Did they announce the data?
Admitted students (Congrats!), would you mind sharing if your batter page shows faculty advisor now?
TeslaWhite ⊠why do you mention class rank is valuable?
For GT, I agree. DS23 accepted and there now as a Sophomore/Junior and was OOS valedictorian. I think that plays/played a part. BUT, I have no clue.
Do you have insights?
(re: DS25 is also class rank 1 and likely valedictorian provided no mishap⊠which is why I keep lobbying their high school to keep class rank for then even my DS29 b/c some schools still care about it).
To clarify your statement - It takes a good bit longer than 6 years to become a licensed architect.
A student can finish a B.Arch program in 5 years or a BA/MA program in 6-7 years. Those degrees then enable you to sit for the ARE tests and do practical hours towards licensure. From what I understand even someone who works VERY HARD towards licensure thatâs at least another 18-24 months and on a conservative timeline likely 3-5 years.
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For instate, my observation is top 15-20 ranks get admissions straight no questions asked. I donât think they see any other ECs as long as they have some. Many times ECs are not quantifiable. Many have similar ECs. I think Good ECs with clear recommendations, help. As the rank goes worser than 15 etc and for competitive majors like CS , may be ECs come into play ( but many of these ECs are not extraordinary) so class rank trumps . For OOS , few samples I know, Leadership skills trump. That may be because GT want to balance instate GPA students with OOS leadership. Even in instate kids with High leadership skills ( with nominal GPA) they get conditional.
â In my kids high school, they are removing class rank from this year. They feel students are altra competitive with given class ranks. This school has one of the highest class rigor in state (avg student selected to GT has 18 APs). Apparently, kids starting out with 4 Aps in 9th grade.
My son friends group â all good rankers got into CS, but one kid with better ECs and worser rank got differed.
Accepted in EA 1 for BSME
Small Private school in rural Georgia
Rank: 2/35
GPA: 4.0 UW / 4.62 W
AP: 6. School offers 8 (Rest of classes were honors)
SAT: 1490 (R&W 740/Math 750)
AP Scholar
Leadership positions
National-level speech and debater
Won state piano competition
Other State/National level ECs
Services Organizations
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no matter what AOs say, I firmly believe they will not take over a certain amount from the same school. a school where the top 30 students are uber competitive from a high stats perspective will be harder to get in than a student at a school where there is more variety in academic path taken in high school among the top 30 students. unfortunately I do believe its just harder to get in from larger schools. I looked up a lot of the big Atl metro public schools on the GT admission snapshot and they have an acceptance around 20% where smaller schools have an acceptance around 35-43%. I didnât see any high school with a higher acceptance rate than 43%. Even in my sonâs smaller school, I think like 6 kids applied EA and still a few got deferred. they want a diverse class. just makes a harder uphill battle for students to stand out among their peers coming from these uber competitive large high schools 
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Thank you frenchclasher. Was this posted on GTâs social media?
The class ranking was not an automatic admission for my D. She was deferred even though she ranks in the top 15 in a class of approximately 450.
However, we do expect at least a conditional transfer pathway offer unless the procedures have changed? She has a sibling who is a senior at GT.
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I respectfully have a slightly different take. I think the larger, higher-performing high schools have a larger population of students who both (1) are interested in a rigorous university like GT and (2) perceive themselves to be qualified for admission. As others have pointed out, there is a certain amount of self-selection that results in the exceptionally high stats of GTâs applicant pool. Smaller or lower-performing schools may have fewer students who apply, and the ones who do apply from those schools tend to be the ones at the very top of the class. This self-selection may affect those admission percentages.
I can understand certain challenges being in a very competitive school. However, there are challenges in a smaller or underperforming school as well. Those students may lack the resources (range of AP classes, quality of admission counseling, etc.) that are available at larger schools. They may also have to overcome the perception that the only reason they performed well in classes was that they went to a small or âeasyâ school.
Ultimately, itâs impossible to fully compare the resume of students from different schools. Or even students within the same school. Too many variables. Thatâs why competitive, holistic admissions will always be subjective to a large degree.
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So sounds like best not to go to a competitive high schoolâŠeasier to stand out and get into a good university 
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Lots of schools are moving away from ranking. If this is the most important factor in admission, then they better have enough data from previous years to infer a rank. They might for in-state schools, not so sure for oos/international schools.
I think it is more complicated than just looking at a certain school and percentage admits. I donât think it has much impact unless the kids all look the same. For instance if you have 10 kids with very similar stats and very similar activities. The school doesnât want to be too one note, they like variety. So if you have 10 kids from the same school that are all kinds of different majors and have different activities I think it would be much less of an issue. Also I would think itâs more like a type of school than an individual school, for instance high performing large public HSâs in the Atlanta metro as a whole are probably thrown together.
I will say that kids from those big high performing public schools are often the best prepared to succeed. They adapt socially better, they are used to competition, they are accustomed to having to fend for themselves, and they have had strong academic preparation even if they arenât at the top of their class. Kids from high rated private schools can sometimes struggle with the social aspect and suddenly they are just a number in a big school. Kids from small or underrated schools have an even bigger barrier as they often were able to be top students without having to study very hard and being treated as the smart kid and now they realize they are in a completely different ballgame, they also often have trouble adjusting to the social atmosphere of being around so many high performing and competitive students and often arenât well prepared for college life in general.
Itâs all individuals in the end though. You can have kids that are from all backgrounds succeed or fail, you can just identify some general trends but know there are many exceptions for good and bad.
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I think , as you reach 15 ish, it gets harder but do you know who got selected to same major with worse rank n better ECs from same school? Interesting thing is sometimes conditional is better than deferral. One may be potential candidate for deferral well as conditional. I think that is your case. Many with worse GPA got conditional with Good ECs In EA phase. That is because GT wanted to see their academic potential. Others with legacy got conditional , same reason. They want to see academic potential. Many who got differed never got admission even though their acads are much much better than those who got conditional in EA. The main reason is conditional pool is different than those who get in EA or RD. For conditional pool GT thinks they need to prove academic potential for GT rigor. Where as differed candidates n wait listed candidates have rigor but GT donât have seats. These candidates have higher chances of getting during transfer, if they maintain their grades in college. Just my observation, many may not agree.
From my sons school, 12 kids got admitted to CS, in EA, all top rankers. some have CS major ECs , some not so much. I doubt some have any major related ECs. During my elder son admission cycle, same several got into CS with zero major related ECs n not even AP CS. But all are top rankers. Just an observation so take it as grain of salt.
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Our S25 got in for CS. Heâs ranked 2/541 and an SAT of 1540 (800 Math), 15 APs, 5s in all STEM APs. He has a lot of STEM related ECs, mostly math, but some CS as well, many leadership roles and a cofounder of a service organization that has over 270 active members. One of his friend from his school got in for CS as well and that student is ranked 4/541 and very smart as well. He had good ECs but none of them were CS related, at least that we know of So, you have a point⊠if youâre in the top 10, your ECs (whether its related to your major) may not matter as muchâŠ
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I think that after affirmative action was banned, schools could only boost rural or impoverished students (or maybe look at gender). So, as a result, schools like GT have started accepting a much higher percentage of applicants from rural/impoverished high schools. For instance, my school, with a 35-person class size, had 3 students apply early, all of which got in. However, highly competitive, wealthy schools in urban areas tend to have a much lower acceptance rate, even though their least competitive applicants are just as or more competitive applicants than the ones at a rural/impoverished school.
The average student in a wealthy/competitive/urban school is a much more competitive applicant for a school like Georgia Tech. So, in light of this, GT looks at the context of a school. If below-average GT applicants go to a high school where they are very far above average, GT is probably more likely to accept them, rather than an average applicant who goes to a highly competitive HS. For instance, my schoolâs average SAT is 1080, but an applicant who got into GT has a 1410, which is below average for a GT applicant. This was confirmed to me by Mary Tipton Woolley (GT Admissions Director), who said that the admissions process is entirely context-based.
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I think you are right. So affirmative action on a racial basis was banned but affirmative action on the basis of socioeconomic status lives on. Makes sense.
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Most transcripts are sent with a school profile that contains usually a GPA range attached to each decile. They change every year and are specific to the senior class. So even without other students, itâs pretty apparent roughly where you stand. Dean J from UVA talks about this a lot, gives examples and explains why school profiles are so meaningful in their review. I think this is pretty consistent for most schools.
They also do not review applications in a vacuum. The admissions counselor will look at all of the applications from the same school, so it is obvious which ones are the strongest.
The poster above that mentioned that class rank is critical at her high school for GT admission is seeing the same thing that we have seen at our high school and other in-state schools of which I am familiar. The kids that get in from our high school are in the top 15% of their class. The handful I know of that were not were female and they were just outside this number. While our school does not rank top candidates graduate with honors.
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Thatâs only your opinion. Your entitled to it. My opinion, based on my experience, is the complete opposite. We can agree to disagree.