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<p>Thx Sarthak for the reply.
I PMed lin about the question.
And unfortunately I didn’t apply for Poly.
I have a phone interview for UST in couple days time so I asked for an extension to CUHK yesterday…(the deadline’s until the 15th so…)</p>

<p>Oh good! Best of Luck for the UST interview and if you do decide to go then i’ll c u on campus :slight_smile:
btw cant tell from your profile name, where you from ?
Oh and you do know about the facebook group i guess, so join it if you want further info on UST!</p>

<p>Sarthak19118: I was not religiously defending CUHK. I just feel that the school is kinda underrated at this thread. I think that some people may still be interested in CUHK, and that I should help. (Well, I am far from an expert but at least I visited CUHK’s campus, attended all three unis’ information seminars, and have friends in CUHK and UST.)</p>

<p>UST is no doubt a top-notch university. I had no intention to say that CUHK is better in my last thread. It’s just CUHK is a better one for me.</p>

<p>lin4621: Hey don’t worry about what you said/meant or your opinion is mate! I did not mean to offend you at all, all i meant by saying “religiously defend” was that you obviously have done your research on CUHK and know more about it than me! No sarcasm was involved… If it helps, you do exactly what I do, I religiously defend HKUST like you defend CUHK :slight_smile: One of the reasons why HKUST’s global reputation is important for me is because I want do my postgrad from somewhere in US or UK maybe, and I dont know why exactly, but most of the reps of US and UK universities that I have met know about HKUST the most and very little about Hk Poly U and CUHK !! All of them actually said HKUST’s engineering programs are one of the best in Asia…
So what program you planning to do at CUHK ?</p>

<p>What weight do you think they uni you choose really has on your postgrad? Like if I have amazing grades and ECs from a uni that’s not in the top 100, worked hard on an internship, would it really even matter if I did it at a secondary school? Just wondering :D</p>

<p>Sarthak19118: I’m Korean. I graduated from a Korean High school. Thanks on the info btw.</p>

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<li> CUHK’s Hotel & Tourism Management was of top priority for me when I was first applying. But the fact that many people only know, apply for and acknowledge HKU and HKUST makes me stop and think…</li>
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<p>I’m sure that CUHK is also a top university but I wonder why so many ppl only know, apply for and acknowledge only HKU and HKUST. In many of the conversations of HK’s universities’ applicants (Here in the CC as well as all the applicants I have spoken with) and the ppl in Korea that’s just what happens. Is it just a lack of knowledge or is it just reality that CUHK is a second choice compared to HKU and HKUST?</p>

<p>@kyubaek-Most of us on this thread are intls…I too considered CUHK but it is too “chinese oriented” for my liking…
CUHK is up there in the rankings with the best in HK but its Chinese oriented curriculum discourage many intls from applying…
I have heard from my frnds in HK that the locals rate CUHK really high ,only just below HKU,and on par with HKUST
End of the Day.it comes down to what you want and which university you will feel comfortable in…All three are top notch and you cant go wrong with any of them…
Hope this helps</p>

<p>@Rebecca-the place where you study undergrad has a huge impact on getting admission for Post grad especially if you are aiming to get into Top universities…
Most of all you need a first class/second class honours degree too if you want to get into the best!!</p>

<p>Anand78: What do you mean by chinese oriented?? Do you mean less international involvement in the school itself??</p>

<p>I like how every time I start to have doubts about HK, I come here, and I get excited all over again! haha!</p>

<p>just got accepted to ucsd for biophyiscs, and uc irvine for chemical eng (ehhh). still waiting on ucla… but even then, i’m pretty set on hk.</p>

<p>YAY hkust!</p>

<p>lin4621,</p>

<p>To answer your question about the rent earlier, it’d be very difficult to find anything livable for 2000 HKD a month, unless you are eligible for government subsidized housing! </p>

<p>FYI, HK is known for running one of the world’s most successful subsized housing system in the world. It’s nothing like the "projects’ in the US which are often ghettos.</p>

<p>Anyway, if that’s the kind of budget you are on, I guess you made a good choice in picking CUHK. The rent around HKU is very expensive; my friend’s rent for one bed-room in Happy Valley was 30,000 HKD a month, if I remember correctly.</p>

<p>The locals rate CUHK second to HKU. In reality, CUHK and HKUST are pretty different. HKUST builds its strength around business and engineering. CUHK is more comprehensive and also offers law/medicine, the most respected professions in HK. I think their BBA programs are pretty comparable but HKUST offers global business. HKUST is much more aggressive to become global while CUHK seems to be less concerned about that. While CUHK gives generous scholarships to Mainlanders, it’s less aggresive in enrolling internationals to its prized programs. I suspect CUHK feels a stronger mission for giving the priority to the locals/Chinese.</p>

<p>The reason why CUHK is less mentioned than HKUST on CC is that most of you are going to study business and engineering; they happen to be the selling point for HKUST. CUHK doesn’t offer “global business” and it’s weaker than HKUST in engineering; CUHK is more well-rounded and offers liberal arts, journalism, education, social sciences to undergrads but they are not popular among the CCers. Also, its most prized programs, law and medicine, probably give very limited spots to internationals.</p>

<p>Area in hectares:
HKUST: 60
HKU: 16 (main) + 10 (Kadorrie Agricultural Research Center) = 26
CUHK: 134</p>

<p>CUHK is pretty big; it’s even larger than many mid-size universities in the US.</p>

<p>@Kyubaek-yes,they dont actively recruit intls as such and diversity within the student body will be lesser than HKU and HKUST…
CUHK also follows the chinese pattern of education whereas HKU and HKUSt follow western patterns.
Sam lee above has stated everything that needs to be known…It comes down to what you are looking for and will be most comfortable in…All three unis are top notch…
Good luck
Let us know what you decide…:)…Cheers!!!</p>

<p>Anand78, Sam Lee : Thanks everyone for such valuable information. It seems that I’ll have to think about it for quite some time. I actually go to Waseda in couple days time for the first semester (which will end before any schools in HK starts)… Plus I’ve asked for an extension at CUHK so if it is granted, I might think about other options. If not, then I’ll probably go with CUHK. Either option is OK for me but still can’t make up my mind…My major is going to be business so I better keep up with the constant upcoming info. at CC and make my choice later when all the results come out.</p>

<p>I’m actually thinking about MBA at Lausanne and Ph.D at Cornell afterwards so int’l variety might not be such a big problem if I come to think about it. Plus learning chinese might become much easier with so many locals around… All these thoughts are making me so indecisive…</p>

<p>Kyubaek90: Oh thats good! I know a lot of people form Korea, most of them studying with me currently… CUHK is def a good Uni, but as I said before, th Global reputation is what matters for us Internationals, and only HKU and HKUST have a decent one… however, the reasons that you have given in your last post about importance of diversity and opp to learn mandarin make sense to me, thus, I think CUHK might be good for you… if you need me to convince you to go to HKUST then pls do let me knw, cause if you ask others on this thread, that is def my genre !! lol</p>

<p>rebecca: As per my counsellor, till you get a good GPA and recommendations from your undergrad Uni, it doesnt really matter which one it is, that is unless it is not like Rank 350 or something!! Till top 50 every University is considered to be decent … Of course the top ones look better on your CV, but Unis in Top50 do not harm, in any way, your chances of making it to a good school for postgrad… </p>

<p>All: Received a generous 22,500$ scholarship from Kettering, which is now Rank2 in US Rankings for Mechanical Engineering at Undergraduate level… but you will be happy to know that could not lure me (enough) to change my decision about HKUST!!
quoting phoenix_ice: “Yay HKUST” !!</p>

<p>Sarthak19118: You really do love UST don’t you haha (no offense intended) it’s a good thing, to be firm about your decisions… Mine isn’t going too well… Anyways congrats on your scholarship (despite the fact you’re not going to go…)</p>

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<li>Darn… My extension request has been turned down… It seems I have to make the payment afterall…</li>
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<p>kyubaek90: haha… of course I do! (none taken)
tell you what if you are having a hrd time making a decision, i’ll tell you what I did when in your situation, might help you:

  1. Write down all your options/ Universities that you have admission offers from
  2. Make a excell table of things that affect your choosing a Uni, like dist from home, scholarship, future job opportunities, male/female ration (lol) etc.
  3. Give each of the Uni on your list a score out of 4, with 4 being a maximum and 1 being the lowest, for each column/criterion that is…
  4. Calculate the total score and rank your Universities accordingly…
  5. Now there are some qualitative things that you won;t be able to assign values to, like maybe location of campus or housing or food, anything… Consider these qualitative points to reorder your Universities in the Rankings list
  6. You have a decision, stick to it and let people try to dissuade you so that you can consider their argument and then try and talk them out of their own arguments, if you can do so, then you have a Perfectly Definite decision! If you cant do so, no need to worry, it just means you arnt a very skilled orator, but you still have a good ranking for your University choice!</p>

<p>Hope this helps!</p>

<p>Sarthak19118: Thanks for your advice. I tried it out and it seems to be like this HKU>CUHK=HKUST. CUHK could have got more points but the fact that I have to do 4 years deducted some points out. The suggestion is real helpful indeed but my indecisiveness keeps on lingering… That’s just me I guess… Thanks anyway for the advice.</p>

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<li>BTW I looked at the rankings today and found they weren’t as accurate as I thought it would be. Some schools like Yonsei and Korea are so low compared to the rankings of Seoul Nat’l. In reality the students at all three of the schools are pretty much of similar calibre.</li>
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<p>Some of you alleged that “CUHK follows Chinese pattern while HKU/HKUST follow western pattern”. I am really not sure where that came from.</p>

<p>The collegiate system of CUHK looks pretty British to me. I don’t think you’d find that in China. The credit unit system with 60 credits in your major, 15-20 credits in general education, and 123 credits to graduate in 4 years, and GPA…etc. looks very US.</p>

<p>To fulfill licensing requirements in civil engineering, law, and medicine, the curriculum got to be comparable to HKU in at least those areas and has always been kinda British. </p>

<p>The classification of bachelor - first honor, 2nd honor…is again, kinda British.</p>

<p>The only thing that makes it look more Chinese is that more courses are taught in Chinese but I suspect they are mostly in departments like Chinese literature…etc. Enough courses are taught in English for internationals to take.</p>