Game of Thrones, season 7

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I agree with this part, but I don’t see Cersei/Jamie getting involved with the Sam subplot. BTW, Sam is the stand-in for GRRM, so I think he needs to survive to write the history that the 7 books (someday…?) will be. Sam will discover something about dragonglass, like how to make more. He may discover Jon’s parentage also. (Unfortunately, Gilly is not critical to the future plot…)

And, yes, I agree that Jamie will kill Cersei (just before Arya gets to her). Cersei thinks the younger brother in the prophecy is Tyrion, but will be surprised that it is Jamie–who will be a kingslayer and a kinslayer. Brienne will later kill Jamie in battle.

The 3 Targaryens–Dany, Jon, and Tyrion–will ride the 3 dragons in Season 8 to defeat the Night King. If we are lucky, there will be an ice dragon to even out the fire/ice power, but Fire will win.

I like the Sansa and Tyrion getting back together, but I’m hoping Littlefinger dies this season.

Once Bran goes through the Wall to get to Jon, the magic is defeated and the White Walkers will get south of the Wall this season. Depending on the special effects budget, the Wall may even come tumbling down.

Lots of bloody battles this season between ships/Ironborn, dragons, Dothraki, Lannisters, etc. Lots of people we like will die.

Who will win Cleganebowl? I hope the Hound, of course.

If Arya is Lady of Winterfell, who will she marry to produce an heir? Gendry–uniting house Stark and house Baratheon?

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Are we conveniently forgetting who pushed Bran off the wall?

I’d love an ending where Tyrion is in charge, but I don’t really see it happening.

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Lots of attractive scenarios. :smiley:

Who do I want good things to happen to: Jon, Dany, Tyrion, Davos, Jaime, Lady Mormont, Bran and Meera, the Hound, Brienne, the Queen of Thorns, Missandei, Grey Worm, Arya, Yara, Dario, Sam and Gilly, and even Theon.

But when the author killed Ned Stark, we knew that no one was safe.

Gendry is too dumb for Arya. :slight_smile:

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“I’d love an ending where Tyrion is in charge, but I don’t really see it happening.”

As Hand of the Queen, Tyrion is doing a fine job of being in charge already–I don’t see him asking Danny’s permission if he can make deals with anybody.

Dragon glass will be manufactured in the desert (all that good sand) by Danny’s dragon’s fire power. Plenty to kill the white walkers in a super epic battle with lots of CG.

After further thought I think Jon’s coming back to life is another blip of the future messing with the past. Perhaps Bran already saved him once but we don’t know how yet.

I don’t think Little Finger will be killed–he’ll just go back to running a brothel.

With Arya’s big dire wolf and her proclivity towards kill first, ask questions later, I don’t see her as the marrying type.

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Most of what I posted above is pure speculation, some of it made up at the moment I posted it. But I think that two largely forgotten things must prove to be significant: Sansa’s marriage to Tyrion and Dany’s inability to bear more children.

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About Dany’s ability to bear children - wasn’t there something in MirriMaz’s prophecy about the sun rising in the west or something like that? Who knows what weird things might happen in an epic battle with White Walkers and magic makers like Bran. Maybe the prophecy will come true.

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Does anyone know if the plan is to release it for streaming on HBOGo/HBONow at 9pm Eastern so that it is available at 6pm on the West Coast?

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I remember last year and how it basically crashed at 9 PM if you tried to watch online.

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Do people think we should us spoiler codes or just figure that everything from here on will contain spoilers if you haven’t yet watched this week’s episode?

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I think once the show has aired that we should be able to discuss freely Actually, I don’t know how to do spoilers here so will just leave a lot of blank space while waiting for others to chime in. I was very happy to discover that one of the group of HBO channels here in San Diego aired the new episode at 6:00 - I was thinking I had to wait until 9:00 on the main channel but yay!

OK, going to refer to tonight’s episode…

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I thought it started strong and ended strong, but some of the middle seemed to drag a bit considering how few episodes are left. Jon better learn how to take council, not just support, from women. I don’t believe Sansa wants to rule, and I definitely don’t think she ever wants to see Littlefinger in charge of anything. But she does want to be respected because she really has learned a lot about some key players.

That was Ser Jorah in the infirmary in OldTown, right?

I wasn’t real clear who Arya ran into in her travels after dealing with the Freys - were they Lannister men? I thought maybe so because they were wearing red cloaks. But I wasn’t clear where they came from or where they were going, although they did seem like a decent group for a change. Loved Arya’s laugh at the end.

Not that interested in either Euron Greyjoy or Sandor Clegane; looks like on of them is developing a conscience. That whole vision in the flames seemed to come out of nowhere.

Thank goodness poor Meera can finally stop dragging that sled!

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Why, it was Ed Sheeran, of course! :))

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OK, I didn’t know who he was before reading comments on this episode. Apparently they included him as a surprise for Maisie, who is a fan.

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I think it was Ser Jorah in the Citadel. Dany had sent him off to find a cure for gray scale so he must have sought out the Maesters.

I can understand Sansa’s POV - she is motivated by practicality and a fear of losing yet more noble minded loved ones, but she has clearly spent too much time around Cersie and Littlefinger.

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Arya’s getting scary.

Sansa, not so much, in my opinion. We can admire Tyrion even while acknowledging that he’s devious and flawed. I think we can learn to do the same with Sansa. And Jon really needs someone like her.

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The jury is still out on Arya. She took out the Freys, but only the adult men. What will she do with those Lannister soldiers she’s come across? They have all told her some very human stories and we’ll just have to wait and see. I’m betting that she lets them go. But maybe steals their arms.

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I enjoyed the episode - watched it with my S who is a major fan, but agree some of it seemed like a waste of time given the short season (Sam emptying chamber pots and shelving books and gagging repeated over and over 5x? was that a glitch in our HBO Go or did they really do that?)

Loved Arya killing the male Freys. Big start to the season.

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Arya and Jon share the same sense of justice they got from Ned Stark. They will not punish the innocent because they are related to the guilty. On the other hand, let us hope that Arya’s words about the folly of not eradicating the Starks don’t turn out to be prophetic in regards to the Freys. I think that the encounter between Arya and the detachment from the Lannister army served to humanize them in her eyes, and ours. What will she do? Will she kill them all? Will she let them live?

Arya and the Hound are both evolving. I love the Hound, I’m glad he survived. He no doubt has some crucial role to play…perhaps in killing his brother. Jaime has also changed. His act of pushing Bran from the tower was terrible, but in that moment he had to choose between Bran’s life and that of himself, his sister, and perhaps most importantly his three children: “The things we do for love.”

I think that Jon is the son who has risen in the West. I had forgotten that Sansa is still technically married to Tyrion. That does change things.

So Sam has already discovered an enormous source of dragonglass.

My S and I were discussing this yesterday, and he pointed out that GRRM’s view is that of an endlessly turning wheel, so that whoever is up will eventually be down, and there is no permanent happy ever after for Westeros. But, he said, he doesn’t think that the showrunners fully share that view, or at least not enough to provide an ending that would be harsh enough to comport with it.

From the very beginning I thought that Little Finger was the most likely winner of the game. But I don’t know…

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I think Littlefinger is toast. Maybe dragon toast, lol.

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I think Little Finger will turn around and fully support Sansa in getting Jon to listen to her counsel. He makes himself invaluable as a political analyst. If something happens to him I think it will be from that weird kid at the Eyrie.

Is Jorah at an infirmary or jailed? Might be the same thing.

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It looked like Jorah was in some kind of asylum for grayscale, like an old school tuberculosis “clinic”. Maybe the maesters are working on a cure.