Sorry for the nursing v premed confusion. Im not sure what I want to do yet but I have a meeting w my counselor tomorrow so ill try and figure it out
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Have you had an opportunity to shadow nurses (not sure if that is possible) or do any informational interviews?
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No, sadly. My aunt was a nurse but she doesnât talk about it too much or is really vague when I ask her
If your family makes 150-200k/year, you definitely could get some aid from private colleges. I would apply.
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I would try to talk to a nurse, try to shadow if possible (might not be) to learn about the career. Nursing is not for everybody (MD is not for everybody either).
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Your chance me odds depend on whether you apply as pre-med or nursing. Top nursing schools admit rate is less than 10%.
For Pitt nursing you would be very competitive. Your stats mirror my friendâs D who is finishing up her second year. Apply very early.
Please do some shadowing. You donât need to go to top schools for nursing or pre-med. Med school is expensive and CRNA programs also have gotten expensive.
For nursing I would focus on direct admit programs. There are plenty of threads. Clinical experience and passing boards is all you need to do. If you want to go the CRNA route youâll need to work a few years. Typically an ICU or critical care unit.
My wife has been a CRNA for 25+ years. She went to a small, private college for nursing and worked at a large, teaching hospital in critical care. She was well prepared. Nursing is rough but can be very rewarding.
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As for your list of schoolsâŠit depends on which path you go. If you canât decide now I would create two lists. One premed and one nursing. Pitt would be good for both but youâll have to pick.
You would be competitive at any T20 nursing school but admit rates are low. Especially direct admit programs. Lower than 20% with some probably around 5%.
Again, going to top, expensive schools isnât always the best path when med school is on the table. For nursing it definitely doesnât matter. The payscale is set regardless of where you went to school.
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Below are my guesses as to what your chances might be, assuming that youâre not going into nursing. Admittance for nursing majors is generally significantly more challenging than it is for admittance to the school on the whole. For nursing chancing, Iâd recommend posting in the nursing forum and figuring out which programs have direct entry and what the requirements are to remain in the program (as some, though not all, will have significant weed-out classes/GPAs).
Extremely Likey (80-99+%)
- Providence
Likely (60-79%)
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U. of Pittsburgh
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SUNY Stony Brook
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USC (if U. of South Carolina)
Toss-Up (40-59%)
- Binghamton (42% admit rate with majority of students submitting tests and your scores falling within the 25th-75th percentile)
Lower Probability (20-39%)
Low Probability (less than 20%)
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Emory
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Cornell
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U. of Florida
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U. of Michigan
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USC (if U. of Southern California)
With your interest in Emory, you may want to take a look at Agnes Scott as a safety. Itâs a diverse womenâs college and itâs part of a consortium with other Atlanta schools, including Emory, so you would be allowed to take classes there. Itâs also in one of the most walkable neighborhoods in Atlanta. Alternatively, thereâs Oglethorpe which is another school in Atlanta thatâs in the same consortium, and Oglethorpe advertises its Flagship 50 programâŠmeaning that tuition would cost no more than your family would pay for Binghamtonâs tuition. Both of these are smaller schools than the ones on your list, but with the consortium possibilities, they have access to options that can make them feel much larger. But these would be schools for you to be pre-med, as I donât think they offer nursing options.
All the schools below would work for pre-med but also offer nursing majors:
Potential Extremely Likely Admits
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Loyola Chicago (IL): About 12k undergrads
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Marquette (WI): About 7500 undergrads in Milwaukee
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Mercer (GA): About 4900 undergrads and particularly known for health sciences
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The College of New Jersey: About 7k undergrads
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U. of Alabama â Birmingham: About 13k undergrads and very well-reputed for the health sciences
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U. of Cincinnati (OH): About 30k undergrads
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U. of Louisville (KY): About 16k undergrads
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Xavier (OH): About 4900 undergrads in Cincinnati
More attainable reaches
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U. of Miami (FL): About 13k undergrads
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Villanova (PA ): About 7k undergrads just outside of Philadelphia
If youâre not yet a diehard maize and blue fan, you may also want to check out Ohio State (about 46k undergrads) and U. of Wisconsin â Madison: (about 36k undergrads). The former is probably a likely and the latter a toss-up.
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Thank you! The only one Iâll disagree with is Villanova. Our school is a villanova feeder, and I donât wanna sound mean but I donât want to go to a school with sooo many people from my highschool. The others you introduced are all schools ive looked at before and remember in a positive light
Getting into Binghamton for nursing is definitely not a sure thing, we saw top performers getting rejected from their nursing program. Iâm not sure if itâs because they were yield protecting or what.
There are a lot of exceptional studentsâŠbut not enough spots, instructors etc.
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CALS and three other colleges within Cornell are SUNY.
(Edited to add, this means much less tuition than regular Cornell prices, but not as cheap as a regular SUNY)
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Technically, they are not SUNY, but connected. In-state residents in these 4 contract colleges still pay about $46,000 tuition at Cornell vs. around $7,000-$13,000 at a SUNY school. Better than the $68,000 Cornell tuition bill for OOS or non-contract colleges, but not as affordable as a SUNY school.
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Your list is solid. You have a very good shot at all except your 3 top reaches. I donât know University of Michigan well, but I would say Emory is a very reasonable reach. Can also check out the Oxford school at Emory, less competitive to get in, you spend the start of your college career on a different campus but then you transfer to Emory and get an Emory degree. I would call their Oxford program at match.
Donât rule out Cornell, it isnât necessarily that extreme of a reach. Yes, definitely a reach for everyone, but they are very program specific. Some programs have acceptance rates of 3-4%, some of their programs have acceptance rates of 10-20%.
The CALS school, as mentioned elsewhere, is test blind. There are also programs at Human Ecology that some people use as pre-med.
I donât know the acceptance rates as a bio major in CALS vs Human Ecology school, you might be able to find that information.
While you donât know your class rank, do you have a sense of how your GPA compares to others? Would you say you are in the top 10% of your class? I
Your APs and honors classes show good rigor, your ECs are decent. Clearly you are an excellent student and a good candidate. Your SAT is excellent, though obviously the most elite schools expect even better than excellent. But your SAT is already good enough that you wouldnât be knocked out of having a chance at Cornell. Iâd definitely continue to consider it a reach, but worth applying, especially ED. And if you went test blind at CALs, it appears you would be right in the mix.
I believe cornell schools are test blind, they donât look at test scores.
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Only these. The rest recommended - I think b4 was optional. That might be a change.
- College of Agriculture and Life Sciences
- College of Architecture, Art, and Planning
- Cornell SC Johnson College of Business - Charles H. Dyson School of Applied Economics and Management
- Cornell SC Johnson College of Business - Peter and Stephanie Nolan School of Hotel Administration
Standardized Testing Policy | Undergraduate Admissions (cornell.edu)
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Thank you! Ive since done more research at oxford and i really like it.
As for where i stand? Difficult to determine. Our school tends to underweigh honors/academy GPAs, theres a decent amount of academy (not honors) kids who have straight 90s just by not failing tests and showing up. The curve is only around 2%, which is absolutely insane considering the difficulty leap. So if you rule out everyone who isnât in honors/AP, probably top 20-5%.
Why such a big percentage gap? When i was a freshman, due to multiple unfortunate circumstances, I really struggled. Not academically, just in general. My gpa then would be around 20-10%. But this year, junior year, I got my life together, and my junior year gpa would be 5%. So overall probably 10% but ig its better to go from bad to good then good to bad.
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