Chance Me - SCEA Yale or ED Dartmouth - Social Sciences and Humanities, 3.7 GPA, 1570 SAT

I definitely like William & Mary - they have a nice government program! I think my parents are ok with it because W&M is a “top” school - something they can see in rankings ;-;

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The career outcomes are in fact part of the research! However it seems like many schools have good career outcomes in general or reassuring statistics, so that shouldn’t be a huge issue :slight_smile:

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Wow, this is interesting & super helpful info - thank you!!

Yes, most four-year non-profit US colleges do a good job preparing most of their graduates for careers that they could not have gotten otherwise. For many colleges, the bigger issue is actually graduating, as they serve some student populations where for various reasons that is not a given. But if you can comfortably pay and graduate, an extremely long list of US colleges will likely work out well.

That doesn’t mean it is unreasonable to have preferences, again assuming you can comfortably pay. But you do sometimes encounter this mindset that only a few colleges are really helpful enough to be worth attending, and it is quite the opposite.

Indeed, it has to be the opposite, because there are an enormous number of jobs where a college degree is in fact necessary (meaning not just jobs where they make a college degree a requirement but it really shouldn’t be). A small handful of colleges could not possibly graduate enough people to fill all those jobs, so there must be many more colleges producing graduates who fill those jobs. And there are.

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Did you take note of the dual W&M / ST Andrews program - as you’re interested in Europe? You’d do two years at each.

St Andrews William & Mary Joint Degree Programme | Arts & Sciences | William & Mary (wm.edu)

These are the possible majors.

If you were just at W&M itself, you wuoldn’t necessarily choose a major til the end of 2nd year. While you think you know what you want to do, many change - once they are exposed to certain courses - which is a total fun thing of course - not exactly knowing your future. It makes it more exciting.

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OP: Up thread a few very knowledgeable, respected posters indicated that they did not see much value in studying law related majors at the undergraduate level for one hoping to prep for law school/career as an attorney. My opinion and experienced knowledge differs (all of us have earned law degrees).

I can vouch for this program / major at Northwestern University:

It is a selective major as many apply. Incredible amount of individual attention is given to students. Absolutely brilliant students who are also motivated & hard-working. The standards are high.

Any letter of reference written by a professor from Northwestern’s legal studies major will/should reveal intimate knowledge of the student’s work ethic, work product, intelligence, and motivation. Very close working relationships are formed in this competitive major. Yet, one–with careful course selection-- should still be able to accomplish graduating with a triple major without any extra time spent in college beyond the typical 12 quarters. Results of some of the projects have changed lives in the real world.

Many universities & MBA programs offer courses in business law which are not, in my view, helpful for one with the desire to become a law student and, ultimately, to engage in the practice of law. Unhelpful because they teach too much certainty/too many rules when law is, in reality, as much of a form of art as it is a set of rules. Analytical thought, creative intelligence, a strong, determined work ethic, and the ability to express oneself in a clear, concise and effective fashion are the best attributes one can possess for the practice of law.

OP, I think that your interest in P,P, & E type majors is very reasonable for one planning to attend law school and to become a practicing attorney. Immerse yourself in an environment of intelligent, motivated achievers.

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Interesting major. A lot of the electives are interdisciplinary, not law based - and that seems neat combined with the advanced research project.

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Interesting. Didn’t know about this program. Learn something every day.

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Looks interesting - I’ll check it out :slight_smile: thank you!

Wow, this looks super helpful! Northwestern was already on my list but this makes me want to apply there even more :slight_smile: thank you so much!

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I have a kid that is doing legal studies minor at Penn and loves it!

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