Game of Thrones

<p>I have not read the books so was shocked by the last episode. I knew something was up but had no idea. I just shouted “No! No! No!” over and over again. I watch with friends and they were worried about me. </p>

<p>Ed Skrein - eww - I think he’s creepy looking. I don’t find him attractive at all. I’d choose Iain Glen or Jacob Anderson (Grey Worm) over him in a skinny minute.</p>

<p>Woman who doesn’t have any taste in men <a href=“cartera45”>size=1</a>[/size] says what?!</p>

<p>Grey Worm? Grey Worm of all the guys in Game of Thrones. Grey Worm?</p>

<p>He’s adorable. The Fabio looking guy has a terrible overbite and bad teeth. Can’t get past that. I googled him and he looks better bald.</p>

<p>Whoever played Jaquen H’gar was my Gray Worm.</p>

<p>Yes! Although, he was odd at times I didn’t mind seeing him on the screen. :)</p>

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<p>OK, confess: Who’s watching GoT just for the selection of bare bottoms? :)</p>

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<p>I don’t understand why Theon is being tortured and who is torturing him. Can someone explain?</p>

<p>Also, why do those zombie type guys want to eat babies? I don’t get it?</p>

<p>They don’t explain the torture at first in the book, either… in fact, you don’t even know it is Theon they are torturing for quite a while (at least I didn’t). There is a purpose… Theon has to behave horribly (which he has done) and be broken down completely for later plot purposes.</p>

<p>Those are the White Walkers…</p>

<p>Theon is being tortured by Reek, the ■■■■■■■ son of Roose Bolton. The Bolton’s have a history of flaying people (skinning them) and their flag has a flayed man as it’s symbol. Reek is a nasty piece of work and can’t be controlled, even by his father. I don’t remember that he had a particular reason for torturing Theon. He could say that they’re allied to the Starks and that is why, but Roose went against the Starks himself. </p>

<p>I don’t understand why the white walkers want babies as a sacrifice either, it makes no sense.</p>

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<p>Sort of true… Ramsey pretends to be Reek, but is not actually (the original Reek died, Ramsey pretended to be him to save himself). Then he turns Theon into his own “Reek” by torturing him. There is a point…eventually Theon has the opportunity to find a bit of humanity in himself to do something really heroic. Won’t tell you if he does it or not, though. Just that he has an opportunity. Don’t want to spoil things for those who haven’t read Dances with Dragons yet. :slight_smile: Since you can’t count on anyone doing “the right thing” in this series, you will just have to watch.</p>

<p>You already did ruin it. :(</p>

<p>Sorry, razorsharp asked “why is he being tortured and who is torturing him”… then was given a somewhat inaccurate explanation.</p>

<p>I’m not sure if the White Walkers eat the babies. A White Walker just whisks the baby boy away but we don’t know what he does with the baby. Maybe, newborn baby boys are considered delicacy by the WWs or they could also be sacrificed to gain favor from the White Walkers’ god. </p>

<p>Just to be clear the WWs are not zombies. The zombies are Wights, which are dead humans or animals reanimated by the WWs. That is why the wildlings burn their dead. I think WWs can be killed by obsidian or dragon glass only and the Wights/zombies are killed by fire. Both have startling ice blue eyes. I don’t know why Tarly left the obsidian dagger on the ground after he killed a WW. </p>

<p>It’s quite interesting though that Thoros has the ability to resurrect Beric, the leader of The Brotherhood, by praying to the Lord of Light. However, as you can see, Beric is not a zombie. Maybe, Thoros has an upgraded or better version of White Walker magic that allows him to resurrect a dead person as opposed to turning a corpse into a mere walking dead. Thoros’ resurrecting powers cannot control Beric though whereas the WWs can control the zombies which brings me to wargs like Bran who can control a live animal or person.</p>

<p>I replayed last Sunday’s episode (On Demand). I’m sorry for Kat but it seems that releasing J. Lannister, was the turning point in the war, forcing Rob to go hat in hand back to Lord Tully. BTW has Martin finished the series?</p>

<p>Martin has not finished the series and due to his poor health, there’s a general opinion that he may never do so. We don’t have HBO so I’ve only seen the first two seasons on “Comcast being nice” week, but I did read all five books. They started great and went downhill, so I’m happy to see in the threads that the TV series is apparently holding strong.</p>

<p>I just found this George R.R. Martin quote re more books:

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<p>Krlilies - I asked my husband about the dagger because I was confused about this too. Apparently in the book (under somewhat different circumstances) he breaks the dagger when he stabs the white walker. </p>

<p>I know more or less the whole plot of the books because my husband was so desperate to talk about them as he was reading that I let him summarize the whole series for me. I don’t read much anymore so it wasn’t likely that I was going to tackle a couple thousand pages of book anytime soon anyway. </p>

<p>I’m looking forward to watching the most recent episode with my mom and brother. My mom has read the books but my brother hasn’t and he is going to FREAK OUT. (On a side note, it is a little awkward at times watching this show with family.)</p>

<p>I don’t watch it with it with my family, but if we get the chance to see each other during the week we just talk and talk and talk. :D</p>

<p>Marilyn - interesting quote. I hope he keeps to his own schedule, though he hasn’t in the past. I thought book 5 was much better than book 4. Since they are parallel it wouldn’t make sense for HBO to not combine them somehow - and fans wouldn’t put up with a season that lacked a major character too. </p>

<p>Interesting little twist at the end when Jaime gets to King’s Landing a bit faster than in the books. I wonder where they’ll bring that. Danaerys’ last scene I found a bit uncomfortable. Too much like the pretty blond lady saving the grateful hordes of darker skinned people. In a way it can’t be avoided - she’s in a hot, desert climate and she’s a white-haired Targaryen - but it’s awkward to behold.</p>

<p>spoiler alert

Thanks for the info hyperJulie. As it turns out, Sam had a bagful of obsidian daggers.</p>

<p>Bran’s Rat Cook story is interesting. The moral of the story: gods will never forgive someone who kills his own guests. Does this mean Walder Frey will turn into a white rat that eats its own young? Maybe, he’ll turn into a zombie and devour his children. Whatever happens, it’s pretty obvious we expect the House of Frey to be doomed.</p>

<p>I wonder if Joffrey and Ramsey are related? They both think alike. Serve an enemy’s body part as a “gift”.</p>