Coronavirus thread for June

Any future math class dealing with exponents will certainly have real life examples to use.

Texas governor just announced that all bars must close. (at noon today)

The horse is out of the barn, but hopefully the barn fire can be put out now.

@“Youdon’tsay”

The restaurant where H works in NE Illinois has been doing well. At least 2 weeks have beaten last year’s sales.

Although not yet open to inside dining, carry out business has been strong & well above pre-pandemic times. With the patio open, numbers are up to normal. For now!

I work for people who own 2 restaurants. One is down about $2000-6000 per week, compared to normal times. That one will likely make it, as the owners can withstand operating at a loss for some time. Salaries have been switched to hourly and payroll is smaller.

Their other restaurant is bleeding money even with a skeletal staff. I do not think they will view that one as viable and I expect them to cut their losses & close it.

The fixed expenses at the second location are significantly higher than the first.

Observation - my friend who owns a small financial firm (20 employees) said she has the BEST 3 months since she opened the business 20 years ago. Wow, good for her. A friend who is a VP at a bank said everything is fine at his company. More work, more transactions mean more profits, doesn’t matter the state of the economy.

Makes me think of @privatebanker due to his username. What is your take on this, do you mind sharing?

I am thrilled bars are closing. Hope they close everywhere.

And I apologize to @creekland, who I agree is one of the best posters here.

I’m heading out to mow the field, but checked school email first and as promised the compiled data from our poll a week or two ago has been shared.

Over 15% consider themselves at high risk as per CDC guidelines (this would have been before the BMI change) and over 25% live with someone who is high risk (could overlap with the 15%).

Roughly 62% are very or fairly comfortable returning to school in person in the fall.

Over 15% are very or fairly not comfortable returning.

The rest are unsure (likely waiting to see what happens).

68% feel staff should wear masks either full time or under special circumstances

31% feel they should not, of those over 7% say they will not.

I feel for those having to make school decisions for the fall!

Educationally it’s an average school as per nationwide test scores and such things. I have no idea if we’re Covid average or not, but there’s a data point for folks who are interested. The poll surveyed staff from all schools and there’s no break down of results per age group. I wish there were. 36% of those who answered work in our elementary schools. 29% work in the high school. The rest are in the middle grades.

Thanks, @Midwest67 I was hoping that curbside pickup and delivery would offset the loss of dining-room seating. Dh and I would have date night and go out to eat every week, and now we’ve just changed that to curbside pickup. Unfortunately, we’ve also had some local institutions close after decades of success. They were more central city with high-dollar rents, more destination places with ambience. I know that I felt bad that it never occurred to me that THOSE were the kinds of places I should have been getting food from because of the higher overhead. Oh, well.

Well I’ve just barely edged into the high risk category with the BMI change. It made me more afraid of the virus, I must admit. I hope that it’s not really a solid line as my BMI is less than one over the new guideline. It does make me wish it were easier to lose weight, but I do what I can and will continue to try my best to stay healthy. There must be a lot more people like me who are now thrust into thinking it’s a lot more dangerous for themselves personally than it seemed previously.

Maryland’s numbers for today:

Positivity rate (7 day) down 0.13% to 4.92%. Daily rate of 4.85%.

Total hospitalizations down 24 to 487. Covid ICU usage down 19 to just 190.

Overall numbers in a state of 6 million in the Washington/Baltimore metropolitan region.

66,115 total cases

12,462 total cases associated with nursing home type facilities (staff and patient).

3,015 deaths.

1859 deaths from nursing home patients alone. 61% of total deaths.

Total deaths under age 60 = 381

Deaths under 70= 869

Deaths under 80 = 1605

Deaths over 80 = 1389.

Just some numbers to look at.

I’m very happy with the direction that Maryland is moving.

Florida closing bars, too.

“With Friday’s tally, Florida now has reported nearly 123,000 coronavirus case, with more than 32,000 of them confirmed in just the last seven days.”

“Gov. Ron DeSantis’ edict was conveyed by Halsey Beshears, the Secretary of Department of Business and Professional Regulation, in a Tweet.”

“Effective immediately, the Department of Business and Professional Regulation is suspending on premises consumption of alcohol at bars statewide.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-close-bars-limit-restaurant-dining-due-explosion-covid-19-n1232233

@“Youdon’tsay”

For sure, in the March, the owners considered just closing both places and declaring bankruptcy, then starting over when things normalize. “There are going to be a LOT of empty restaurants available when this is over!”

They were not sure it was worth the risk taking the PPP loans, but in the end decided to take the loan and see what sales would be like.

I think it will be different in the fall & winter when patio season in NE Illinois is over and people might be afraid to dine inside, even with capacity limits.

Lastly, the owners of the place I work for and where H works all have high earning day jobs/main businesses and can tolerate some degree of loss in their “hobby” restaurants.

If the restaurants were their primary source of income, it would be very different story.

Local news just reported that there are now 64 confirmed covid cases from that bar in Lansing, MI. 34-ish cases yesterday, almost twice as many today.

So the good news is someone is contact tracing? I hope the public health officials are on it and people cooperate with quarantining themselves. Stop that transmission chain!

There’s an interesting ruling out of the N.D. of New York.

https://www.newsday.com/news/region-state/new-york-religious-gathering-restriction-1.46135503

Basically, because Gov. Cuomo and Mayor De Blasio allowed and tacitly endorsed the Floyd marches, they cannot enforce shutdown rules against religious gatherings any differently. Violation of First Amendment as such enforcement would selectively burden religious observances. They are restrained from enforcing any limitations for outdoor gatherings provided social distancing requirements are met.

The judge cited the selective enforcement of the rules as the reason for the ruling on a preliminary injunction.

Soos v. Cuomo.

Interesting news from Nashville …

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2020/06/26/metro-nashville-parents-have-choose-between-person-remote-learning-fall/3264076001/

Personally I’ve gained a good 15+ pounds since things closed down, as for a couple of months apparently my coping mechanism was to BAKE almost every day. And then eat the things I baked. And this weight is putting me close to the high risk category myself.

UGH! But I’m getting geared up to go low carb (which has worked in the past) and devote my spare bandwidth to cooking and eating healthy. Maybe those of us trying to lose COVID risky weight should start a support thread??

It’s interesting that you like to cite how great Maryland is doing and yet it ranks #6 in deaths per state population (2.5 deaths per 5,000) but is only #19 in state population. Below is the table (sorry if the format is not great lol):

State Population Deaths Death rate Per 5,000
 New Jersey 8,882,190 14,946 0.001683 8.413465598
 New York 19,453,561 31,301 0.001609 8.045056635
 Mass 6,949,503 7,963 0.001146 5.729186677
 Michigan 9,986,857 6,134 0.000614 3.071036263
 Illinois 12,671,821 6,810 0.000537 2.687064472
 Maryland 6,045,680 3,147 0.000521 2.602684892
 Penn 12,801,989 6,580 0.000514 2.56991316
 Indiana 6,732,219 2,595 0.000385 1.927299156
 Colorado 5,758,736 1,669 0.000290 1.44910272
 Georgia 10,617,423 2,745 0.000259 1.292686559
 Ohio 11,689,100 2,772 0.000237 1.18572003
 Arizona 7,278,717 1,495 0.000205 1.026966703
 Virginia 8,535,519 1,703 0.000200 0.997596045
 Washingto 7,614,893 1,290 0.000169 0.847024377
 Missouri 6,137,428 969 0.000158 0.789418629
 Florida 21,477,737 3,327 0.000155 0.77452294
 California 39,512,223 5,807 0.000147 0.734835901
 Wisconsin 5,822,434 766 0.000132 0.657800501
 North Car. 10,488,084 1,291 0.000123 0.615460364
 Tennessee 6,833,174 567 0.000083 0.414887723
 Texas 28,995,881 2,317 0.000080 0.399539507

Yes! But all of those states (above) have already gone through a painful first wave.

Pull up any of the above states on the STAT News site, and you will see the current numbers of cases falling. For Illinois, it’s a dramatic plummet.

I can’t claim to understand why that is so, as I see a LOT of people out and about, plus have friends who are getting together with other friends. Patio dining has been open for weeks. Indoor dining starts tonight.

https://www.statnews.com/feature/coronavirus/covid-19-tracker/

Click on United States > Illinois

Declining positivity rate especially under 5% is a good thing, it reflects lots of testing.

Declining hospitalizations is a good thing.

Declining ICU admissions also good.

Let’s hope we all see good trends.

Well, I am in NJ and I’m also pretty happy today? We’ve been through a very rough couple of months but our numbers seem to be on the decline. I’m happy with how our governor has handled things. People are venturing out more and things are opening but I do see a lot of caution-masks and social distancing-in effect. I looked at the numbers for my county in NJ on Monday and there are roughly 6000 people infected, 692 had died, and of those 692 roughly 500 (slightly more) were nursing home residents. I really hope we can continue to reopen with caution and not have to backtrack.