Are my daughter and her friends all destined to be librarians with cats?

^^I sometimes think this is true. On the surface, THAT girl - has it together, smart, independent, successful at her job, etc. - might be intimidating - especially to the guy that is a little less than confident or apprehensive about the dating game.

It does give more power in a way to the female @MassDaD68 - as a female, that’s why she likes it! I call both sides “bagels” - haha. There is a little video on their website - cheesy, but sort of spells some of it out. https://coffeemeetsbagel.com/

The Datonomics book is fascinating. It mainly examines the imbalance of available educated women to educated men. The numbers are not good for educated women looking an educated man. I’m waiting for the follow up book that examines the plight of Blue collar men.

As a Blue collar guy married to someone with a doctorate, I am telling you that there are options out there. We aren’t aren’t all hairy, knuckle dragging, beer swilling, boors.

Some of us drink Scotch.

While being stood up by a flake feels bad at the time, it’s a great way to filter out folks who are so unreliable they’re not likely to make good friends, much less good romantic partners.

The fact she’s a fitness instructor alone may be very intimidating to many others as some may fear being judged for not adhering to what they perceive as her high/more rigorous standards of fitness even if they are themselves fitness buffs. Related to this is how many males…even in the millennial generation may have serious issues being potentially one-upped by potential female dates/romantic partners underscoring the intimidation factor.

Interesting points @cobrat. I don’t know if she puts the fitness instructor on her bio but it’s something a person would find out soon enough. Her Instagram is pretty much all about fitness. That seems to be what you look at before you plan to meet someone. She’s also an engineer which is intimidating in itself.

D is using bumble right now, no tinder at all. Not looking for hookups and won’t swipe on anyone who has no bio just pictures or mirror selfies. I’m lolling at that last sentence.

Anyways I’ll ask her if coffee meets bagel is popular where she is.

^^^My daughter DOES look for a guy that has pics with his dog(s) though!!! Or cooking!! :slight_smile:

People get your sons and daughters to exchange emails and pics!!!

Dogs are a big plus.

Well, my D likes cats and not dogs. So cats are a big plus too!

We have said for years we needed a dating component to this website where all of us can match up our kids.

S and I were just talking and he said he was going to have to practice talking up girls again. I wish a mom’s match service was available.

What does “talking up girls” mean?

My single college educated son volunteers at a dog shelter…

I have no desire to play matchmaker. I’ll just play cheerleader or support person from the sidelines. :slight_smile:

@greenbutton if you are anywhere in the Tristate area, pm me, haha!

Any moms with an eligible son who is gainfully employed in, near, or willing to relocate to Wisconsin?! PM me.

Both of my 20-something Ds are married but our beautiful 25 yr old neighbor girl, who is like my third daughter, is having a terrible time finding someone to date. She is funny, smart, very outgoing and gorgeous. She has a wonderful job but isn’t the type to climb the corporate ladder. She travels quite a bit with girlfriends since she isn’t dating but really wants to have a committed dating partner. She dated in HS and college and although she likes to have a good time and go out she isn’t interested in guys who were/are always drinking/drunk. I think she needs to find someone who is done with the party scene and a little more mature. H thinks young guys are intimidated by her.

Being very outgoing is a big turn off for some guys.

I think the whole “men are intimidated by successful women” thing is overblown. From observing the teen boys in my dds (17 and 14yo) circles, I am often amazed by how forward and persistent boys as young as 11yo can be. I gave a recent example in my previous post #211. Maybe as they grow older, they become more scared of women? Based on comments above, these poor young men are intimidated not just by successful women, they are also intimidated by outgoing women, beautiful women, women who work as fitness instructors, etc. Really? So all along, we parents should have been raising out daughters to be quiet, plain, learned in the ways of flirting rather than math and sciences, and aspire to work at the mall? That is, if we want them to marry and have a family?

No, we need to raise our boys to embrace women who are outgoing, successful, smart, beautiful - or not , and athletic!

In my experience, guys don’t really care how smart a girl is as long as she’s not super dumb. This makes a somewhat significant part of your personality become irrelevant in the dating scene. So girls who want a steady boyfriend need to work on traits they’ve never had to develop so acutely before- being flirty, being relatable, making small talk. And yes, guys do get intimidated by successful women.

How about guys and girls just be who they are?

If I told either of my D’s that if they wanted a steady boyfriend they would need to work on being flirty…they would probably give ME a lecture on relationships! “Flirty” happens if the chemistry is right - if you have to work on it, things probably ain’t right. My opinion.