Group Think? Are we offering solid advice? Are we being influenced too much by rankings?

Question

How many B’s/B+ (for final grades) can a student get and still be 3.65+?

It depends on the base number of courses and whether the remaining grades are “A” or “A-“. My S22 had about a 3.68 at the end of junior year. He had 3 “B” final grades at that time with a mix of A/A- otherwise.

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If I wasn’t clear the 60% acceptance rate is for kids from our HS. I realize that it is/was lower than that generally speaking. The point of my comment was to illustrate that acceptance rates may vary across schools and that should be taken into account when evaluating a student’s chances.

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50% (10 out of 20 in my example) if they are all B+, with all As (no A- or A+.)

Result

GPA: 3.65

Total Credits: 20

Course Credit Grade Grade Points
Math 4 A 4×4 = 16
English 4 B+ 4×3.3 = 13.2
History 4 A 4×4 = 16
Fl 4 B+ 4×3.3 = 13.2
Sci 2 B+ 2×3.3 = 6.6
Sci 2 A 2×4 = 8

|Total Credits|20|
|Overall GPA|3.65||

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Not able to share about this applicant exactly but this person had many more B’s. Admittedly, 3 were fresham year, but you would need to almost max them out to know how many.

great example and thanks.

not that many, but more than 1/2 sounds about right.

Yep. And this is one of the problems CC’ers have when we don’t see the whole transcript (and why we have to be working with unweighted GPAs.)

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So true

Similarly, I think we often underestimate (not in this case), how amazing a 3.8+ unweighted actually looks to admissions… and that it probably doesn’t look much different from a 3.9, or even a 3.95. 4.0’s are 4.0’s - different IMO.

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Upward trend?

Boy or girl? Class rank?

Would prefer the student post their own chance me type post and can then choose to share what they want to share.

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I disagree, for the majority of schools in my area, public and magnet, the kids in the middle of the pack, ie near the middle of the class, commonly have 3.8uw or even 3.9uw, though they haven’t taken very many weighted classes so their weighted can be 4.2 and that puts them right at their school’s median. These schools give well over 3/4 of kids As, and anything over 89.5 is an A.
The privates are not quite as skewed and have a few harder classes with mean grades B+ but there are definitely a large amount of kids with 3.9 uw that are outside the top25%(but all would be easily in the top half). 3.65 uw has to be put in context of the HS (and your guess was top25% for your student), or it is not helpful for chancing. That could easily be bottom half at many schools I know.

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Not sure, when 80.6% of Class of 2022 had an A average (A+/A/A-).

There also can be quite a bit of difference in how schools recalculate GPA (if they do). Then, at some schools a certain number of Bs puts one in the deny pile straight off the bat (even at some schools that say they are ‘holistic’).

Grade Inflation in U.S. High Schools

Grade inflation in U.S. high schools

Grade Inflation in U.S. High Schools, 1966-2022, “American Freshman Survey” from the Higher Education Research Institute at UCLA (1966-2019 and 2022 data)

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3 B’s freshman year
almost all the AP’s senior year

so kind of but not the strongest one

not that drastic from my experience, but i get your point.

I am the sort of person that likes to just watch the last 10 minutes of home remodeling and cooking shows for the “big reveal”.

With that in mind when are you going to share the results so I know when to check back in?

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Please behave like adults and professionals. This petty back and forth is ridiculous. Another such post will result in the thread being set to slow mode.

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