<p>Yes, he would because he knows and truly believes that no matter how disappointed and mad I might be I will still always be on his side.</p>
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<p>The news would come out eventually. How would the son be at school without any money?</p>
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<p>I never hung out with the crowd that went to bars. I don’t like them and find them very boring. I have many friends (many older than me). We hang out at sporting events, concerts, etc.</p>
<p>I am socially uninformed? Wow.</p>
<p>That explains it. As long as you are happy then that’s what matters.</p>
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<p>Exactly and I didn’t have to break the law to have fun.</p>
<p>This thread is much easier to read if you put insomniatic on your block/ignore list, FYI.</p>
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<p>Any why is that? What haven’t I said or other people have said that isn’t true? The problem is sometimes people don’t like hearing the truth.</p>
<p>So let me get this straight insomniatic- you have never broken any law - you never watched a movie or content on Youtube that was posted illegally, you don’t drive above the speed limit, you’ve paid at least a dollar for every song on your ipod, you always dispose of your recyclables and never put any software or online content on your computer that you did not pay for?<br>
So if you are such a law abiding citizen why do you “have little respect for police officers” whose job it is to uphold these laws among many other things.</p>
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<p>Everything that is posted on YouTube is fair use. YouTube takes down videos that are not fair use.</p>
<p>Don’t have an iPod. I always support the artists and buy their CD’s.</p>
<p>I put my recyclables in the recycling bin.</p>
<p>Nope, never used any software or online contact that I didn’t pay for.</p>
<p>You really took that last comment from the vault. If you read through the whole thread, it was about a reporter that was doing his job and was arrested by a police officer for parking his car on the side of the road of an accident. The reporter had the right to report on the scene and he was arrested for doing so.</p>
<p>The young people I know who have gotten into trouble with the law for having fake IDs (which is a VERY small minority of those with fake IDs) had no trouble getting jobs or graduating from college. There were no issues with their colleges at all, in fact. It was a legal matter just like getting a speeding ticket (except it was a more serious charge).</p>
<p>I am not advocating fake IDs. I am simply doing what I tend to do on this forum and pointing out the reality. The reality, despite some posters whose kids are NOT in social groups who like to go to clubs where you need to be 21, is that many, many college kids have fake IDs. They are EXTREMELY easy to obtain and are pretty good replicas. There are places (like State College, PA) where the bar bouncers DO use a screening light or other tools and CAN detect the fakes. Most other places want the business and let the kids in with a mere glance at the ID. Some of the kids will abuse alcohol and some will drink responsibly. Same with someone who is 21 or 22.</p>
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<p>Again, not the point. It doesn’t matter that there are many, many college kids (which I don’t agree with) that have fake ID’s. It is illegal if 1 person does it or 1,000 people do it.</p>
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<p>This has got to be the most naive post I’ve ever read here. I could fill a novel of things I did in college that were much worse than those posted here, that my parents never found out about. Before I met H in college, he was arrested for DUI; his parents never found out. He managed to find money somehow to pay a lawyer to represent him. I’m certainly not proud that he had that on his record (after a certain amount of time, it was erased from his record), but college kids do things all the time that their parents don’t know about and will never find out about.</p>
<p>Insomniac, parents have no way of ever guaranteeing that their kids will never make mistakes. Frankly, I’m not interested in micro-managing my kids while they’re 700+ miles away at school. They must suffer the consequences of their mistakes; that’s one way we grow as humans.</p>
<p>And I know you’ll find this horribly abysmal, but a couple of weeks ago, we were in Green Bay for a Packers game and drove by a store-front sign that said, “Bad decisions make good stories.” Gotta love it, and it’s so true. We don’t start out our lives with the purpose of making bad decisions, but they just happen. I haven’t met a person yet who has not broken a law at sometime in their lives. And anyone who claims not to have done so is lying through their teeth. People in glass houses… you know the saying.</p>
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<p>I wonder how he got the money?</p>
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<p>The point here is not about making mistakes, it is about parents saying there is nothing wrong with their children using fake ID’s or other people’s ID’s in order to obtain alcohol illegally.</p>
<p>Well, he did have summer jobs that paid well, working the pipelines in East Texas. He may have had to cut back on his ‘discretionary’ expenses for a while. I didn’t know him then, and I didn’t ask. </p>
<p>I, too had a rather large expense in college that my parents never knew about (had nothing to do with DUI or breaking the law). I borrowed from friends and paid them back over time as I was able… paid back every single penny.</p>
<p>Maybe he had a summer job that paid really well? Or a part time job while in school? Your problem is you are very single threaded.</p>
<p>Cross posted with teriwtt.:)</p>
<p>There’s lots of things I hope my kids never do, but I have no way of knowing whether or not they do them. Some things I find out about afterwards (some of D1’s stories are slowly coming out now that she’s two years out of college). What am I supposed to do? She obviously knows how I feel about certain activities, or I would have heard about them at the time. </p>
<p>I guess next time I talk to her I’ll work out a payment schedule for her college expenses since she was obviously such a bad kid that she ramrodded us with an altered personality.</p>
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<p>Huh? Who said that?</p>
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<p>Again, you are missing the whole point of this whole thread.</p>
<p>Again, this is about parents saying there is nothing wrong with their children using fake or other people’s ID’s in order to obtain alcohol illegally.</p>
<p>Both of my in-laws were alcoholics and died in their 60s due to self-sabotage of their bodies. H and I are very aware of the increased risks this puts our daughters in for developing alcohol problems. As much as I’d love to tell them, don’t ever drink, it’s unrealistic. Yes, there are kids in college who do not drink… believe it or not, some of those kids were burnouts in high school and realized they do not want to spend the rest of their lives doing that, so they abstain in college. But I suspected my kids were going to test the limits in many areas, and drinking underage was one of them. They knew if they got in trouble for it, it would be up to them to figure their way out because we wouldn’t bail them out. That’s the upside of having a parent who got a DUI and managed to take care of it himself without telling his parents… we know by example that it’s possible for a kid to remain in college and take care of their own legal problems without their parents bailing them out.</p>