How are women "oppressed" by men?

<p>Blair - No, I didn’t receive my facts from that guy. Women do account for more than 80% of consumer purchases. I learned this in Microecon class, but a quick google search confirms it: [Marketing</a> to women | Hello, girls | The Economist](<a href=“http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13278440]Marketing”>Hello, girls)</p>

<p>We may not make the dough, but we sure know how to spend it :wink:
is there a perfectly reasonable explanation for this? sure, women are generally responsible for a lot of household decisions, naturally how the money is spent is one of them. But I didn’t pull that statistic out of my ass, it’s the truth.</p>

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<p>All I got from this is that you’re a woman who’s emotional.</p>

<p>Here’s another link about spending between the sexes:</p>

<p>[Men’s</a> and Women’s Shopping Habits - How does spending differ for men vs women? | Mint.com Blog | Personal Finance News & Advice](<a href=“http://www.mint.com/blog/finance-core/boys-gone-shopping-wild/]Men’s”>Men's and Women's Shopping Habits - How does spending differ for men vs women?)</p>

<p>Darko, there’s no reason to be rude about things. I’ve tried being polite. Why can’t you do the same?</p>

<p>I think women spend a lot, but they also make a good portion of money, too! :)</p>

<p>I’m being polite in a way so that you realize you’re wrong.</p>

<p>Wrong about what? I have my opinions and you have yours. I wasn’t the one making illogical statements earlier, either.</p>

<p>You’re making opinions about the subject. If all we did was make opinions there wouldn’t be a point in debate? I tried to use logic and you resorted to your motherly empathy.</p>

<p>Empathy? How?</p>

<p>I didn’t notice any logic in one post of yours.</p>

<p>Has anyone even considered that maybe women spend more money than men because they feel significantly more pressure to conform to society’s idea of the “ideal woman”? Since most people derive women’s worth from their appearances rather than their accomplishments or intelligence, is it that surprising that they make more effort and spend more money to be accepted in the only way they feel they can be “powerful”–by maximizing their sex appeal?</p>

<p>If that’s not logical, I don’t know what is.</p>

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That’s because you’re a woman. Ok I’ll stop, but I had valid points and you pretty much ignored them.</p>

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<p>That’s not logical that’s speculating.</p>

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I doubt there’s a single non-metrosexual guy on the planet who would respect a woman more for having five pairs of shoes rather than one, or designer clothes rather than imitation knock-offs.</p>

<p>When I see a woman (or a man) in expensive clothing, my opinion of them, if anything, goes down.</p>

<p>So are:</p>

<p>men oppressed because women spend more?
women oppressed because men spend more?
men oppressed because men spend more? or
women oppressed because women spend more?</p>

<p>And how does spending money have anything to do with oppression in the first place?</p>

<p>And I’ve had quite a few teachers give me extra subjective points over girls who are smarter than me, and sometimes those teachers are female. So, yes, sexism is alive and well, although I don’t think those teachers are being sexist consciously.</p>

<p>Darko, what were the valid points?</p>

<p>If you repeat them in a non-insulting manner, I will pay attention. :)</p>

<p>We should all just hold hands and make love.</p>

<p>Women are not oppressed.</p>

<p>Okay, I’m listening.</p>

<p>Why do you think that women are not oppressed?</p>

<p>Because there is no difference in the quality of lives between men and women. There is a difference in the workplace, however slight, but that doesn’t equate to a harder lifestyle, especially considering many women are married and share income with a significant other. </p>

<p>In the end it all evens out and things are equal.</p>

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but i’m going to predict that you want (or at least idealize) women who are conventionally “hot.” guess what–those women (the victoria’s secret models, the playboy bunnies, the porn stars who have been adopted as “positive” role models by mainstream culture) buy into a culture that tells us that in order to be accepted, we need to do certain things, including buying clothes that are flattering (and often expensive), getting our hair done, waxing, having the perfect body, wearing the right makeup, etc. and even if YOU specifically are just so saintly that you don’t value those things, the majority of society does, and ALL women are aware of it.</p>

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<p>Women are the ones who CREATE this culture. Women are the ones who read fashion magazines and be plastic to attract guys.</p>

<p>What is your point? That women oppress women?</p>

<p>The quality of life between a man and a woman is different, in my opinion, but I understand what you’re saying.</p>

<p>Single women (and married women) may have a harder lifestyle, as well as those that are possibly “not as attractive.” Men usually receive more bonuses, higher income, and generally, more opportunities, which can translate into a tougher time for women (in the workplace, at least).</p>

<p>I also think, like a lot of men, that women should be eligible for the draft.</p>