We’ve covered the options of delivery and curbside pickup numerous times on this thread. The issue is whether someone’s civil liberties are violated because they are being denied physical entry into a store. Of course retailers have policies and do their best to enforce them- especially if it is a state or local order. Hiring a bouncer or security guard is done on occasion, but then don’t yowl when the cost of items was raised to account for this.
@emilybee, you have never worked retail nor have your children. If you think some teen earning $7.25/hour is going to lead the charge on this issue, you are wrong. Your family can stand outside a store to enforce the rule if you care that much. Our police have more important things to do.
Agree with most of this. I grew up in Michigan and hunting wild turkey or deer with a rifle was very, very common. I never saw any other type of gun and only saw the rifles while hunting. No one ever walked into store openly carrying a gun, unless they were robbing the store. I’m pretty sure that we had a 2nd Amendment back in the 60s.
Have you checked with quest diagnostics? (They are offering tests by self-referral.)
Would they be looking for a location where they can have most of the seating outdoors?
I volunteer at a charity thrift store that hoped to open on May 20 (I’m not allowed to volunteer right now because I am over 65…but that’s a whole other discussion).
They need ONE plexiglass shield for their one register station. They can’t figure out why theirs isn’t being delivered. Seriously? I would imagine the places selling hundreds of these to one vendor would do those orders first.
What I’m trying to figure out is why their chamber of commerce didn’t do a batch order for these smaller businesses.
Last I heard, they hoped their shield would arrive and be installed tomorrow…so they can open Wednesday…after they somehow train a full new crew of folks under 60 to do the registers (yes, they want under 60 because they don’t want anyone to age out…don’t get me going).
My post about accommodations was not in reference to the possibly violent. I don’t expect anyone to risk their life in confronting those numbskulls. It was in reference to the idea of people using faux-ADA identification who threaten to sue, which seems to be the intent of the trend of making laminated cards that spell out the lawsuit threat. Those numbskulls can be told, with a smile, that the store will be happy to get their groceries for them.
My sister retired a few years ago after working at public libraries in large cities. She and colleagues did not enjoy dealing with patrons who didn’t follow the rules. Doing so could be scary. Some of the branches had security guards, and they were summoned when necessary, but who wants to even get into such situations?
Libraries in some areas also become havens for homeless who annoy other patrons and think the library bathroom is their personal domain. It’s tricky dealing with the public—sometimes security is hired, which adds to costs.
Not sure how library costs would rise (maybe copying costs or late fee costs?) but there is a cost to doing business. If sales drop, costs could rise to compensate. It’s likely more customers would want to come to a store where they feel safe, and the cost of a few security guards isn’t going to increase costs all that much. Small price to pay.
I think it adds to costs of have a library in that venue and reduced the # of patrons — those factors are weighed in considering which locations to keep open, close, remodel, etc.
Similarly I suspect those issues would be weighed for Store venues.
Let me know when you find the store that hires security guards (not cheap, by the way) just to enforce the mask requirement. Not many customers are going to know that a couple defiant folks slipped through and in such a way as to make others feel unsafe.
It’s easy to tell who has no idea how business works.
I am wondering if it would really be the case. A retail establishment is not a public place. My understanding is as long as the same rule applied to everyone and you didn’t purposely disadvantage certain group of people then it should be ok. Of course, I am not a lawyer.
I do prescreenings for a security company. I know how much they are paid. The price of a few security guards is likely a lot less than the litigation Wal-mart is facing in El Paso. It isn’t simply the absence of masks that worry people. It is the idiots without the masks with an agenda and a gun. There are plenty of people who know how business works. Sarcasm and insults are unnecessary and unhelpful in discussions.
When I went to the earalybird old geezer shopping hour at the supermarket a whild back, I was politely asked by the greeter at the door if I was ovver 60. I told him if social distancning wasn’t a thing I’d kiss him 
He asked politely and I answered politely. No one has to be a butthole when politely asked to follow the store policy.
I said that is the issue. The answer is, as you surmised, no. As long as there are other methods by which they can acquire goods and services, they don’t have a civil right to enter the store.
New crop of cases regarding AAADA and gift cards and whether it is a violation of the AAADA for the gift cards not to be in braille. Many cases have been filed all at once in NY- the first decision slapped the theory down.
IMO, the real reason some on here are so vocal that it’s ok to let the jerk customers do what ever the heck the want is because they don’t believe in the city ordinances and businesses that require masks. That’s the real issue, right? These rules are taking away from peoples personal freedoms. Don’t tread on me…
Because there is no reasonable defense of letting customers do whatever the hell they want to do inside your place of business. Because, well, if you enforce the rules, you will be shot.
If a really drunk person enters your place of business, no problem let him do whatever he wants to do because he might dangerous and god forbid you call the police because they have better things to do?
The lady who brings her Pomeranian dog into a nice restaurant and sits down (saw this happen). Don’t say anything, it doesn’t matter if it’s unsanitary, against city ordinances and OSHA, etc. Let them be. Don’t say anything, she may sic her dog on you?
And if you have a policy to not allow people in who are maskless and you you go ahead and let them, did you consider that you might be putting all of your law abiding customers, staff and yourself at potential risk. Yep, that seems like the right thing to do and long as the rule breakers are happy.
And then you wonder why your local Home Depot and Target have half the people in the store without masks on because you either have no back bone to enforce your own policies or you don’t believe those policies in the first place.
Let the jerks and rule breakers win…well done…smh.
Masks have been required indoors here since May 1, and everywhere I have been has 100% compliance. Non-issue.
Our grocery store put in a bit of extra insurance, though… they put a young lady with downs syndrome at the door as a greeter. She greets, disinfects the carts and has masks to offer up (never seen any takers because compliance is already excellent). She shares my daughter’s name, so I have a soft spot for her. She is lovely, always happy, friendly and smiling, a fixture of the store, if you will, having worked there since it opened. If anyone gave her a lick of trouble, I’d bet five or six other customers would have that person on their butt on the street in no time, before store management made the 30’ dash over to help.
Quarantine fatigue is bad here and people are restless, but that is not translating into rebellion against masks in our neck of the woods. People are ready to open up, but they seem content having safety measures in place.
Here’s a nice article on how theaters plan to open. For some, leaving their house is terrifying right now, but I would personally feel safe with some of the plans these guys are making. They stay they can still be profitable at a lower capactity too.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/25/what-will-movie-theaters-look-like-after-coronavirus-shutdowns.html
That’s about as wrong as you could be @socaldad2002 I support the mask requirements completely and wear mine when inside a business or the like. I haven’t heard anyone from the major retail companies disparage the mask requirements. The issues involved where to get enough masks, how to train on proper wearing and cleanliness, how to handle heat and discomfort and dealing with the requests for accommodations. There is clearly some difference of opinion on how useful the masks are, but most people I know buy into the “if you happen to be sick, the mask will protect others” theory. This is all new to everyone, including retailers. Masks are not comfortable for employees and, yes, there are the civil liberty folks. I think everyone is doing the best that they can. Not every city or county requires masks for employees or customers, and that can lead to lesser compliance even when a retailer has gone “mask required” by its own decsion.
Maine registrations rise as seasonal residents trade in out-of-state plates
Some people who pay taxes on Maine property and live in the state part of the year now want Maine license plates to avoid public shaming, say town officials…
TREMONT — Some seasonal residents are opting for Maine license plates during this time of COVID-19 to avoid public shaming, according to town officials.
Lots of people are transferring their plate registrations because of dirty looks, Town Manager Chris Saunders told members of the board of selectmen during their Monday night meeting.
“Typically, we do about two per month,” Saunders said in an email to the Islander. “I can tell you that we have done 10 out-of-state transfers since April 14 … This is a significant increase.”
Mount Desert Town Clerk Clair Woolfolk said she has been getting multiple calls every day and emails from folks looking for a new registration in Maine. Woolfolk explained transfers and new vehicle registrations all fall under new registrations.
“We’re not actually doing them because we’re not open to the public,” said Woolfolk from the town office earlier this week.
“I’ve had a few people comment about getting the stink eye,” said Woolfolk. She went on to say that another man told her about being hassled at the store because of his New York license plates.
On April 1, shortly after Gov. Janet Mills issued an executive order for residents to stay safe and stay home, Maine State Police put a statement on their Facebook page addressing treatment of folks with out-of-state license plates.
“State police have received recent reports of motorists with out-of-state plates being confronted and harassed, and advise Maine residents that if they have concerns about this issue to contact local or state police. Some of these vehicles are likely to be operated by people who are working here in the state…”
There are many reasons for people to have out-of-state plates on their vehicles, such as temporary essential workers, car rentals, military personnel and traveling nurses. While we appreciate this is a time of high anxiety, confronting those with non-Maine license plates is unacceptable and residents with concerns should contact Maine law enforcement. Please exercise restraint and common sense during this time of tension. We want everyone to stay safe and stay healthy.”
One of Maine’s primary economic drivers is tourism. The coming months are bound to be full of high emotions as people migrate here, like they would any other year, to take in a lobster roll and a view of the ocean. People who pay taxes on property and reside in the state for part of the year are looking for ways to blend into their community more during that time.
When asked if new registrations were up in Southwest Harbor, Deputy Town Clerk Debbie Clark said she had seen an increase.
“We’ve seen a lot of seasonal and also a lot of people moving here,” said Clark. She, along with other town office staff, is working limited hours in the building since the office was closed to the public in March. “I would say since we’ve been closed, I’ve seen an increase,” she added. “I’ve had a few that have residences here and elsewhere.”
Clark also noted seeing a vehicle with out-of-state plates parked at the drugstore in town with words painted on it telling people the owner works at the hospital.
The typical timeframe for someone to receive a new Maine title is about six weeks. Because of COVID-19, all Maine BMV offices are closed to the public, but a limited number of staff are working to process paperwork. Because of this, new Maine titles may take as much as two months before they are received.
“If they are here in person, they can come in once we open and we can do it all here,” said Woolfolk, who expects the Mount Desert town office to open at some point in June. “I expect once we get our doors open, we’re going to be super busy doing new car registrations, probably for the next two months.”
https://www.pressherald.com/2020/05/20/drive-like-a-local-maine-registrations-surge-2/