I was just reading back through this and noticed that all these AP classes are weighted grades. What is your school’s weighting system.? If it is like our school (which is also on a 100 point system) that adds 10 points for AP classes, this would be a lot of unweighted B grades.
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Yes, of course, but trying to explain it to OP, whose kid already applied ED.
And I’ll add that ED2 is also an option if deferred from ED school.
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They add 7 pts to the unweighted. So, 4 out of 9 are A’s and 5 are B’s. That’s why he’s focused on getting A’s for this term and next to boast his grades.
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Great catch! If they are adding 10 points (I really hope that is not the case), I am going to have to change most everything I wrote.
Just read that there are 7 points being added, OK so at least as many B’s as A’s unweighted… that changes a lot. Would you please also share what happened in other years with the grades? Unweighted are so much better than weighted FYI. Although I am still an optimist, I was definitely shooting you too high. Academics are the most important thing and I thought you had those a good level higher.
Happy to recalibrate if you give all the facts. Great catch by @Greatpyrmom !
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Yes, weighted by the high school is usually useless to those outside the high school, unless the weighting system is designed to match that of a college being applied to.
As mentioned in post #22 above, many of the colleges on the list recalculate GPA their own way.
If you recalculate GPA for each college the way the college does it, you can then compare the recalculated GPA with the college’s admissions profile, and other posters here familiar with the college may be able to help you better.
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Assuming these are the only full year B’s, I expect that’s somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 B’s in core classes. Unfortunately that is not an elite school level GPA. I am still optimistic on UGA in RD, and look forward to hearing the Ga Tech decision from last night. All the schools in your OP are reaches. Not sure about UC Irvine, we need the UC GPAs for that.
Do you still need safeties? I agree GSU is a safety, but don’t see OSU Fisher as a safety. Business is just getting so competitive. I know a pretty strong student (lower stats than your S’s) denied from U Delaware Lerner this past week. Has your S considered Miami Ohio?
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Yes, Emory and Wake Forest both have ED2. Not all schools have ED2 (Duke doesn’t), but a bunch do so you just need to check their website. Emory would be a good ED2 but only if he would want to go there over UGA because if he gets in ED2 then UGA will no longer be an option.
Emory ED2 is a much harder admit than GT or UGA EA. So not seeing how thats more reasonable option. Not sure about Wake or Richmond but they arent on that level so probably not.
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Yes and no. Emory is need aware. So they will consider finances. Even when they were need blind, they found a way to enroll the wealthy. They also have the Oxford two year option.
But is it really #2 with such desire to make it ED ?
I agree stats wise but combine less international and desire for someone to pay $90k a year - stranger things have happened.
Emory, Vanderbilt, Rice, WashU, NYU all have ED2. So see which one he likes most, WashU might be the easiest ED2 of that group. But that isnt saying much its still a reach.
This is Emory’s first year of being need aware so there’s no telling how that will play out, and there’s no indication op is full pay. Emory ED2 was a 12% acceptance rate last year, 11% for Oxford both are more selective.
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But of those, Emory is the only need aware one which may work to their favor..I believe but could be wrong they are full pay it’s been mentioned with no denial.
And only Vandy is on the initial list (with Emory, NYU, and Cornell as high end privates. Rice nor WU appear on it
No reason to force an ED if OP isn’t passionate or the family wants to save $$. OP should truly love it to ED.
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When I suggested Emory ED2, I meant it was a more realistic reach than Duke. I did not realize how many B grades this student had on their transcript when I made that comment. I agree with @Maryland85 that Emory is a tougher admit than UGA but Georgia Tech is debatable. As I noted above, Georgia Tech has gotten crazy competitive for male students in the Atlanta area. My oldest was accepted regular decision at Emory (but to the Oxford campus) and was wait listed at the main campus and Georgia Tech. He did have the advantage of being a double legacy at Emory so who knows how much that helped. I have seen many students from our school denied from Georgia Tech and accepted to Emory and vice versa. They are very different schools and are not necessarily looking for the same type of student.
I also agree that there are other schools where the ED2 boost is much better than at Emory. It looks like last year the ED2 acceptance rate was actually lower than regular decision? I do think Emory would be a waste of an ED application for this student - as would other elite schools like Wash U, NYU or Vanderbilt. I think Wake or Richmond are more reasonable reaches and schools such as SMU or U Miami would be more reasonable targets for an ED2 application but the student would have to love the school and be willing to give up on UGA.
I am going to echo what others have said. This kid needs to find a safety school or two that he likes. Alternatively, they need to consider applying to one of the less competitive schools in the University of Georgia system. Lots of kids spend a year at Kennesaw State, Georgia College, Georgia State or University of North Georgia and then transfer into Georgia Tech or UGA for sophomore year. I do still think there is hope for a regular decision admit to UGA.
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Emory is test optional and ED. About 25% of their admitted class don’t submit test scores. It’s apples and oranges to compare. Also, you do realize that most of Georgia Tech’s applications come in the OOS EA2 rounds. Last year EA2 was 54% of the total applications to GT with an acceptance rate of just over 8%. For Fall 2025 in Early Action 2 - GT received 36,185 applications and admitted 2,950. So, much tougher admit than Emory. I think EA2 for Fall 2030 the rate will be even lower.
Okay 1. OP is instate. 2. Emory has higher test scores and always had even during the test required years. 3. A 9% AR is qualified by their 1460 median test score. 4. EA2 is GTs most competitive round, RD is Emory’smost competitive round with a 5-6% AR and again much higher test scores. 5. Lastly test optional only affects the 25th percentile (not the median or 75th) which OP likely wouldn’t qualify for as they have no hooks.
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Yes being double legacy has a large affect on admissions, similar to being urm.
Or being need aware may work against them, if they need financial aid? Either way GT instate is selective but not exorbitantly so. There’s plenty of students on reddit that received acceptances a few days ago with less than 1400’s. So no compared to any T25 private its not comparatively selective.
25% or more Test Optional admitted compared to any school that is test required is really where the discussion ends with me on who has the highest test scores. Sorry.
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Yeah, I saw the one post on Reddit. Skeptical. Reddit is not where I would go for my sources BTW. What do you think the 25% or more test scores were? Why did they choose to go test optional. Hmmm. ED and Test Optional schools have their own category. Period. Sorry for this revelation.
Schools went TO because of Covid.