That would be great
Hereās the thread for people who got waitlisted, I got waitlisted at Upenn last year and the thread was really helpful.
waitlisted at columbia, penn, and cornell and those were all of the ivy I applied to 
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Rejected. Today marks the end of all this for me; Iāve heard back from all the colleges I applied to. Very glad to be through, I guess Iāll miss having something to look forward to every now and then. Have a fantastic life everyone, regardless of where you go.
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Waitlisted.
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Waitlisted. So many on the waitlist.
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Accepted!
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accepted to columbia for engineering 
also accepted to brown & penn
waitlisted by berkeley, dartmouth, cornell, and duke
rejected by the big HYP 
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accepted to columbia cornell and nyu!! might commit to columbia!! 
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Iām guessing it will be a good year (relatively speaking) to be on the Columbia waitlist. They didnāt use it at all last year, but this year I bet they dip into it.
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why so? because of the protests?
Yes. Their Admitted Student Day is happening right in the middle of it today. The stuff on campus has always been tame but since the mass arrests it has drawn many non-student protesters, often less tame, outside of the campus entrance and caused them to lock the campus down. Many wonāt care, some will find it all the more reason to go, but Iām guessing more on the bubble with multiple great options will decide to avoid it than be drawn to it. The President and Trustees actions have put them at odds even with the majority of the faculty, who otherwise had been on the sidelines. It was the first time since 1968 that they had asked the police to make mass arrests and in '68 the students had taken over and barricaded buildings, were holding administration members hostage and had brought all campus activity to halt for a week.
Hereās a quote from Professor Michael Thaddeus, who is known for his whistleblower role in the Columbia US News ranking scandal. "Calling in police officers to arrest students engaged in peaceful protest on a campus lawn is a shocking act. It is totally contrary to our long-standing practice, and it is noxious to the purpose and spirit of a university. The overwhelming unpopularity of this move with both students and faculty indicates that our leadership sees itself as answerable only to the interests of trustees and donors.ā The organization that represents the faculty of Columbia and Barnard sent a letter of no confidence to the President. Regardless of what happens to the protests in a couple weeks when the semester ends, the relationship between the administration and the faculty and students will remain tense and possibly broken going into the next school year. (And other than show for Congress and their donors, it seems like it didnāt even accomplish its purpose since within hours people were camped on the lawn again and have been since.)
Great coverage of everything in the Columbia Spectator website and non-stop live discussion on the stream of the campus radio station (WKCR) if interested.
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thank you! wowā¦ itās worse than i thought. i might as well not send in a loci at this point
And they have now switched back to virtual classes only, two weeks before finals. Thereās a stand off on the lawn between the protesters and the school which is supposed to be setting up there for graduation. Many are worried graduation wonāt happen (for the same poor class of students who had their high school graduations canceled by Covid four years ago).
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what a shame. A bunch of students junking up the place - and at a time when prospective students are hoping to make final decisions about where to attend. This wouldnāt make me want to attend, thatās for sure. Peaceful protest is one thing, but when you trash a place, camp out and refuse to leave when there are other activities and people who need to use the space - that is just disrespectful.
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I saw it for myself. There were not ātrashingā the space. It looked more like a tame tailgate party. Fully contained in the designated area, lots of students and faculty coming and going, laughter, shared food and drink, etc. And it was/is peaceful for the majority of people the majority of the time (the student version on campus, not the off-campus version). Itās on a lawn that has been used for protests at Columbia for decades.
Note that a majority of the images and video of being shown in the media are off-campus protests going on just outside of Columbia on public streets by non-students. Columbia has no control over that and ironically (given the round up of the peaceful student protesters) the NYPD has mostly let that happen, except for a handful of people who did physical things or went into controlled zones. The groups that organized the student encampment on campus have also condemned some of the actions of those un-affiliated protestors, though that has not been widely reported by the media beyond the excellent Columbia press.
I suspect if the college hadnāt escalated to police in riot gear making arrests (of a group sitting on the ground, holding hands and singing songs) they would have moved before the graduation setup voluntarily, just as they have come and gone for the past 7 months. The new encampment since then is bigger than the first one. The arrests changed the climate and now far more students than had been part of the original protests have gotten involved. Alumni who were part of the 1968 protests have shown up in solidarity. There were even parents at admitted students day cheering them. Other encampments are showing up dozens of other schools, as far away as Australia. Yale just arrested students in one today. All of this is a reaction to the Columbia arrests. As often happens in such cases, the result of the crackdown was exactly the opposite of the goal.
Many people feel the stakes are bigger because its now a proxy for freedom versus suppression, that a bunch of ārich donorsā and politicians were able to get the new administration to abandon over 50 years of academic freedom and free speech to protect their jobs and donations. To be clear, Iām not offering an opinion ā just restating what many of them are saying.
But whatever the motivation or opinions, the arrests were a major escalation. Hard to guess where it ends as both sides are hardening their positions. The Columbia administration is now under attack from all sides from both those upset with what they did and those upset they didnāt do more since the encampment re-formed. Perhaps they will do another round of arrests. They are in the process of doubling the size of campus police now by adding over 100 officers. I could see them barring students from campus except for graduation and finishing the year virtually. I donāt see the university acquiescing to any of the protesters demands. But I also find it unlikely the new President last long.
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These are deeply divisive times. I was hugely tempted by Columbia but am pretty certain that I do not want my freshman year to be spent in the middle of this civil war.
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It will be interesting to eventually see Columbiaās yield rate this year.
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Itās possible that a few admitted students may chose to go elsewhere, but I suspect most share the same world view as the protesters and wonāt be the least bit dissuaded from enrolling. I could be wrongā¦.
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Accepted international applicants whose SAT R&W score was 700+ (provided that you are not native English speakers and did not attend a school with English-speaking curriculum), did you submit English proficiency test scores?
Sincerely, waitlisted international applicant who didnāt and currently considers taking DET to improve their chances