Game of Thrones, season 7

From the bear, I saw the ending coming. Maybe always saw it, actually, but the bear thing just teed it up.

It was fun to see the dragons taking out the wights, but damn.

Between Jon being a Targaryen and Bran being able to warg (not to mention see and maybe change the past and future), the war between dragons should be very interesting. I assume that will be next season, sigh…next week is the last of this one I think :frowning:

I wanted to know why Daneris didn’t just use the dragons to light up the Night King. She’s smart enough to know to go after the generals not just the privates.

@Sue22 Because then the show would end after Season 7 rather than 8, and she hasn’t even had incestuous sex with Jon Snow yet.

@sue22 RIGHT?? But yeah, @marian - that would be too easy. I’m glad she didn’t, we get another season this way.

Is it incest if she’s his aunt?

@mathmom - “avunculate marriage” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avunculate_marriage

“Avunculate marriages were once frequent among the royal houses of Europe” - of course all bets are off in Westeros :smiley:

In some U.S. states, you can’t even marry your first cousin, and that’s not as close a relationship as aunt and nephew.

I thought the most interesting part of the episode was Tyrion talking about democracy with Danaerys.

All the “red shirts” and the miraculous appearance of miles of heavy steel chain was quite a bit of shark jumping.

Also, the continued military ineptitude is getting to me. You have all these red shirts but no scouts? None of your northern ponies to ride? No setting a watch and sleeping in shifts?

You depend on the water being liquid but no one chops a perimeter or fires up a sword to melt the ice? Smh…

The time thing really bothered me. You’ve established a universe where it takes forever to get anywhere. Where the journey matters - Jaime kind of redeems himself with Brienne, Arya grows up, and then suddenly people (and ravens) cross continents in the space of an episode. Putting the whole series on fast forward because you are tired of making it seems counterproductive to me.

It bothers me too, but I am not sure there is a real solution. We hope that GRRM has an ending in mind and the directors are working feverishly towards it in the limited number of episodes that they have.

Perhaps things would be somewhat better if they had 10 episodes for both seasons 7 and 8. But adding more seasons really isn’t an option. Actors want to move on, and because there is a unified story in mind (we hope), you can’t just kill actors that want to move or demand too much money.

Loved the Arya/ Sansa scene. They have both suffered in different ways and neither could have born the others’ burdens. Arya was so unpredictable and full of menace.

Considering the fact(oid) that the wights can’t or won’t cross water (which is how Jon and several companions survived on that little island in the middle of the semi-frozen lake), I have to wonder how they got the chain under/attached to the submerged dead dragon.

Related Q @marian - wights aren’t supposed to be able to cross the wall either yet they brought that one back…

What if they flew around the wall?

@hebegebe - so many theories. Some say Bran already broke the wall’s magic in that regard. Or the Horn of Winter will break it (Sam has that I think).

I’m betting the NIght King flies right over or around it on Viserion, though.

If they’re at Eastwatch, they could have boated around the wall, but I think they took the wight over on the dragon.

Just a few plot holes!

What will the new wight/dragon breathe? Ice or fire?

I’m going with ice. Can Bran warg into it? Presumably yes, though the Night King can do stuff to Bran now too…

If the ice dragon still breathes fire, maybe he could just blow a hole in the wall. I don’t think he could bring down the whole thing, but he might be able to create a corridor.