<p>That doesn’t really tell us a lot. What were the details given in the all-points bulletin?</p>
<p>So you think the APB didn’t mention that the marathon bombers were in the stolen SUV? That doesn’t make any sense to me (especially since Capt. Deveau said when the SUV was spotted they called for back up.)</p>
<p>I’ve watched the news as much as anyone else (okay, not around the clock) but I have some questions if any of you know.</p>
<p>How were the police able to do house by house searches without warrants?</p>
<p>Did the residents have to stay indoors or was it just recommended? Would the requirement be marshall law?</p>
<p>I still don’t get the younger brother. There was no escape plan, he went back to school, tweeted all week - had he never seen a single csi? Doesn’t everyone know there are cameras all over every major city as well as witnesses with cameras? Did they not think they’d get caught or not care? How could someone who would knowingly drop a bomb where there were young children, innocent families then just go back to their dorm and act as if all was right with the world?</p>
<p>Did he and the brother not get back together again until they realized they’d be releasing photos? How many people who knew them saw these pics, think it was them and said nothing?</p>
<p>Finally - the medical expenses. Is there a fund of any kind set up to help the victims?</p>
<p>This CNN article has links to some crowdfunding campaigns for the Boston bombing victims:</p>
<p>[Viral</a> crowdfunding campaigns for Boston Marathon bombing victims top $1 million - Apr. 19, 2013](<a href=“http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/19/pf/crowdfunding-boston-victims/index.html]Viral”>Viral crowdfunding campaigns for Boston Marathon bombing victims top $1 million)</p>
<p>The NYT article is interesting because it says</p>
<p>a. the FBI didnt know the identites who who they were looking for until the scanned the finger print of the dead Tamerlan at the hospital</p>
<p>b. the police had matched the picture of white hat to one when he attempted to rob a convience store that night.</p>
<p>c. After Tamerlan was finger printed is the first time they pulled his FBI file. </p>
<p>There are still a couple of things that dont add up. The Times doesnt mention the ATM withdrawals of $800 that went on. Why did they wait so long. Why did white hat try to shop lift the red bull and draw attention to himself. Why shoot the MIT cop at all? What where they doing circling around Watertown. As NYT notes they could have been on their way to New Hampshire. </p>
<p>The complete lack of any coherent planning along with lack of an announcement to claim responsibility stand out. Maybe they had thought they would immediately be apprehended after the bomb went off at the Marathon and went they were able to just walk off they were unsure what to do since their planning haddnt gone that far. Flee the city would be the obvious especially when possible suspect photos start showing up all over social media. But they didnt even start to do that until after the press conference.</p>
<p>There are funds for individual victims (as mentioned in the article above), but also this centralized one:
[The</a> One Fund](<a href=“http://onefundboston.org/]The”>http://onefundboston.org/)</p>
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<p>My impression was that it was more than recommended. They did not want people interfering with the investigation and they did not want people in risk of danger. Somerville recommended that people stay inside but did not require it like the other towns. They also evacuated the houses in that radius that they were searching.</p>
<p>There was a point when they thought they might have apprehended the suspect during the day. It was actually a man that went into the epicenter of the police area in Watertown wearing a baseball cap and a backpack, just to see what was going on. At that point nobody was supposed to be moving and anyone out and about like that was considered a suspect. This was when they were ordering the news crews to get on the ground and they probably spent the better part of an hour figuring it out. </p>
<p>I’m assuming if someone really had an essential reason to go outside, they could find a way to mange, but in Watertown or in the Strawberry Hill area of Cambridge, I really wouldn’t risk it unless I was going to get in a car, get right on the highway, and drive elsewhere.</p>
<p>There was also really nowhere to go. Grocery stores, shops, and restaurants in the area were closed all day. Even hospitals were canceling appointments that could be canceled.</p>
<p>A friend of mine tried to walk to the (closed) grocery store after they lifted the stay-inside order. Just after she got home was when shots started sounding less than half a mile from her house (when they found the suspect in the boat). I wasn’t going anywhere on foot yesterday unless I had some really necessary reason.</p>
<p>We have to remember that the two individuals involved are a 19 and a 26 year old male. Many of the ones I know are not known for planning, especially contingency planning. There are a lot of random things that they did and didn’t do. If they had any assistance, I believe it ended when they completed their mission of placing and detonating the bombs. The rest was the two ad libbing. It seems the older suspected he’d be dying soon, so he made call to estranged uncle who was likely oldest male family member in US. </p>
<p>No apparent motive for fatally shooting MIT officer. Absent that, they could have stolen a car and made their escape to aunt in Canada or something. Very confusing. It doesn’t appear either suspect had thoughts beyond the bombing and were perhaps surprised not to be immediately caught.</p>
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<p>I didn’t say that. I said that we don’t know and bring it up as a possibility.</p>
<p>I took a Software Engineering Quality course once and we had a class on tower-airplane communications and went over the things that could result in miscommunications and tragedy. The amount of bandwidth in police communications is relatively low and the officer has other tasks (driving, acknowledging the communication if there’s only one person in the car).</p>
<p>FYI, the One Fund raised more than $7 million in the first 24 hours after the bombings.</p>
<p>“How were the police able to do house by house searches without warrants?”</p>
<p>They knocked on people doors and were let in. They didn’t need a warrant - the homeowners allowed them to search their homes and yards. </p>
<p>“Did the residents have to stay indoors or was it just recommended? Would the requirement be marshall law?”</p>
<p>I suppose they didn’t have to stay in their homes but going out would be a pretty dumb thing to do, imo. One could be mistaken for the bomber or an accomplice or taken hostage/killed by the bomber. </p>
<p>I think the bombers thought they were smarter than everyone else and wouldn’t get caught.</p>
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<p>They live in Rhode Island.</p>
<p>“I didn’t say that. I said that we don’t know and bring it up as a possibility.”</p>
<p>I suppose anything is possible but it defies logic, imo, to not issue an APB to police and not mention that the suspects are the marathon bombers. </p>
<p>My DH is with NYS Dept of Homeland Security. He is Dir. of Emergency Communications so I asked about the bandwidth. He said the bandwidth is the bandwidth and it doesn’t matter how many “bits’” are sent out. The bandwidth doesn’t limit the amount of words.</p>
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<p>Did you look at the link I posted, Viewer? Apparently they have already left their RI home and put it on the market this week. I read elsewhere that they were in seclusion somewhere in NH.</p>
<p>Her dad is a surgeon and mom is a nurse. They might have a challenge figuring out where to relocate where he can practice quietly. Hopefully he will be able to do so.</p>
<p>OK I dont think I am buying the narrative they are floating in the NYT article. My opinion was that it was a mistake not to release the photos sooner. The Times’ source paint it as a decision to avoid " tipping off" the suspects. </p>
<p>My recollection was that the description was already out there before the press conference. So in essence the preps had already been “tipped off”. Mind you that whole “tipped off” concept is fairly asinine. The perpetrators knew they had done it. And they also knew all layers of government were looking for them. And they also knew that there were excellent shots of the crowd being circulated and searched. And they knew they had made no attempt to disguise their appearences. So they had every reason to suspect that they would be found.</p>
<p>Anyway… I looked back and found the news story with description of the suspect. Since stories get up dated and twitter doesnt have the full time stamp after the first day its a bit difficult to tell exactly when this went out. Anyway here is the tweet from CBS and there was an accompaning news story:
<a href=“https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/324593633275834369[/url]”>https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/324593633275834369</a></p>
<p>Looking at the CBS news timeline this came out before the news of the Gun Bill being defeated, which I believe was about 4:30. Wednesday. </p>
<p>So this " tipping off" thing doesnt fly. The description of Dzhokhar was out more than 24 hours <em>before</em> the Thursday 5pm press conference. The FBI seems to have threaded the needle and pick the worst of both options. They tip off the suspect but dont provide enough useful information for the public to assist them with an identity. Its possible they could have picked up Dzhokhar at the dorm party Wednesday night.</p>
<p>Posting links isn’t always confirmation. After all, we’re critiquing the media, too.
As of yesterday at 730am, they were in RI. Later than that, too, because they read a statement to reporters.</p>
<p>And, you can’t just drive into Canada.</p>
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<p>Probably nothing. I’m not sure if he was even pro. He made a National Gold Gloves tournament, an amateur contest, and this was somewhat of a surprise to the other people at his gym because he was very raw.</p>
<p>If they had taken off on Monday, sure they could have shown their US ID and driven into Canada. It really seems the younger guy wasn’t sure what the plan was, if there was any. In the meantime, he was in the mood to party.</p>
<p>Is there confirmation he was at a party?
It’s about 90 minutes and his car was in the shop? Or? Globe says his swipe card was used on campus, but-?</p>