All Revved Up! REVD vs Non-HYP Ivies

<p>Good work Hawkette</p>

<p>after all is said and done, of the above 9 schools I would probably choose to attend in the following order. Please remember that this is just my personal preference, which includes location and excludes Wharton:</p>

<ol>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li><p>tie - Rice, Cornell</p></li>
<li><p>tie - Columbia, Penn, Vanderbilt, Emory</p></li>
</ol>

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<p>For me,

  1. Duke, where I’m headed :slight_smile:
  2. Penn
  3. Cornell
  4. Dartmouth
  5. Vanderbilt
  6. Brown
  7. Columbia
  8. Rice
  9. Emory</p>

<p>Hawkette…not to mess with your “REVD” acronym, but what about WUST? It’s ranked higher than Emory and Vandy after all and it is in the south.</p>

<p>Okay, Hawkette, you addressed my question in post #45</p>

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<p>Just a little lesson in geography, though…all states below the Mason Dixon Line are considered “The South”; hence, Missouri definitely falls into this category:</p>

<p>[Mason</a> Dixon Line](<a href=“http://www.sonofthesouth.net/slavery/slave-maps/mason-dixon-line.htm]Mason”>Mason Dixon Line)</p>

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It’s worth consulting a map that’s been updated in the last 150 years. Missouri is always considered part of the Midwest.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.lesconnections.com/images/US_map_regions.gif[/url]”>http://www.lesconnections.com/images/US_map_regions.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.seakayakermag.com/community/images/us_regions.gif[/url]”>http://www.seakayakermag.com/community/images/us_regions.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.onecoast.com/shared/images/maps/us_map003_regions_im.gif[/url]”>http://www.onecoast.com/shared/images/maps/us_map003_regions_im.gif&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/US_DOE_Rgns.png[/url]”>http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/US_DOE_Rgns.png&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.yanetwork.org/images/usmap.jpg[/url]”>http://www.yanetwork.org/images/usmap.jpg&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I don’t need a cite to decide whether Missouri is in the South. Have all y’all been to Branson?</p>

<p>@pbr:
Washington University is in St. Louis, not in Branson. St. Louis is not southern by any means… almost everyone considers it part of the midwest.</p>

<p>@ jc40 and pbr:</p>

<p>As defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, Missouri is part of the Midwestern United States, but it is also considered a Border State (I don’t remember much of my 8th grade Civil War history, but it was not considered part of the Confederate States of America but it was a Border State). While I agree the “Mason-Dixon” definition is valid, it is also antiquated.</p>

<p>Here’s some evidence to see for yourself:[Midwestern</a> United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midwestern_United_States]Midwestern”>Midwestern United States - Wikipedia), <a href=“http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf[/url]”>http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>St. Louis is famously a city of Northern charm and Southern efficiency. So take your pick. I’d lump WUSTL not with REVD but with Chicago, Northwestern, and maybe a couple other Midwestern schools. Notre Dame? </p>

<p>What shall we call these? How about the NUNCHuk schools? Unfortunately it misses WUSTL but it does sound terrifying.</p>

<p>The WUNDerduNCe schools? Uh, still not working …</p>

<p>I’m from the South, and no one I know has EVER referred to WashU as being a Southern school; everyone lumps it with Northwestern in the Midwest. People are even wary of calling UVA Southern.</p>

<p>Okay, I suppose this simply has to do with regional perceptions. When I think of MO, I think of Tom Sawyer, barbeque, etc. Yes, MO entered as a slave state (south) while ME came in as a free state to maintain the balance prior to the Civil War (MO Compromise); however, I would concede that now days people tend to classify MO as a Midwestern state with elements of southern charm and hospitality.</p>

<p>TOP 5 MIDWESTERN SCHOOLS

  1. UChicago
  2. Northwestern
  3. Notre Dame
  4. WashU
  5. UMich</p>

<p>[Southern</a> United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States]Southern”>Southern United States - Wikipedia)</p>

<p>[UNC-CH</a> surveys reveal where the ‘real’ South lies](<a href=“http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/jun99/reed16.htm]UNC-CH”>http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/jun99/reed16.htm)</p>

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Like New Mexico?</p>

<p>Top 5 Midwestern schools:</p>

<p>1)UChicago
2)Northwestern
2)WashU
4)UMichigan
5)NotreDame</p>

<p>This thread is silly. You all know that, if you had a choice of Emory v. Vanderbilt v. WUSTL v. Columbia, 90% of you would pick Columbia, and the other 10% would not choose Columbia and “justify” your decision by saying it was too expensive or not a good “fit.”</p>

<p>The other people who try to say that they wouldn’t pick an IVY are the bitter ones who didn’t get in, or didn’t apply. </p>

<p>Everyone obviously cares about the “status” of a school. Everyone is a prestige chaser. If this were not the case, there wouldn’t be threads like these.</p>

<p>“Ivy-league” is a household name when colleges are brought up. Most people have no idea which colleges are in the ivy league, but they’d understand if you went to an ivy league school.</p>

<p>I agree with iCalc: The REVD may be equally as good if not better in many individual ways than the “lower ivies,” but in truth, an IVY is an IVY .</p>

<p>Having an IVY school on your resume often opens doors. And when you’re just coming out of school and don’t have a lot of work experience behind you, it matters most. I’d still rather have Cornell Arts and Sciences on my resume than Rice any day of the week.</p>

<p>iCalculus: you’re overestimating the allure of Ivy status.</p>

<p>I know a ton of kids from Tennessee and Kentucky who could’ve gotten into Columbia but chose to go to Vandy because they wanted to stay close to home. Geographic convenience/compatibility is just one of the many reasons people chose schools. For me, I chose not to apply to Cornell because, even though I like the school and Ithaca, I just don’t think I could bear the brutal winters. Plus, the school is too far from home.</p>

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The erroneous assumption you made renders your argument moot.</p>

<p>“…but in truth, an IVY is an IVY .”</p>

<p>Yup, an ivy is an ivy…just like a bigten is a bigten and a pac 10 is a pac 10. That’s all. No one will hire a Cornell graduate over a Rice graduate just because Cornell is an ivy and Rice is lower ranked than Cornell.</p>