We should be getting some side effect reporting from China now, as it has been 5-6 months, and data should come from Europe soon as Well
Disappointing but not a surprise. As I reported a couple of weeks ago, ever since the SAH was lifted the tourists are all back (tons of NY license plates) and I’m seeing less mask wearing. Hopefully increased infections don’t get to the point where the hospitals are overwhelmed. Locally our largest hospital (around 800 beds) is down to almost no C19 in the ICU (think the number was 2) a few days ago, so maybe that will hold.
Once I discovered the 3rd party sources for driving tests, Licenses, and other services I’ve never again stepped foot into our DMV. Days added to my life.
Imagine it was 1492 and the first case of measles in your continent happened. No one had ever had them before and there were no vaccines. That’s exactly what happened, to deadly effect.
Re: DMV I learned that there is a private place, but it is over an hour away in the middle of nowhere. So I’ll have to call on Monday to see if they can do it before we trek out there, because I checked on appointments and there’s none at all anywhere within 1:30 of me until mid July. That won’t work unless he just does the renters insurance on his own and we worry about this mess later.
Who are some of the smart minds? I assume you mean nationally-respected experts.
Exactly, people are doing whatever is convenient for them. Look at the thread about traveling. People can justify just about anything they want to do. Or the thread about teens having a curfew. Why would they need a curfew if they were quarantining? Visiting boyfriends or grandchildren or having lunch with someone passing through town? It’s all fine if YOU decide it is, but then don’t think others should do it your way.
Re: the continued posting of the whatever the WaPo or NYT, etc. considers to be the latest area to see a surge in cases… or, put another way, proof everyone who isn’t staying home is trying to kill someone’s grandma or their own… except fo protestors & rioters.
The list of false alarms is long, but I’ll just throw out Alabama as an example. They were surging (saw it here first but then realized it was likely just creative averaging by a preferred media outlet).
Whatever. The state did see an increase in cases at one point, now cases are declining again. You can find daily data, here, for individual states: http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/
Lest someone decide I’m saying they won’t go back up - I’m not.
But, since there’s never been a clearly articulated reason to continue killing our economy - and our citizens - with shut-down, I not sure why it would matter if they did.
Not in direct response to anyone, just in general, I find it so interesting that everyone. is concerned about killing grandma, when grandpa is more at risk. What’s that about?
Good question. Certainly there are more old women than there are old men. Maybe we like our grandmas more than we like our grandpas.
But you are right that the men seem much more at risk. More male deaths over the age of 80, even though there are many more women that age.
Given the differences in life expectancy, I suppose a lot more people have a living elderly grandma than grandpa.
There are more women reported to have contracted Covid19 but more men who have died. At one point I saw numbers of those of a certain age (70+? 80+?) where 57% of the cases were in women, but 51% of the deaths were in men.
This has probably been shared, but in case it hasn’t, it’s an interesting NYT article in mask wearing in the south https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/01/opinion/coronavirus-face-mask-south.amp.html
Watching the peaceful protests on CNN, man is that A LOT of people packed tightly together for an extended period of time.
And if someone is comfortable going on with their life while taking reasonable precautions, don’t act like they are killing Grandma or Grandpa. (Grandpa might already be dead)
The protests are likely spreading the virus. That makes my heart ache as do the reasons they are protesting. It is an all around tragic situation in my opinion and very concerning.
It isn’t just that. We are seeding for the fall and winter with what happens now. And that doesn’t even count those who get the long term lung damage, etc but aren’t necessarily in the hospital. I think that I likely had it back in March and I haven’t felt 100% since then and wonder if I have some long term stuff going on myself. On the minor side but hasn’t gone away yet. Talked to my doctor and he said what I described isn’t unusual.
NYC is ‘closer’ to achieving that but nowhere close.
The places with Ros over 1 are what are concerning. There are too many very close to 1, at 1 or over 1 that are opening up and doing more and more. Exponential growth worries me.
I was watching a protest video from, I dunno, a city somewhere in the US. It was dark, people were peacefully standing, holding lights (or maybe cellphones, lit), not really that close, and there was a singer singing “Lean On Me.” Then he had the crowd join in, and they did, singing and swaying, and one part of my brain was thinking this is so sweet, and another part was thinking, NO STOP DON’T SING.
But the scenario that I think most dangerous for peaceful protesters is being arrested and held in a covid-y jail. Being inside in a jail is a lot more dangerous a priori than being outside in a crowd.
Here in WA today was the highest new case number I have seen in awhile, 449, although only 4 deaths.
Our state is opening county by county, and the Seattle area clearly wasn’t going to get to the daily 15 cases per 100,000 threshold needed to get to phase 2 of reopening, so Inslee moved the goalpost to 25 per 100,000 which we just scooted under and now restaurants, retail, salons and barbershops can open at reduced capacity in King County. I heard the announcement yesterday afternoon and already there were people at neighborhood restaurants for dinner last night!
@Cardinal Fang am I correct that you are in Seattle (or am I mixing you up with someone else?). If so what do you think of all this? I worry that our state cases are or will be on an upswing just as things open up.