Feds uncover admissions test cheating plot

About 84.5% of colleges have need-blind admissions.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/2122733-most-colleges-have-need-blind-admissions.html

However, most of them do not have good financial aid, so many students get “financial rejections” from them.

But Juniata specifically is need-aware, according to https://www.collegedata.com/en/college-profile/441/?tab=profile-admission-tab . Also, Juniata’s NPC suggests a net price of about $15-16k for a poor family student with grades and test scores in the highest categories that can be selected.

I cannot catch up reading this thread but I wonder if French horn players ever get in the side door with a ‘donation.’

@mdphd92 Here is another upstanding citizen! Just read it in the WSJ:

:https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-yale-dad-who-set-off-the-college-admissions-scandal-11552588402?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1

D got the email from Juniata. It states “When you apply to Juniata, we admit you, not your parents’ wallet.” Thats a very glib statement from a need aware school.

very funny! :slight_smile:

Odd choice – Viterbi is USC’s engineering division, but Barnard does not offer engineering majors on its own (does have 3+2 with Columbia, but admission to that is competitive). Was an engineering major her first choice of major?

So Phil Mickelson the golfer used the service but states he never paid to get his daughter to Brown… we wait and see if he is write

Phil Mickelson!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6810697/Phil-Mickelson-reveals-used-college-counselor-tied-bribe-scandal.html

@sekere62 Many kids from my kids’ OC high school attend USC. All very bright, hardworking, and talented young people. With that being said, parents from our high school utilize the services of college counselors. This is the first time I’ve heard of Singer but I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t at least one kid from our school that used him (either legitimately or illegitimately). I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough.

“The suit also includes in its class ALL students who between 2012 and 2018 were rejected from at least one of the eight universities in question after paying application fees.”

Oh for God’s sake!
an application does NOT guarantee admittance!! =))
For that reason alone, the suit will be thrown out.

How could these “precious snow flakes” and their parents be so stupid or greedy??

https://www.stanforddaily.com/2019/03/14/seven-plaintiffs-named-in-amended-complaint-to-college-cheating-scandal/

@MaterS I heard bassoon is a better route. Not kidding.

Most schools have an alumni group for each sport…even, or especially, the non-revenue ones. The sport I’m familiar with announces each “recruiting class” in an emailed newsletter to the boosters/supporters. There is a resume of each athlete outlining the accomplishments, titles, championships, etc.

If an athletic director or admissions officer were to look at the coach’s communications with his booster group, they should easily be able to find if the coach omitted someone who had been on the coach’s “recruit admit” list. With the exception of a case where a foreign athlete was recruited, the booster group would quite quickly ferret out any mystery recruits. My guess is that such a communication either wasn’t made to the group (unlikely) or that they simply left off the name of the incompetent recruit (more likely).

I guess the coaches involved must have been pretty confident that they wouldn’t be found out. You’d think that admissions would be rather keen to follow up on how the kids were doing athletically. If you admit someone for that reason, you don’t want to see them not show up for the sport.

“They are also signing off on the app that it is the truth.”
what makes you think that it was the students that submitted the application?

Singer apparently had thousands of clients and many of them were legitimate. I wonder how he decided who to reveal the shady side of the business to. He had to gamble that they were interested and wouldn’t reveal the scheme if they chose not to participate. Amazing that he could predict so well for over 20 years.

how about @sportingclaymom @MaterS Double contrabass flute (google)? Going through side doors will be very difficult! :wink:

@gallentjill , sales talk, of course, but I appreciated the humor.

Singer probably went by students’ stats. Kids with low test scores and parents with high aspirations were probably his target group.

DD applied liberal arts to most schools (she loved Euro history) but tossed in some CS applications. Her 13 Aps were a mix of liberal arts and stem. So unsure which application was strongest, she sent out two versions. USC Viterbi CS and Barnard were her top choices where she got in.

Entirely possible. His D was Val and conducted research in Egyptology in HS, while also being a two-sport athlete (captain of both). Private HS with a mean SAT of 1330.

"“I wonder how he decided who to reveal the shady side of the business to”

  • its easy to find out who has the “money, money, money MONEY”!

I’m in! I’m a snowflake, stupid and greedy. :-c