Chances of getting into MIT or Stanford

I would tell him the same thing and I am telling you to prepare for all options. Studying abroad and within your home country. Have him do plenty research on both options.

@Gumbymom can I contact you through any other way

I would edit your post and remove your email immediately. I can PM you though this website.

@Gumbymom also tell me what a good international application looks like
If I work day and night I could get a internship at google/Microsoft as a software developer here in India as I have tremendous competitive programming skills
will that help me in admission process

@Gumbymom I didn’t understand by editing post what you meant ?

If you really want to study in the US, you will need to look beyond a few very very competitive US colleges. There are many poor international students wanting to study in the US, so colleges that give generous financial aid to internationals tend to be especially competitive. There is a forum for international students here at CC http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/international-students/

It is possible to find automatic merit scholarships (based on level of grades and scores) for international students that cover all of tuition, but finding a college that also pays for room and board (living expenses) can be more challenging.

Here is one example of a college where international students with high stats would be eligible for a full-tuition scholarship: https://www.uah.edu/admissions/undergraduate/financial-aid/scholarships/merit-tuition-scholarships . However, the student would still be responsible for living expenses around 15k per year (not including travel) and I’m not sure whether it’s possible for poor international students to overcome those costs, but perhaps it’s worth looking into.

You have 15 minutes from the time you post to hit the Wheel icon and remove your email. :wink:

Nothing wrong with going to an IIT and applying for grad school in the United States with the possibility of funding if your goal is a PhD.

OP, I give the same advice all the time, that a kid needs to be motivated to look at what the colleges want. That’s qualitative, not hierarchical (“better than” or won something. Or, wants to save the world, etc.) I’m sure many adults are sick of my refrain. But it comes from experience.

But this does motivate bright kids. None of getting into a tippy top US college is just what the applicant wants or needs. It’s what the college wants. And that’s more complex. No one, US or other, gets in because they just apply with stats and ECs, some wins.

It’s your choice whether to be motivated, to dig deeper, to self match, to understand more and fine tune…or to lean back and point fingers and discourage a young sibling.

Try it or not. Read the dang MIT admission blogs. Read all you can. Or get annoyed
Your choice. But I guarantee they don’t like “attidude,” that we’re being too tough on you.

@Hamurtle If I preparing for IIT and get accepted there then will never come to U.S I would be just working for some biggies like google but [ did I spend my entire nights for working for a company ] read my About My Great Indian Dream and that can be only fulfilled at Stanford or MIT

Guys it would be a great help if you converted my Indian 90% in CBSE board to US GPA half the confusion ends there

There are other top rate schools in the US not called Stanford or MIT And your dreams will not be shattered if you are not attending either. Do your research on schools that will grant merit aid to internationals.

It is not racist or xenophobic that US public schools do not grant financial aid to internationals. They are taxpayer funded and their mandate is to serve residents of their states. OOS students don’t get aid either.

Do your best, but be realistic. And don’t dismiss any advice if it isn’t exactly what you want to hear. Arguing back and forth will not help your cause.

OP, if you come across the same way as you did on this thread, you won’t get into any of those colleges you listed. None of items you listed will impress any of those colleges. As an international student needing a large amount of financial aid and from a country with numerous applicants, you belong to a group with the longest odds of getting into those colleges.

Still what 1 thing Could I do

I do not understand what you are trying to say here. I know some very successful, respected Indian people in the US and none of them attended Stanford or MIT. There are 3000 colleges in the US.

and guys by need blind you mean If I get admission they will provide me with aid { so getting an admission is important }

@evergreen5 sir you know some very successful Indians but still you used the word very , I mean becoming the next Sundar Pachai isn’t possible as there are only some and will be some

There is no point in converting. All admissions officers know how to view foreign grades; very few colleges ask to convert to a US GPA. But your GPA is quite respectable.

No. Need blind means that your FA need is not considered in the admissions process. What is more important is finding a college that meets 100% demonstrated need for international students. Please do not ask us for the list; it is easy enough to search for on Google.

It’s not demotivating; it’s a reality check. Acceptance into a highly ranked US university is difficult for international applicants. There should be no expectation that financial aid to any public institution is available for applicants who have not paid taxes to the state. While there are states where the main public universities give FA to out of state residents, California is not one of them.

@skieurope sir so you mean I am secure at GPA point of view and what do you think about my internship at codechef.com

I have a feeling that this thread will be closing pretty soon. People have given you advice and it is up to you to heed it or not. Please don’t argue or debate if it isn’t to your liking. The odds are not in your favor. Which is not to say that you’re a bad student or will not be successful in life. And success may not necessarily mean having a degree from a prestigious university.

I think Robert Burns was correct in the last line of his famous poem about the louse. We see ourselves from our own perspective and would do well to see ourselves from somebody else’s viewpoint.