<p>Which of the public flagships meet over 70% needed aid (in addition to pell grant and state grants)?</p>
<p>University of Virginia and University of North Carolina/Chapel Hill. So far as I know those are the only public universities that GUARANTEE to meet the need of accepted students. Both schools include loans in their financial aid packages. </p>
<p>Just an FYI…when schools meet full need, they INCLUDE the Pell and any state grants in the numbers they award if the student is eligible to receive them.</p>
<p>It’s tough to know which schools give full fin aid without the federal and state funds. The no loan schools do. But the problem is that your 70% figure is an average. There may be no one getting 70% of need met at a particular school, but the aid figures average out to 70%. </p>
<p>Look at the average need met % in the front of US News & World Report Ultimate College guide. Mark the state schools. You’ll find that few average 70% or more, and there is no telling if they include the federal funds or not; but as a matter of procedure most schools, overwhelmingly most schools, start with the PELL and other federal monies in building a financial aid package.</p>
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<p>They also include loans, and I suspect that some of them even included Parent PLUS Loans and private loans.</p>
<p>Ok do any schools give more money then then pell grant? which are public flagships?
(which are not loans or work study).
My efc is 0 btw.</p>
<p>Your instate flagstaff campus, perhaps. (State schools are more likely to meet in state students’ need.)</p>
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<p>UVA and UNC-CH both meet the full need of accepted students. MOST students receiving large need based awards DO receive work study (why would you view that as a problem?). </p>
<p>Many public universities have grants for low income students that are awarded to instate students at their schools.</p>
<p>I would suggest you check YOUR instate public universities to find out about need based financial aid for low income students. </p>
<p>Beyond that, there is NO WAY we can tell you what YOUR award will be at any instate public university. With the exception of UVA and UNC-CH, public universities do NOT guarantee to meet full need. Their institutional funding is limited and they do not have the deep pockets to guarantee to meet need for all students they accept…and they don’t.</p>
<p>But many states do have programs to help low income students…check in YOUR state.</p>
<p>Im looking for outstate flagships… New york schools to me are not as good as schools in the mid west or florida area.
No problem with work study but its expected from almost all universities anyway.</p>
<p>The ONLY public universities in this country that guarantee to meet the need of accepted students would be University of Virginia and University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. At all other public universities, the likelihood of an out of state student having significant need based aid is not very high. Public universities reserve their limited (for most their institutional funds are limited) need based funds for students who are residents of THEIR state…not out of state students.</p>
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<p>I’m not sure where you got this bias from. The SUNY system has some wonderful schools which many OOS students clamor to attend…Bing and Stonington for two. Buffalo, Purchase, New Paltz, Cortland. There are so many choices it’s hard to believe one couldn’t find a school IN New York State to suit you. AND financially they can be a terrific bargain for a low income student. With the Pell, TAP, SEOG and stafford loans, you could be very close to paying the bills at one of the SUNY schools.</p>
<p>I’m sorry you don’t think they are as good as the schools in the midwest or in Florida, but the reality is you will not garner significant need based aid from ANY flagship state university in Florida or the midwest. They simply don’t offer significant need based institutional aid to out of state students AND the federally funded need based aid will NOT cover the costs of attending any of these schools as an out of state student.</p>
<p>Sure those schools are ok but they are not as good as “ohio state” or other well known schools.
Im also only looking for schools larger then 20k undergrads which only leaves one safety in new york.
There has to be a way for a 4.0 transfer to get some money.transfers really get screwed over.</p>
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<p>The sad fact of the matter is that other than UVa and UNC-Chapel Hill, OOS public flagships don’t promise to meet full financial need for OOS students. While UVa promises to meet full need to low income students with little or no loans, all other OOS public flagships will include the full Pell grant and the full amount of Stafford loans into any OOS student’s FA package. Some will also be generous enough to put some federal work study money into the package. A few may also put in a subsidized Perkins loan into the package. And that’s likely to be the full need-based FA package for an OOS student. And your *gap = COA - Pell - Staffords - work study - Perkins * is likely to be very, very large because of the additional tuition required of OOS students.</p>
<p>Even if the OOS flagship gives you a grant, it’s likely to be very small relative to your need: Why should a public flagship U give an OOS student tons of institutional money instead spending that same sum of money on meeting (most of) the need of multiple in-state students?</p>
<p>Also be aware that if you go out of NYS, you will not be eligible for the NYS TAP award, which is grant money—i.e. you don’t have to pay it back.</p>
<p>UVA is #2 in the country on the financial aid list!</p>
<p>I am thinking about changing states but that would mean 1 year off college which is bad…
Im 22 now so i can only change states when im 24 right?</p>
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<p>If you are a transfer student, your odds of getting any need based aid at a public university outside of the Pell and Stafford loans…is very very LOW. Even as an instate resident, your likelihood of getting anything but the federally funded aid is VERY VERY LOW. </p>
<p>Yes…you will be an independent student for financial aid purposes the year you turn 24. HOWEVER, you must reside in your “new state” for a full year prior to becoming eligible for instate tuition in that new state…so keep that in mind too…you’ll be 25 before you meet that requirement.</p>
<p>Where are you going to college now? If you are a transfer, why not finish where you are and then look to other schools for grad school.</p>
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<p>Much of the “fame” of the OOS public flagships you’re thinking about is based on nothing more than fielding a good football or basketball team in a well known power conference, which none of the SUNYs belong to.</p>
<p>As thumper1 points out, academically, the best of the SUNYs are quite respectable and going to one of them for undergrad instead of OSU is not a problem.</p>
<p>If your stats are really, really strong, then you could look at trying to get a full-ride merit scholarship at places like Alabama or Ole Miss. There are threads about full-ride merit scholarships on CC. Two of the most commonly recommended are:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/848226-important-links-automatic-guaranteed-merit-scholarships.html?highlight=AUTOMATIC[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/848226-important-links-automatic-guaranteed-merit-scholarships.html?highlight=AUTOMATIC</a></p>
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<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/148852-what-ive-learned-about-full-ride-scholarships.html?highlight=full[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/148852-what-ive-learned-about-full-ride-scholarships.html?highlight=full</a></p>
<p>somebeast…are you a transfer student? If so, the links provided above will be of little use to you. They are for incoming freshmen.</p>
<p>true i am a transfer student.</p>
<p>Somebeast…from reading your other posts, it “seems” that you are currently at a community college in NY State somewhere. Your best bet is to find a four year school with an articulation agreement with your community college. By doing this, the four year school would both accept you AND your community college courses would transfer to the four year school. Community colleges typically have articulation agreements with IN STATE universities. You should ask at your community college where these articulation agreements are with your current school. Perhaps some of them do offer financial aid to transfer students. </p>
<p>How much time have you spent in Madison WI, Bloomington IN, Ann Arbor MI, Columbus OH, Champaign IL? How do you KNOW these places are for you? </p>
<p>It’s nice to have a dream of going to another place, but you do need to think about the finances unless your parents are willing to pay the out of state bill. Those flagship midwestern universities will all be there for grad school…do well in undergrad in state and hope for grad school funding from one of the Big Ten schools.</p>
<p>My parents may pay up to 25 k a year (loans or help from family).
which is why currently my only options out of state are lsu and ole miss and ohio state(transfer scholarship )
and private schools.
I really don’t want to go to a new york school i might even establish domicile in a different state (complicated i know) But id prefer not to.
I also might get about 2000$ a year from the phi theta kappa .
im mostly looking at student reviews and most new york schools hardly get more then a 7.</p>
<p>UW-Madison has a program that meets full COA for very low-income students. That’s what I’m on. I don’t know if OOS students can get that program though.</p>