<p>Reading the posts about Hartt and I have a question…I got the impression (could be wrong) that Hartt might be a bit easier to get into than other BFA programs. But if only 11 freshmen were admitted how is this possible? Seems like it would be one of the most difficult to get in to?</p>
<p>Hartt is a highly selective program…I would not say it is easier to get into</p>
<p>Basically, none of the auditioned programs that you see regularly mentioned here are easy to get into.</p>
<p>Since they only take 11 Freshman does that make it the most selective school in the country?</p>
<p>Well, no. There a couple of things going on here. First, do you know they only took 11 people or did only 11 people choose to attend? Second, there are smaller programs believe it or not. Third, this is not one of those schools on everyone’s list thus they have less auditioners than some changing the ratio when you are figuring out selectivity. And finally, it’s also a very different talent pool than would probably be auditioning for a top-tier program. That’s true of every regional or not tippy-top school. </p>
<p>Still, when your talking about such small programs chances are never good.</p>
<p>When push comes to shove schools with admit rates of 2% - 15% are all VERY selective. Are schools with a 2% admit rate that pull from a national pool statistically more selective than schools with a 15% admit rate that pull from a smaller national or more regional pool… sure… but, statistics have nothing to do with the admissions results of an individual applicant. </p>
<p>No auditioned program can be considered a safety. The only true safety is an academic and financial safety without an audition requirement for admission. </p>
<p>So, unless a student would prefer to take a gap year (which is a viable choice for some), all applicants need to find a range of schools where they think they could be competitive and would be happy to attend. This list should include at least one or two non-auditioned academic and financial safeties. A student can always choose not to attend, but choices in April are always good to have. </p>
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<p>Thank you KatMT…I am trying to help my D cut down her list of schools and if Hartt only admitted 11 Freshman last year I was thinking this may be a good one to exclude. I appreciate your help.</p>
<p>My guess is that Hartt admitted more than 11 to yield a class of 11. Most schools admit more than they intend to enroll. Admitted students decide to go elsewhere, and schools that want to yield a certain # will often admit a larger number to make their yield.</p>
<p>There are only a few schools that admit the number they intend to enroll and then quickly go to the waitlist if they all do not choose to attend.</p>
<p>So if I understand what you are saying, they admitted possibly 80 but only 11 accepted or they admitted 80 and only wanted a class of 11 so they rescinded their acceptances?</p>
<p>They usually have a target number and a pretty good idea of how many admits will get them that number of acceptances. They do this every year.</p>
<p>With kids applying to so many schools plenty of them will have more than one choice. This is not unique to Hartt, though. Most schools take more than end up in the Freshman class since a student with 4 acceptances can only go to one school.</p>
<p>Schools don’t rescind acceptances.</p>
<p>bisouu - Hartt is part of the University of Hartford. You need to be accepted by both Hartt and the University. The University is somewhat less selective, and maybe this is what you have come across in your research. But getting into the conservatory? Much more selective.</p>
<p>“So if I understand what you are saying, they admitted possibly 80 but only 11 accepted or they admitted 80 and only wanted a class of 11 so they rescinded their acceptances?”</p>
<p>Yes to the first, no to the second. although 80 admitted to yield 11 is not as likely… </p>
<p>most schools gamble… they know they want a class of a certain size, let’s say 10 - 12, for example… they also know that a certain number of students that they accept will choose to go elsewhere, and have data from past admissions cycles that give them a sense of what will be their likely yield percentage from the number accepted. So, let’s say they generally have about a 50% yield rate and want no more than a class of 12. They will admit 24 to try to yield that 12. Some years they may end up under their target number, and may go to a waitlist… other years they may be over their target number and will make accommodations for a larger class, and possibly adjust their acceptance numbers the following year to try to balance out the overall numbers in their program.</p>
<p>So a yield of 11 seems REALLY selective…Some of the top schools on here seem to take more than 11 don’t they? I was just shocked at the 11 number.</p>
<p>Well I don’t know much about this particular school but I would assume that the number correlates really with the amount of students the school itself is able to take in merely because that’s what their program can accommodate due to many different factors (one,maybe # of faculty). The low number that they can only take in makes it selective number-wise, but then inevitably makes it selective talent-wise as well.</p>
<p>CMU admits very tiny numbers to its Acting program – fewer than Hartt. Purchase accepts more (its yield is 20 or so)…but the huge number of applicants to Purchase (because of the program’s reputation, relatively low cost and proximity to NYC) sends its selectivity sky-high.</p>
<p>Bisou selectivity is about how many the school accepts but it is also about how many audition. KatMT, who is a college rep, is suggesting Hartt probably accepts 24 to get 11 so let’s use that as an example. If a school has 900 kids audition for 24 spots, it is significantly more selective than a school that has 400 audition for 24 spots. Your chances are higher at the school that auditions 400.
I too have been trying to find a slightly less selective school for my D. I don’t know about Hartt’s numbers though. Maybe someone will weigh in or you could contact the school and ask.</p>
<p>Is there an existing thread that gives an estimate of numbers accepted based on last years results? i.e. Hartt 11, Ithaca ____</p>
<p>I do not think there is a thread for this year’s freshmen but there is one for last year’s. However, this is not a list of how many students were admitted to each program, rather how many freshman are in each class.</p>
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Except Point Park.</p>