<p>@greenwitch, if you are talking about the event I think you are talking about, I <em>refuse</em> to accept that he is dead. :(( </p>
<p>^how do you define “dead”?</p>
<p>Finally, re-watched GoT Season 4, since I got all tangled up earlier and skipped some episodes. </p>
<p><em>SPOILERS</em>
My feels:
- Happy the pipsqueak, tyrant Joffrey died. At first I wasn’t satisfied by his “ending”, but after some thought, I came to terms that him reaching out to his mother, clinging on to the littlest bit of hope that she’d be able to pull his behind out of the mess he had come into, and realizing that his time has come to an end was satisfying. Oh, so satisfying.
- So happy Littlefinger pushed that jealous woman through the moon roof. When he was calming her, I was repeatedly saying, “Just kill her. Push her.” And he did.
- Sansa life still sucks. Poor girl. So much has happened to her and look where she still is.
- Brienne and Prodrick little trek through th woods was so adorable. Their interactions made me chuckles sometimes.
- I’ve been wanting something bad to happen to Cersei for awhile now. I don’t know what I wanted to happen to her, but with the death of her son, I figured it out. I want everyone she loves to die. I want her to see her evil playground slowly shrink while she realizes the game is over and she is the only one left. When that day comes, I will probably watch the scene over a couple times.
- In terms of the theory with Jamie and Cersei and Tyrion…It’s not as if Jamie’s character was a good one. He took his sister next to their dead son for goodness sake! He does have a redeeming quality or two. </p>
<p>^6. Jaime pushed Bran out the window. I can never forgive him for that.</p>
<p>Yes! Yes! Even more proof he’s never had much of a good character. We could start a list!</p>
<ol>
<li>Had an incestuous relationship with his sister resulting in two (from what I’m aware…) children who a set to rule.</li>
<li>Pushed poor, nice-eyebrowed Bran out the window leaving him never to walk again. </li>
<li>He didn’t get the nickname Kingslayer for nothing.</li>
<li>He took his sister next to his dead son. </li>
</ol>
<p>Anyone want to add?</p>
<p>" Sansa life still sucks. Poor girl. So much has happened to her and look where she still is."</p>
<p>I don’t know seems like she has “turned”. She looked sort of evil in that black dress.</p>
<p>^Unfortunately, Sansa’s only remaining role model is Littlefinger</p>
<p>^^Jaime’s comments to Brienne at the beginning of their relationship were vile.</p>
<p>Oh, by all means Sansa is far from innocent, but her life sucks. She’s reduced to stolen kisses from Littlefinger and dramatic lies in hopes of trying to get somewhere, anywhere but King’s Landing. I’m unsure if she’s just not as smart as her siblings, but I was (and still am) holding out for something more from her. </p>
<p>Sansa…</p>
<p>Not really spoiler alerts, but …</p>
<p>even in the books Sansa’s just a victim and a bit of a bore. She just doesn’t seem to be nearly as savvy as her siblings. It helps slightly if you can remember that in the books she starts out as 11 and only 13 when she marries Tyrion. The actress is 18 and looks it.</p>
<p>As for Jaime, he does seem to have a better side, but I’m not sure how you can get around the fact that he pushed Bran out the window, even if you can overlook incest.</p>
<p>Yeah, Jaime pushing Bran out of the window is the unforgivable thing. But I admit I like him anyway, because he is no longer the same person.</p>
<p>Someone, somewhere, pointed out that when he did it, he was facing the loss of literally everything and protecting the very existence of his sister and their children. Still…</p>
<p>Sansa in the books is a not-very-bright girly girl who betrays her father through sheer stupidity and desire to pander to Joffrey. (And don’t forget her failure to support Arya in the episode with Joffrey and the young boy.) She is more sympathetic in the tv show because her isolation, surrounded by enemies, is emphasized over her lackluster interior life as depicted in the books.</p>
<p>To me, Sansa seems like she is learning a lot from Littlefinger. She may end up being a, or THE, political force in the seven kingdoms.</p>
<p>I get that sense too. I have no problem Sansa growing up as a result of her experiences. I must say, I have a hard time imagining where this is all going. I always thought Arya would end up as an important player, but I have a hard time imagining what Martin has planned for her. (Speaking from having read the books, not yet watched to the end of current season.)</p>
<p>Assuming Jon Snow survives until the end (a big if), he is one of the very few character with the temperament to lead the seven kingdoms. Tyrion also seems to have that unique ability. </p>
<p>^I’m not sure what you mean. Plenty of people with terrible temperaments have led the seven kingdoms. One of the best and most recent examples was Joffrey. If Jon does eventually get that role, hopefully he’ll be more prepared for the political intrigues of King’s Landing than his father (??) was.</p>
<p>I think that leading the seven kingdoms WELL is the issue. 
Daenerys, Jon Snow, Tyrion: all good candidates. It remains to be seen how the other Targaryen will shape up. But Jon Snow would have to break his oath. At least.</p>
<p>What I would like to see: Jaime and Brienne of Tarth as lord and lady of Casterly Rock. Tyrion and Sansa divorced because his first wife, Tysha, is alive and reunited with him, and Tyrion as Master of Coin. Sansa with some nice boy as L&L of Riverrun. Jon Snow as Lord of the Wall. Rickon ruling a restored Winterfell. Grand Maester Sam Tarly. Arya and the Hound perhaps running a mercenary force. Davos Steerforth as the Hand or its equivalent for Stannis’s daughter, the lady of Dragonstone. Little Finger lord of the Vale. Daenerys on the Iron Throne, Ser Jorah Hand of the Queen, and Barristan the Bold head of the Queensguard. I guess that means Daenerys will have to marry her nephew.</p>
<p>^You’ve obviously put a lot of thought into your “dream” scenario. II’d be happy if most of it turned out to be true, but I’d prefer to see Littlefinger out of the picture when it comes to ruling any part of Westeros.</p>
<p>I just had a brainstorm: Sansa can marry Daenerys’ nephew, and they can be her heirs, because it will turn out that her only “children” are the dragons. (Flashback to Rhaegar and Ned Stark’s sister. We still don’t know exactly what happened to her, do we?)</p>
<p>I forgot to mention that Asha will be the head of the ironborn. I’m thinking that Daenerys should install Varys as her Governor of Meereen.</p>
<p>People who must die: the Boltons, many if not most of the Freys, Stannis and Melisandre, Cersei, probably Margery (thanks to her boundless ambition), most of the people on Arya’s list, various assorted villains. Myrcella and Tommen can live with their father/uncle, or become a septa/septon.</p>
<p>I just had another brainstorm: could Jon Snow actually be the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen? </p>
<p>SPOILER ALERT:</p>
<p>Consolation, that theory has been around on forum discussion boards for the books for a long, long, time. We’ll only know for sure, when we know for sure, or when we finally get to meet Howland Reed who is only survivor of that particular encounter in the past. Ned’s interior monologue in the first book tells me it’s true (“promise me ned”, she said from her bed of blood…), but who knows if the author sees it that way? Or, if he got tired of all the books’ fans seeing it that way and decided to change it? If it’s true, we end up with Jon and Daenerys ruling together after the Wall comes down. </p>
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<p>I read an article recently that said this is, in fact, a widely held assumption among a lot of fans…</p>