<p>The fact that they didn’t have an escape plan (had to rob a 7-11 for money and did not leave the city, instead of driving to a safe hideout) is encouraging. Makes it seem they were just wackos who happened to be from Chechnya, as opposed to part of an organized terrorist org.</p>
<p>Hopefully there is a computer in the apt. that will yield background information.</p>
<p>Thanks to greenbutton, srystress, and the rest for kind words. I’m semi-hysterical inernally right now, finding it difficult to concentrate on my students later today.</p>
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<p>IMO, maiming first. No prosthetics. See how that feels. Amputate all limbs. A little Eye for an Eye seems appropriate right now. Immoral but cathartic.</p>
<p>sryrstress, I feel the same way, even though I know I shouldn’t. There can be no doubt that these guys were the Marathon bombers, given the way they behaved last night. I saw a photo of the policeman who was killed. He had such a nice face, and so young! He probably has a wife and children who are devastated now.</p>
<p>Wasn’t he an MIT policeman? Not a job where dying in the line of duty would be expected… more like catching the pranksters who put Volkswagens on the dome.</p>
<p>They had him on foot in Watertown many miles away last night when they lost him. There is no way he can get back to his house either by foot or by car with all the road blocks. I say she is pretty safe. If he actually is able to get into a car, I say he would drive west away from all the police.</p>
<p>Maybe I misinterpreted what the uncle said, but I am fairly certain that he only referred to the older brother as an unsettled “loser,” not the younger one.</p>
<p>I though they evacuated immediate vicinity of his apartment…</p>
<p>mommusic, yesterday on Chris Matthews the FBI predicted a desperation scenario like this. I thought, 'hmmm. how would they know that?" Then I realized that Duh, that’s what they’re paid to do: profile suspects and incidents. And then when yesterday I heard about the MIT incident, prior to this morning, I also predicted that would most likely be related, and fell right into place with what the FBI had been saying.</p>
<p>According to Larry Johnson, In Russia, Putin and his team considered the folks we dubbed Chechen separatists as terrorists… The terrorist attacks carried out over the last two decades by the Muslim Chechens bedeviled and bloodied Russia. Bombings of subways, planes and theaters was fairly common. And there was the horrific takeover of an elementary school in Beslan in September 2004, that lest more than 300 children dead. Yet, from the perspective of America, we never took a hardline against these folks and, as we now see, would grant some of them political asylum. They were not terrorists, they were refugees. So, from Putins perspective we are getting a taste of his world and do not like it. Blood and carnage is a bitter meal.</p>
<p>I suspect Tamerlane and his brother were recruited and radicalized on line. I believe they have other supporters/enablers here (in the Boston area). But I do not believe they were directed by some higher authority to attack the Marathon. Instead, they were left on their own to plan and look for a target of opportunity.</p>
<p>The bombing of the Marathon was tactically sophisticated but strategically stupid. It is not the kind of act that will rally world sympathy for Chechen separatists."</p>
<p>Johnson worked for the CIA and he is currently CEO of Berg Associates, LLC a firm with expertise in combating terrorism and money laundering.</p>
<p>DonnaL, LOL.
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<p>Whew. ;)</p>
<p>This is what’s known as unintended subtle humor. (Because the other one is definitely NOT a loser.)</p>
<p>On the one hand, I’d like the guy on the run to be caught alive, questioned, and brought to justice. On the other hand, I think it would save us all a ton of the hard-earned taxpayer money if he gets shot… No manifestos, no statements, no more front page pictures, no unintended media glorification, no life sentences… Dead, forgotten. Not forgiven.</p>
<p>My D said her MIT friends were very frightened last night…</p>
<p>Or if there are other radicalized associated group or individuals, we want to know that also if we can catch him alive.</p>
<p>A sleeper cell, which is what this may be, does not have to be sophisticated. Maybe they had no escape plan because they planned to be suicide bombers and then changed their minds. Remember the brother who was killed was wearing an IED vest. </p>
<p>They need to find the computers to know what documents the brothers may have created, but I hope that by now a search warrant has been sent to internet providers to get all their internet activities.</p>
<p>BunsenBurner, if he’s captured alive then people can question him and figure out his motivation, backing, connections, all that info. Much much much harder to do without him.</p>
<p>^Because people like this always tell the truth?</p>
<p>"And there was the horrific takeover of an elementary school in Beslan in September 2004, that lest more than 300 children dead. Yet, from the perspective of America, we never took a hardline against these folks and, as we now see, would grant some of them political asylum. They were not terrorists, they were refugees. "</p>
<p>OMG. That and the theater siege - remember that one?</p>
<p>[Moscow</a> theater hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis]Moscow”>Moscow theater hostage crisis - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>I think we might get more info from their computers and communication trails than from questioning a 19 yr old radical.</p>
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<p>I feel like I need to talk myself into using logic and being rational or I’d be having a panic attack shut up in my apartment. It’s like there’s nothing you can do, you know?</p>
<p>It does sound like the suspects have been pretty dumb – carjacking the guy, telling them who they were, not killing him (and leaving him to call police), and robbing the gas station, so hopefully they’ll make another stupid move and get caught.</p>
<p>They don’t always tell the truth, but even lies can have information value. Dead people can’t say anything at all, and a young man could have a long time behind bars to consider his actions.</p>
<p>"^Because people like this always tell the truth? "</p>
<p>You didn’t watch Dark Zero Thirty? :)</p>
<p>I imagine they have already been in his apartment. I doubt they are outside waiting for him to get home. I also imagine they already have the computers, as well.</p>
<p>Remember that the first terrorist was already pronounced dead in the hospital a long time before anybody, including the tweeters, reported that they had the guy.</p>
<p>I live in the lock-down area … Brookline actually … and this whole experience is beyond surreal. Brookline is an urban/suburban town that borders Boston with great public schools … one of the most desirable places to live in greater Boston for families with kids.</p>
<p>The bombs went off about 3 miles from our house. Today the press conferences are being held at the Watertown Mall which is about 2 miles from our house (when the cameras are at the right angle you can see our doctor’s office in the background). The search area in Watertown is another 1/2 (?) mile down the road. If we head outside (letting the dog into the back yard) we can hear the helicopters over head. This morning when I went down for breakfast I got stuck looking at the morning paper about 10 feet away from our front door … should I go get it or leave it there?
Surreal it is.</p>
<p>Even worse there have been two similar instances around here. The 9/11 bombers stayed in a hotel that is about 3 miles from here (actually very near the marathon finish line) … and I worked right near that hotel and was working in a skyscraper on 9/11 (the fear was our building was also a target) and also on the day they raided the hotel (which we could see from our windows). 1995 there was abortion clinic murder about 1 mile from us. </p>
<p>Way too much bad stuff</p>