care of him? And maybe give him something that we cannot give him ourselves? Maybe it’s the right thing to do, to ensure that my child never feels alone when he is alone. </p>

<p>Maybe it can be a good thing for a child to acquire some religion, despite us? If not by us, what religion? Well, I can’t sanction Catholicism. Nor any other sect that sanctions oppression or hurting others.</p>

<p>Ah well, my mind is going over so much right now… Any thoughts are welcome.</p>

<p>I am the one who brought up the issue of possible dyslexia, and I really think it is out of line to refer to this never diagnosed kid as “LD” or assume he has special educational needs.</p>

<p>Everything that the OP posted suggests to me that her son has dyslexic tendencies, but overcame the reading barrier and is now a capable, if not enthusiastic, reader. </p>

<p>I raised the issue because of concern about the 2nd language, in a context where the son would be thrust in a semi-immersion setting with students who have had years of exposure. It’s not the foreign language per se, it’s the combination of the foreign language with the circumstances – that’s somewhat different than enrolling in, say, French 1, when all the other students are learning French for the first time.</p>

<p>That still doesn’t mean that there is going to be a problem – I just thought it was something the OP should be alert to and ask about, along the lines of: “what if my son has difficulty with Hebrew? What kind of support will be offered? Will that impact his grades in other subjects? etc.”</p>

<p>But there was not one thing the OP wrote about her son that would indicate to me that he is currently in need of remedial services. It seems that he would have been better off back in 2nd or 3rd grade with some more support, but it also seems like he muddled through and picked up the skills he needed – so it doesn’t make sense to use a label as reason to start a battle for services he doesn’t need.</p>