I thought we were supposed to start anew here (with a new focus posed by @CC_adminJon) and leave the old thread behind…
I am confused on the potential of testing and contact tracing. It seems to be key to the success of some countries. Is it possible here? I really don’t know. It seems that things are too far gone right now, but maybe if the cases get really low we can try that approach. Testing is only helpful if people are traced and can isolate. Will people use state-provided dorms for isolation if needed?
I am reading every article I can on possible treatments, as well as vaccines. I try to read those whenever they pop up, and share them. We need hope.
We reopened in many states with the numbers still too high for contact tracing to be effective, imo. Many states opened without meeting the metrics necessary to control the spread. Add in lax guidelines and our population’s behavior and any notion of controlling it enough is in the toilet. We will be back where we were in the middle of March in no time.
We will have to pivot again to mitigation (SAH.)
It seems cases are low enough in many areas that contact tracing is possible…all states are trying to ramp up their hiring and training of contact tracers, but it’s difficult to know exactly what the capacity is right now. All states already had contact tracers working in their various state and county public health departments, so the capacity is not zero.
Testing is still helpful even without sufficient contact tracing, because many who test positive will isolate themselves…not all will, but many will.
The resources being invested in treatments and vaccines is truly inspiring. But getting a vaccine thru the development process, and manufactured in adequate supply, and dosing people in the US/World all in the next year, or two, or three, is a moonshot. Not that we shouldn’t be hopeful, of course.
I concur. What happens in the next few weeks will inform us about the spread of the virus. I will be watching very closely.
Any news on faster tests becoming available widely?
My mom spent a few days in the hospital, then, as before, was released for rehab to the skilled nursing wing of her retirement community. But because she was outside the community for a few days, she is in quarantine and can’t start rehab until her Covid test comes back positive. That swab was taken Wednesday, and she is still in quarantine. No visitors/family allowed since March, no private aides since April, no rehab. She gets meals and meds and that’s it for human contact. At 94, she’s having trouble deciding how much of this she wants to take, not sure she can survive to the other side.
I understand that nursing homes are under close scrutiny now, and they should be. Faster testing would help them stay safer. And more humane.
In most cities peaceful protests of this size require a permit.
In most states, and specifically cities, there is an emergency order restricting gatherings to < 10-50.
Are cities issuing permits that run afoul of the emergency orders?
^Many of these cities have imposed curfews, so I don’t think they’re issuing permits.
@1NJParent The peaceful protests all seem to take place during the daylight hours. Wouldn’t that be prior to any curfew?
Contact tracing. That’s going to be difficult to do regarding the riots. What store were you looting? At what time? Were you near the car when it got firebombed? Did you pick up the brick I threw through that window? Did you scream at the people blocking your way? When were you marching? On which streets?
If it’s going to be a free for all then you might as well forget about containment strategies. Yes, this goes for large holiday parties also although they would probably be much easier to trace.
On a similar note, if we don’t see a major uptick then let’s go ahead and open up sporting venues, outside venues for concerts and arts, and many other activities. Woohoo, let’s take advantage of this experiment.
Good news in my state of Tennessee: "Tennessee has a lower death rate than many other states, possibly due to an aggressive testing strategy, the relatively younger age group of our infected population, a prepared health care system, or a combination of all of these,” McPheeters said. “Whether the rate remains low is yet to be seen. This is not the time to relax our vigilance.”
Nationwide, the coronavirus has infected about 1.7 million Americans and killed more than 100,000, which means the outbreak has a U.S. fatality rate of about 6%, according to data published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as of Thursday afternoon. In Tennessee, the virus has infected 21,679 and killed 356, so the statewide outbreak has a fatality rate of only 1.6%, according to state health data.
In other states with outbreaks of a comparable size — North Carolina, Minnesota and Washington — the fatality rate is more than double. In Kentucky, where Gov. Andy Beshear has criticized Tennessee’s handling of the virus, the fatality rate is 4.4%."
@austinmshauri, @shuttlebus I am not having this issue. It takes me to my first unread post every time. Could this be a problem with your browser?
IL Dept. of Public Health announces that all community based testing centers will be closed for today.
The testing center near us was manned by the National Guard.
Thanks for sharing the current poll. I hadn’t seen that one yet and it’s interesting to see how most people feel (vs what is happening).
I’ll admit it also gives me a mental boost to see that I’m within the majority vs what I see covered in the news.
It also shows cc is pretty “common” with the varying views I’ve seen expressed from different posters.
Hadn’t thought of that twist. If it continues, the numbers will go down. No tests, no numbers. Perhaps we can’t rely on this “experiment” after all - esp in hot spots.
Almost seems one can’t win with figuring out this virus.
I would love suggestions for dealing with the stress of the current circumstances (COVID-19 plus everything else). Thanks.
The same thing happens to me on the Plagurism thread.
We have an advantage of having four here who enjoy each other’s company. We play games. When one is really involved in a game, it’s tough to have their mind on other things.
Perhaps helpful to all, some of our games have been online with extended family. Code Names works nicely using horsepaste (add dot com). Weird name, but it works wonderfully. You can have multiple people playing from various computers or phones - just have to be able to trust all not to cheat.
A good therapist is worth his/her weight in gold.
You can learn concrete coping skills.
Hang in there! Report back!
I get it’s the June thread but what is stated as the topic and what is getting discussed are 2 different things.
Well, the original post nor the initial title did not specify that at all. 