Coronavirus in the US

fwiw: Dr. Anthony Fauci, NIH, and world expert on infectious diseases, was front and center during today’s presser.

"Washington Gov. Jay Inslee said in a statement the person who died was a man from Washington state, but then issued another one removing the gender and describing the individual as “a Washingtonian.”

“We will continue to work toward a day where no one dies from this virus," the governor said.

https://apnews.com/f175d89567a26d59cab27725c9e8a0d7

And this is exactly why CDC does not have someone in Atlanta reviewing and republishing local press and health department reports every minute of the day. As the official scorekeeper, CDC needs to be 100% correct and if that takes some extra time to confirm intitial reports, so be it. (I realize that others may disagree and demand immediacy…)

I’m in King County, site of the recent death, four blocks from Snohomish County, where a teen was recently diagnosed and where the first U.S. diagnosis occurred.

People are stocking up on food, etc.—after all, who wants to have to go buy toilet paper or dog food when you’re sick?—but no one seems to be panicking. The proof: the local TV stations are still running regularly scheduled sporting events, not apocalypse warnings (as we get for snow). ; )

@anomander if you wait until after someone coughs…it’s too late…you could have already inhaled the offending particles.

@BunsenBurner am I wrong about this? I’ve heard of several people who are carrying masks “in case someone near them starts to cough”.

So, I’m aware of 3 cases in Washington State:

A man who was confirmed back in January
The teen boy who was a presumptive case yesterday.
A woman in her 50s who recently traveled to Daegu South Korea.

Based on the description, are we assuming it was the woman? Or someone else?

Apparently there are several current cases in Washington. And the person who died was in the hospital nearest us.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/department-health-confirms-first-coronavirus-death-washington-state/XIDPHMLVOJAAREQ5YCL75367PU/

For someone with access, which CDC certainly has, pinning down that info would take less than 5 minutes. Let’s not pretend this is harder than it is. If they wanted to inform more timely, they certainly can. They are choosing not to do so.

I think a different woman died. The one who had traveled to South Korea is improving.
https://wcti12.com/news/nation-world/first-us-death-in-washington-state

I am not hearing/reading too many people who have contracted the disease and then recovered. Do we know how long it takes to recover or what it is like while infected? Is it just like a cold or does it feel horrible?

So more than the 2 from last night and an undetermined number, it looks like.

“Health officials said there are new King County cases in addition to the two new cases confirmed Friday evening.”

The article says the woman in her 50s is recovering fine.

So, basically who knows how many and who…

I posted something a day or two back that showed worldwide that over 30k had recovered. eta: this website has 39K+ recovered.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

and a bunch of info on symptoms and such:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-symptoms/

Some people experience no symptoms, some just like a cold. And then, some die. So it seems like it is all over the map. I’ve read it can take many weeks to completely recover.

The man diagnosed back in January is fully recovered.

The woman in her 50s is doing fine apparently per local news. At home.

The teen boy went to school but was sent home. The school is being cleaned over the weekend.

https://www.king5.com/mobile/article/news/health/coronavirus/washington-coronavirus-update/281-e73682dc-dad7-4b6e-b0ec-d2234ff9e2e0

Here’s an update on the dog in Hong Kong that tested positive for the virus. It was tested again on the next day and still tested positive. Health officials wonder if a pet can be a “surface” that the virus can live on without infecting the pet.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3052874/coronavirus-no-need-panic-hong-kong-veterinarians
…“There is no need to panic. There is no evidence yet that the virus can infect dogs, cats or other domestic animals,” he said. “It’s possible that the dog had the virus due to environmental contamination. A dog can be an object that carries the virus the same way as anything else, like a tissue.”…

…“The dog tested weak positive from the nasal and mouth swab, not from a blood test. It’s quite possible that it is from the dog contacting the owner or being in the same environment with the owner,” Dr David Gething of Creature Comforts said…

There are so many unknowns, but here is some info from the European Center for Disease Prevention and Control:

“ The evidence gathered so far from an analysis of COVID-19 cases is that COVID-19 infection causes mild disease (i.e. non-pneumonia or mild pneumonia) in about 80% of cases. More severe disease occurs in about 20% of cases, with about one in four or five experiencing critical illness. The great majority of the most severe forms of illness, and deaths, have occurred among the elderly, particularly those with other chronic illnesses.”

So, for 80% of people it would feel like anything ranging from nothing to a milder case of the flu.

Here’s a link to the ECDC site: https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/current-risk-assessment-novel-coronavirus-situation

Wow, Evergreen Health, that’s the hospital nearest me and the one I like the most. Dang, I guess this is my neighborhood, and the woman is my age, with no known travel. Sounds like this could have been any of us.

If you have noticed, this area became very popular with Asian immigrants. I drive by one school close to that hospital, and the kids who walk to school are 80% Asian. I assume they have relatives in Asia and there has been travel back and forth during the holidays.

@busdriver11 - the woman who died apparently had a preexisting condition.

FRANCE - France has 100 confirmed cases of coronavirus, raising the tally from 73 earlier today, so up 43 today. Of those cases, two people have died, 12 have recovered and 86 are in hospital, nine of them in a serious condition.

NETHERLANDS - 2more people confirmed increasing the total number of the cases to 6 - the wife and daughter of the country’s first coronavirus patient tested positive.

Asking again…does it do any good to carry a N95 mask in a carry on bag…so you can put it on after the person next to you starts to cough?