If the source Idad cited is correct, my statistics are correct.
I’m curious where you are getting these details. He swallowed his entire inventory while running away? Isn’t that kind of hard to do?
And that’s relevant to law enforcement overreach …how?
“And that’s relevant to law enforcement overreach …how?”
I think idad’s comment was as relevant to law enforcement overreach, as was your false equivalence statement directed at Mr.Krauthammer, for daring to suggest that the cause of breakdowns in inner city communities were mainly caused by single parent families and terrible schools.
Do you honestly not believe that is true? What do you think the two main causes of breakdown in inner city communities are?
Here’s a list of his many arrests; he was born in August 1989:
http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquirySearch.jis
He settled a case in civil court with Allstate Insurance in Howard County MD on 4-2-15 for a back injury. New info is that he had surgery to cervical spine the week before the incident and was supposed to be on bed rest. If his neck was held together with screws I can see why he’d run into problems.
A decent reporter could have found the court documents on line. It’s so much more dramatic to stand on a corner and watch people throw bricks than to actually investigate. I can also now see why a blow from a bad police could cause the damage. Usually it takes a car accident or diving accident
Baltimore has very ethnic neighborhoods - Jewish, Italian, German, WASPy. There was no white flight from those neighborhoods, but most of the students went to private schools or Catholic schools so the Baltimore city schools have been majority black for a long time. There are beautiful homes heading north toward Towson and near Loyola/St. Mary’s, but those kids attended private schools. In the suburbs, I’d say it was more white growth than white flight. Younger families settled in Baltimore county, Columbia, and even farther out. The counties around DC are very different than Baltimore and its surrounding areas. The money has never been put into Baltimore public schools.
The city was pretty run down before they built Harbour Place and developed the waterfront (science museum, restaurants, aquarium). When they tore down the waterfront walls, rats poured into the city and it took forever to get rid of them. No one went to downtown before, but suddenly it became a great place to be. They used to have these great ethnic festivals every weekend, put on by the communities - Greek, Lithuanian, German, Irish, French, with the Italian fest being Labor Day weekend and then the All City fest. Really fun, lots to learn about the neighborhoods and the people. But the neighborhoods were always separate, and you knew when you left one neighborhood and entered another.
You seem to have dueling speculations here: he injured himself by batting his head against the inside of the van after becoming intoxicated from swallowing his entire inventory while running away…or he injured himself running when he should have been on bedrest from spinal surgery.
What’s the source on the “new info” regarding cervical surgery? Can you link to it?
I read somewhere else that he had had surgery as well. I was coming here to see if that was true.
I just went on the maryland judiciary website. On there is a structured settlement with Allstate. It looks like he was trying to change his payout to a lump sum through some company called Peachtree. Whether that’s a different kind of settlement or perhaps some kind of car accident I can’t tell.
A picture of residents standing up in front of the police. Puts a tear in my eye.
@eyemamom that is an astonishing photo.
Am I the only one who thinks it’s strange to compare schools in Mississippi and Baltimore? They are likely both boar and for different reasons in particular although the overriding reason would be poverty. No, we haven’t solved the problems of poverty. That is sadly not news.
@OspreyCV22 - there are so many things things wrong with some of your statements that I am just boggled. Let’s see:
Oh yes, they will. They certainly have been trying since the beginning of this case.
No. The only video is cellphone video. By the time they started “investigating”, it was 7 or more days after the arrest and most of the outdoor video cameras had begun to retape over the events in question. There are a few distant shots that helped establish when the police van was on certain streets, that is all. I’m sure the police knew that letting time go by would be on their side in terms of video evidence being erased.
No, he clearly does not! He is dragged to the van by police and balances on one leg for less than one second before being put in the van.
This is just odd. Not even the police are saying he beat his head against the side of the paddy wagon, they are saying he was “agitated” and so they stopped and put him in leg manacles. They say he was in fine physical condition at this time but there is no video evidence since it was all erased. They have denied deliberately giving him a “rough ride” (where they drive in a manner to cause harm to an unbelted suspect) but we all know when they finally stopped he was unresponsive and died 7 days later without regaining consciousness. P.S. I bet the van is already dented, there is no source of proof there.
Ridiculous. Had his hand even gone to his mouth we would have heard about it from one of the three cops who pursued him on foot. The chase lasted a minute and as soon as he was caught he asked for an inhaler. (Could it be because he had asthma and was short of breath? How boring.) They ignored him.
They also held him down by pinning their knees into his spine near his neck and folding his legs back up. This holding someone down with your knee in their back is a common technique by the BPD and was quoted by several people who have won court cases against them for brutality. This is likely what damaged his spine.
Let’s not forget that SCOTUS has decided that running from the cops, by itself, is not a crime you can be arrested for.
Too frequently, anarchy is what we have. If I was a young man of color I would wonder what, if any, behavior would be safe with the police. Run away? Get shot, or get tackled and injured. Hands up? Might get shot anyway. Drop down and play dead? You’ll probably get kicked.
That is a cool photo.
No time to do internet research, so can someone tell me if Gray was charged with any crime? I read that he had a switchblade on him…was that the charge? The officers chased him because he ran…but nothing I read said they were specifically looking for him or that there was a warrant out for him or something. Is it illegal to run away from police on sight?
I’m trying to figure out why chasing and capturing this man for a petty offense (if he was even charged with something) was so important…so much use of police resources for what purpose?
What staggers me is the brutally strict law enforcement on the very lowest rungs of the ladder of the drug enterprise, while the bankers to the “big fish” just pay a fine and go on with their lives.
Oh wait, the bank pays the fine. The bankers get away with it.
Wow, that is truly a nasty comment. But…Chucky became a highly functional, non whinny, non-blaming, non oh poor pitiful me…self ENTITLED rioting schmuck.
Maybe because CK was at Harvard — already on the top of the heap in our society — when it happened. He wasn’t injured in police custody, with his obviously impaired condition ignored and allowed to worsen.
Spinal cord injuries aside, is it a really a surprise that a highly motivated genius will be more successful than a lowlife who would riot, or a drug dealer with a long rap sheet?
^^^^^ But, but, but…that’s so unFAIRRRRRRRR!!!
This is my reaction as well–I’m pretty much sickened by people who are rubbing their hands with glee at the ability to blame this on black political leaders. That’s why they didn’t like what Angelos said about it.
By the way, if Krauthammer says something, I assume the opposite to be the truth. He is a bitter, angry and cruel ideologue. I don’t know if being in a wheelchair has anything to do with his attitudes one way or the other, but I find his writings to be almost uniformly hateful.
We are watching what amounts to the left going to war with the left. It is not pretty and there is no joy in Mudville, that’s for sure.
But, the riots aside, I still don’t understand how this fatal injury occurred. I would like to have that information.