This BBC report deals with lung damage in those who have been hospitalized and references some data from China along with thoughts from UK doctors:
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53065340
At least it’s a start. I wonder about those who haven’t been though, like my lad. Hopefully he’ll get better with time.
I just heard Mary Carillo being interviewed on MSNBC. She was talking about professional and high-level amateur (e.g., New York Marathon) sports generally and tennis specifically. She said something about Novak Djokovic that she acknowledged is true of many other individuals, within and outside sports: “He does not believe in the sanctity of science. This scares the hell out of me.”
It’s not hard to make informed decisions. We should be making these decisions based on what’s being reported. Stats mean nothing for an individuals chances of a bad outcome. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
What do belief or sanctity have to do with science? One of the many reasons I avoid MSNBC.
Economists, even famous PhD economists with Nobel prizes, can’t predict the economy.
Meteorologists can’t predict the weather, much less climate.
Geologists can’t predict earthquakes.
Scientists are not fortune tellers. They can explain why things happen, but can’t know enough to predict the future.
That doesn’t mean I don’t respect scientists. I do, at least some of them. But I don’t expect them to predict the future with any specificity, and don’t rely on them to set public policy.
He’s being call Novaxx Djokovid in TennisWorld now.
He’s been known as having screwy ideas for years now - like you can change the molecular properties of water with your mind. But now he’s endangered others with his idiocy. And I’m not excusing those who willingly played in his exhibition and had no problems going to the nightclubs, playing basketball, soccer, hugging on the court, shaking hands and the dozens of other things they did that had those of us watching in disbelief.
There were players who were invited to play (Milos Raonic for one) who were smart enough to know this was extremely dangerous because no protections were in place - and turned down the invitation. He was interviewed on a pod I listened to last night, so this is not just something I read.
Djokovic has some views about science that are out of the mainstream. For example, he opposes vaccination. He organized a tennis event and did not require anti-COVID-19 measures. He contracted COVID-19, probably at a social gathering that was part of the tennis event. Other participants contracted the disease as well. All might spread it to other people.
Djokovic is my favorite tennis player, but I think he made a big mistake by allowing this event to take place without appropriate health measures in place.
He contracted it as did his wife, another player and his 8 month pregnant wife, two other players, two coaches, and a NBA basketball player and a famous Serbian actor who participated in the extracurricular games and the clubbing - where they were all dancing shirtless. And these are only the ones we know about.
And they played the matches in stadiums filled with several thousand people not wearing masks or social distancing at all.
While the numbers in NJ are still generally declining, my county saw the biggest increase in yesterday’s reporting. Not surprising, as we are at the shore and it is high tourist season, but concerning nonetheless. In addition, the biggest increase in rate of infection appears to be in the 18-29 y/o demographic. Again, not surprising - if my D20’s friends are any indication, there’s not a whole lot of social distancing going on anymore 
NY, NJ, and CT governors have announced a regional quarantine for visitors from out of their states’ hot spots. More info to come.
No one can totally predict the future, but weathermen are more correct than the cashier at my local store. Hurricanes killed far more people in the past because they had no one able to warn them about their coming. Today they only kill a few, and those usually didn’t leave when it was recommended they do so. Weathermen might not get exactly where they hit accurately days out, but they are often pretty darn close - again - more than anyone without experience and equipment.
Those who work in their respective fields (medical, research, etc) also tend to be far more accurate than both the average person on the street or even the above average person in a totally unrelated field.
I definitely would trust them more than anyone else setting public policy even if they aren’t perfect with their predictions and adjust their thoughts as they learn more (as they should with something new).
Politicians without sufficient content experience (or advisors with the experience) are the scary ones to me.
Infection rate formula will be 10 per 100000 people on a 7 day rolling average or 10% positivity rate or above of total population, will be subject to 14 day quarantine.
As of today these are the states that meet that criteria:
Alabama
Arkansas
Arizona
Florida
North Carolina
South Carolina
Washington
Utah
Texas
NYS percent positivity rate as of yesterday was 1.1% out of a total of 51,000 tests.
NY, NJ and CT have no fear. Why anyone would want to travel to a crowded hot spot is beyond me.
I think this pandemic may induce some societal change. I’m reading surveys and reports from various places that people are moving or considering moving out of crowded cities and into more rural areas. So I really don’t see anyone wanting to do vacation travel to any cities just now.
NY, NJ, and CT are no longer hot spots.
It’s not for me, but NYC is always popular. Oodles of people love it. They are reopening now, so I’m sure the appeal is there for many.
Other areas of NY are also popular in the summer. Adirondacks, Thousand Islands, St Lawrence River Valley, Lake Ontario, Niagara Falls, Finger Lakes, Long Island, State Parks, etc, etc, etc, all get a lot of summer vacationers from all over.
NJ has many popular beaches. I’m not familiar with them, but I suspect CT does too.
Currently one family of our neighbors is in Orlando doing the tourist stuff (Sea World and Universal last I knew, but maybe more too). They say few are there and it’s easy to go to the rides, etc. To each our own I guess, but I sure hope they don’t bring anything back with them. (Orlando in the summer really doesn’t appeal to me either, but certainly not now.)
I am a little worried as well. DD started to get together with her friends, 2/3 at at time. She also plans to go to her friend’s beach house next weekend with 8 others. But they are still not hugging, sitting next to each other, arms on each other, etc… like they used to. They keep their appropriate distance, wash hands, sneeze away from everyone else. No mask and not always 6 feet, but they definitely behave different than they did before. I can only speak for DD’s group of friends, though. Others, not so sure. I’ve seen FB pictures with kids together, but then not sure if they keep a little more distance off camera.
@rosered55 – oh yeah they are.
In my state (LA), the largest age group for infection in now 18-29. Not just new infections, but all infections.
Until recently, the largest age group for infections was 50-59, and it formed a bell with decreasing numbers for older people and for younger people. Now it’s more like the shape of a mesa, with most age groups about the same and under 18 much lower. Ages 60-69 are the lowest of the other groups (7014 cases) and 18-29 are the highest (8947 cases). I’m pretty surprised.
Good recommendations on staying safe from one local startup.
@TatinG one of our kids lives in AZ. We had hoped he could come and visit for a week or so at the end of July. It sounds like that might not be possible now. And that makes me sad.
I want to travel from CT to another state. Will I be required to quarantine for 14 days when i get back (I will if this is the requirement).
That’s just plain not true. Obviously, one never knows whether or not they will turn out to be the statistical anamoly, but there’s a reason people diagnosed with a serious illness are a lot happier to hear their disease has a 98 % survival rate than to hear their disease has a 2 % survival rate.